Props to Indiana, workers no longer hostage to dues

[smackaholic]

I did do a bit of research. I was surprised that the average home price was that high. I then looked at median home price, which, as with income is a better way of looking at it.

Median numbers give a better idea of what you would consider "normal" simply because those on the high end with their 35 million dollar incomes and 25 million dollar homes, skew the numbers quite badly.

The numbers I found for median home price was around 165K, if I remember correctly. The median family income was 51K.

Compare this to your numbers of 10K and 4K and sure, home prices are up, but, not as much as your numbers indicated. And, as I said earlier, if you factor in the substantial increase in home size, you'll likely find that prices really haven't changed that much.

I used median family income rather than median personal income since this is the number that matters more when it comes to things like buying houses. The bank will loan more to a couple that works with a combined income of 100K than they will loan to a single person making 55K, even though his personal income is higher than theirs.

So, would you like to tell me what part of that is bullshit or just go back to the tried and true "you're a fukking moron" card that brain dead idiots are so fond of when they have little else?

[smackaholic]

Went back and looked at 88's charts again.

It did not say individual median income was 4k ('55) and 32K (today).

It said joint income, aka family income 4K ('55) and in the next column, that income in today's dollars. family median income is actually up over this period (51K).

Kind of interesting when the topic of income being flat or even dropping over the last 30 years comes up, the dems like to say it's because the unions have been weakened and the rich guys are hogging all the gains. No one seems to want to bring up a factor which should be painfully obvious. When the number of adults in the work force as a percentage of the total went up greatly, economics 101 says that average income will go down.

So, if you want 1965 income levels, everybody should just tell their OL's to get back in the kitchen and make them a fukkin' sammich.

[Mace]

I was one of the "freeloaders" who "benefitted" from having a public union job for over 30 years but never joined the union. The AFSCME union donated tons of money to political candidates that I'd never vote for, so I long ago decided that none of that money would be mine. One year the head of the State union was also convicted of stealing over $50k from the union, none of which was my money. I chose to spend my money for golf clubs and beer instead of feeding the fat cats of the union, and decided that was a fair trade, even though the union stewards would have let me swing if I'd ever fucked up. I never gave them that opportunity.

Derron: What infield conditioner do you sell?

[smackaholic]

you mean you actually kept your job by being a valued employee?

that's crazy talk!!

[dingus]

Derron: What infield conditioner do you sell?

Seriously, I'd like to know.

[Mace]

Derron: What infield conditioner do you sell?

Seriously, I'd like to know.

So would I.

[Derron]

It is our private label, Players Choice. We buy in bulk out of mines in Utah, bring it in and color it, or sometimes buy it colored and repackage in 50# bags or super sacks and then sell to the industry in Oregon, WA, ID and MT and BC and No Cal. We also have Pros Choice but it is expensive as hell by the time we get it already bagged. Ours is a vitrified clay product and the Pros choice is a calcined clay product.

Also have mound clays, mound and home plate kits, professional grade rakes, brooms,shovels,tampers, nail drags, base plugs, water movement items, field tarps, chalking machines and other field associated products.

I can PM you the website if interested.

Spring training starts soon..I saw the Kansas Jayhawks have a web cam on their baseball field and they were out working out the other day.

[Mace]

I'd be interested in your website, Derron. Shoot me a PM. Thanks.

[Goober McTuber]

Went back and looked at 88's charts again.

It did not say individual median income was 4k ('55) and 32K (today).

It said joint income, aka family income 4K ('55) and in the next column, that income in today's dollars. family median income is actually up over this period (51K).

Gee, do you suppose that might be because cars and houses cost a lot more these days, necessitating a second income?