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M Club wrote:besides, what five plays are you talking about?

You just had to ask, didn't you? :roll:

It was somewhat entertaining when Toolio did it.

Oregon was 5 plays away from not being in the MNC game.

Auburn is about 2 plays away from not being in the Trinket Bowl.

Stanford is less that 5 plays away from the Marbles.

tOSU is 5 plays or less from a shot.

Should we keep going?

TheJON wrote: So which game did we not have a GREAT chance at the end of winning? We were 5 plays away. 5 plays is not close???

no, the insight bowl is not close.

Michigan won 3 games that year that they had absolutely no business winning or got piss ass lucky and the other team choked. The Iowa game is a prime example. Iowa dominates the entire game and Michigan somehow pulled out a giant fluke win thanks to some horrible mistakes by Iowa and some TERRIBLE calls by the refs- most notably Dave Witvoet (Michigan native). Wasn't the 2005 Penn State game the one with the mysterious extra second on the clock? I'm also fairly certain you scored late to beat MSU, in a game that (if memory serves me correctly), Michigan was pretty well outplayed.

3 of your 7 wins were by 3 points or less. 2010 Iowa did not have a single game with with a victory of that slim of margin, and only 2 games did we win by less than 21 points.

of course, caveats. michigan was just as close, if we can call five losses close. michigan was so lucky iowa "blew" that 14-10 lead they had and, oh ja, it took a late iowa field goal to send it into overtime. there were actually two mysterious seconds added in the penn state game: one carr argued to have put on and another paterno argued for. and as for michigan state, i didn't realize winning a tough road game was an indictment against a team, especially since it only went to overtime because the refs ruled an incomplete pass a fumble that msu returned for the tying td.

Also, didn't Michigan score late to cut it to 4 against Ohio State in that game, or am I incorrect with that? I was thinking Michigan never really had a chance late to win that one. And the Alamo Bowl........you needed a Hail Mary.

michigan had a two-score lead late in the game before going to the jim herrmann hurry-up-and-beat-us defense he designed after chuck woodson graduated. and didn't need a hail mary against nebraska as much as we could have used a slow white guy willing to give the ball to the black track star running alongside him:

no, the insight bowl is not close.

Oh christ on a stick...........I give up.

You're right, we were like 11 billion plays away. We lost by 50 points in every game, unlike the other 7-5 teams throughout the years that can at least keep games close. What a horrible team........outplaying Top 10 teams for all or a majority of the game. Worst team ever? Discuss.

michigan was so lucky iowa "blew" that 14-10 lead they had and, oh ja, it took a late iowa field goal to send it into overtime.

We spent the entire game in Michigan territory but had a missed FG or 2 and a turnover or 2 in the red zone. The pathetic part of that game is it NEVER should have even been close but we pretty much fucked ourselves in the ass.......sorta like we did in a few games this year. Shit happens. That season we weren't that good- though we did improve throughout the year. Michigan brought their refs to Iowa City and then Florida brought their refs to the bowl game. And, before you call me a whiny bitch- the Outback Bowl refs were actually reprimanded and suspended by the CUSA conference and their head of officials or whatever the fuck they call themselves admitted there were MANY poor calls against Iowa.

and didn't need a hail mary against nebraska as much as we could have used a slow white guy willing to give the ball to the black track star running alongside him:

Ok, now I remember that game. Wasn't it the "battle of teams that didn't want to be there"? I remember watching it in my hotel in Tampa and some drunk Iowa fan ran down the hall yelling something about how Michigan got what they deserved today for cheating against Iowa. Drunk or not, he did have a point! :D

TheJON wrote:

You have nothing to back up your suppositions other than some corn-fed gut feeling. The Badgers beat you on your own field and since that day Wisconsin has gotten better and Iowa has continued their downward spiral. But go on telling yourself that Iowa is one of the elite teams this year that just got a few bad breaks. Idiot.

I got an idea. You stop making up what I say in just one of your posts.

I didn’t make up a damn thing. You claimed that if Wisconsin and Iowa played 12 times they’d each win 6 times. Nothing I’ve seen from either team backs that up.

Oh, and Iowa sucks poopy butt.

Oh christ on a stick...........I give up.

Just repeat this, over and over again. Because in this thread, you really should.

Iowa is what they are, a 7-5 team. Like I posted before, 6 plays were different last year and Charlie Weis is still the head coach for Notre Dame after playing in the NC game. They had 4th quarter leads against UCONN, Michigan and Stanford. They had late turnovers against Navy and Pittsburgh when they had the ball in a position to drive the field and tie or win the game. They had a shot to tie USC fall incomplete because a WR slipped.

Sure is a lot of “if” statements, isn’t there?

Good teams find ways to win. Average teams find ways to lose. Iowa is an average team this year.

You saw Michigan once in 2005, so they weren’t as good as Iowa this year? What if a guy went to the 2005 UofM/PSU game and the 2010 Iowa/Minnesota game?

JON, your team was average this year when they should have been better. Happens to everyone. ND came off a year where they should have won the national championship in 1993, only to go 6-5-1 in 1994. All of those losses were close, except to Boston College.

One of the more impressive celebrations at Toomer's:



Yeah, championship games are a joke.