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Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:32 pm
by Dinsdale
Tru, you haven't heard?
Science is no longer based on gathering data and analyzing it -- it's a democracy.
So what if there's more dangling chads than 50 Floridas, it's been put to a vote -- astrophysics no longer is a factor.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:16 pm
by Bizzarofelice
Dinsdale wrote:Tru, you haven't heard?
Science is no longer based on gathering data and analyzing it -- it's a democracy.
sooooooooo dumb
Truman wrote:Sorry the Crichton reference escaped you
yeah. people are always dropping Michael Chricton references and hi-fivin'. He's the subject of a hundred memes only to be outdone by Tom Clancy youtube videos and #thatssoGrisham hashtags.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:30 am
by Truman
Bizzarofelice wrote:Truman wrote:Sorry the Crichton reference escaped you
yeah. people are always dropping Michael Chricton references and hi-fivin'.
Sure they do. Right after you get rolled in an argument defending your stupidity.
You either don't read much... Or can't.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:35 am
by Bizzarofelice
Truman wrote:Right after you get rolled in an argument
never happened. science is peer reviewed. and climate change has been peer reviewed. and again what is the percentage of scientists who believe it?
I'm on the side of the really big number.
I'm on the side of the really smart guys.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:40 am
by Truman
Michael Crichton wrote:Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
Truman wrote:You either don't read much... Or can't.
Thanks for proving my point.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:56 am
by Bizzarofelice
I don't read Michael C. Nor do I read J. K. Rowling or Tom Clancy or John Grisham or Stephanie Meyer. An educated person would not brag about their epic Michael Chrichton skillz.
and sorry about dropping the ball on Ezekiel Elliot. Still working on Antar Thompson.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:02 am
by Truman
You won’t find it in a book, Bace. It’s an excerpt from a speech he gave at Caltech in 2003. Heck, you wouldn’t have had to read anything. You could’ve just sat there and listened, and maybe even learned something. But you don’t do that very well either.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:24 pm
by Dinsdale
Bizzarofelice wrote:science is peer reviewed. and climate change has been peer reviewed.
No, it hasn't.
Phil Jones wrote:K and I will keep them out somehow-even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:31 pm
by Mace
Wasn't there a "consensus" at one time that the earth was flat and that the Sun revolved around the earth? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:37 pm
by Dinsdale
Mace wrote:Wasn't there a "consensus" at one time that the earth was flat and that the Sun revolved around the earth? Yeah, that's what I thought.
And anyone who even suggested otherwise was castigated, often having their livlihood taken from them. How dare they step to a huge ruling body that didn't actually produce anything tangible, and the only thing they did produce was something that there was no demand for, for which they were handsomely rewarded off the backs of others, and brutal to anyone who gave even the hint of a threat to their entrenched power structure that could demand any fee they wanted from the masses.
Sounds familiar, eh?
Hence the appropriate term for Warmists -- the "Flat Earthers."
Re: Another Old Beat's Weather Thread...
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:42 pm
by smackaholic
Mace wrote:Wasn't there a "consensus" at one time that the earth was flat and that the Sun revolved around the earth? Yeah, that's what I thought.
yup, right smack in the middle of the last bit of global warming.