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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 12:35 pm
by tough love
Bull_Shit is what Bulll_Shit does.

Given the chance; The Harpers would put on a good show (which is more than we've gotten in awhile) simply because they have something to prove to the many naysayers and poli-fearmongers of Canada.

Still; given the embarrassingly fragile state of your guys with their hands caught in the candy jar thang, we the people stand to be the rare winners in one aspect of this latest poli_crapulation.
As long as your cockroaches of choice have the inquiries public spotlights illumination upon 'em, they are less likely to be filling the fat pockets of their true interests.

Poli_Canada is living on win win time. :)



VOTE ALLIANCE....They Deserve The Chance To Prove You Wrong.

Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:03 pm
by fix
Great column in the Toronto Star

Quid pro quo Hap.. ;)
Minority deal-making not a big surprise

Thomas S. Axworthy says by definition, a minority government has to balance interests


Stephen Harper has blasted the Liberal-NDP agreement to add $4.6 billion in social spending to the budget as "a deal with the devil." Nothing the Liberals can say about Harper's philosophy condemns him more than his own words.

On substance, while keeping the budget balanced, the new deal is excellent for cities as it invests $1.6 billion into affordable housing (a glaring omission in the 2005 budget as first presented) and allocates an additional cent of the gas tax towards public transit. Aboriginal leaders have especially been waiting for resources to flow to housing, and now this will happen.

The recent International Policy Review distressed many observers by not committing to a time frame to achieve Lester Pearson's goal of 0.7 per cent of GDP for development and now an additional $500 million is committed to this goal, too. For Liberals, the February budget was already good; now it is much improved.

If this is the work of Satan, it is Milton's Paradise Regained rather than Paradise Lost. Why the extreme reaction from Harper?

Before becoming leader of his party, Harper was a bona fide intellectual of the New Right and he knows that his neo-conservative economic philosophy is a truly radical force that has little to do with the traditional conservatism of Sir John A. Macdonald, William Davis or Robert Stanfield.

The strength of conservatism is that it places a priority on tradition and practical experience. In his classic essay Canadian Conservatism Now, historian W.L. Morton lauded Edmund Burke's view that society is an organic partnership between the generations, so "authority and tradition, then, are cornerstones of conservative belief."

But the New Right is anything but traditional: Harper told a Charlottetown audience in 2001, while endorsing the view of Austrian economist Joseph Schumpeter about the "creative destruction" potential of capitalism, that "sometimes old structures do need to be demolished in order that new ones can be erected."

The main objective of government, then, in the words of F.A. Hayek, the intellectual godfather of the New Right, is not to "produce any particular service or product to be consumed by the citizens, but rather to see that the mechanism which regulates the production of goods and services is kept in working order."

Sir John A. used the state to build Canada; the New Right wants the state only to be a night watchman for the market system.

On process, Harper's complaints about the deal as "disgraceful" are simply nonsensical. By definition, a minority government has to balance interests, accommodate the other parties and shift with the winds.

The February 2005 budget was skilfully designed to attract Conservative support: Harper withdrew that support when his polls improved — consequently Prime Minister Paul Martin is working with the NDP.

Every minority government has to compromise. The issue is with whom and for what? A minority government wheels and deals — like Captain Renault in Casablanca, who discovers gambling at Rick's Place, "I'm shocked, shocked ..."

The key to the next election are the old Progressive Conservatives of Ontario. They are fiscal conservatives and social moderates. That is Martin, too.

In taking over the Conservative party Harper dropped the "Progressive" adjective. With his new budget deal, Martin can fairly claim ownership of that title.

Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:38 pm
by tough love
Who in poli-hell is Thomas S. Axworthy, and why is he telling Canadians to vote for the NDP?

Lloyd's gonna be pissed.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:30 am
by fix
tough love wrote:Who in poli-hell is Thomas S. Axworthy, and why is he telling Canadians to vote for the NDP?

Lloyd's gonna be pissed.
You don't recognise the name of one of your own home town's finest?

Tsk tsk tl..


Thomas S. Axworthy, O.C., Ph.D.
Chairman, Centre for the Study of Democracy, Queen's University

Dr. Axworthy is Executive Director of Historica a Toronto-based charitable organization with the mission to foster the enhancement of Canadianism.. Born and raised in Winnipeg, he attended the University of Winnipeg (B.A.). He received his M.A. and Ph.D. from Queen's University in 1970 and 1979 respectively and was a visiting student at Nuffield College, Oxford University, in 1972-73.


From 1991 to 2003, he was an Adjunct Lecturer at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, and he continues to teach as part of their overseas executive program. Dr. Axworthy is an Adjunct Lecturer at the School of Policy Studies, Queen's University, where he has recently become Chairman of the Centre for the Study of Democracy. Since 2001, he has served as Chairman of the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada. In recognition of his outstanding achievement and service in the field of history and heritage, Dr. Axworthy was recently made an Officer of the Order of Canada.

From 1981 to 1984, Dr. Axworthy was Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister of Canada, the Right Honourable Pierre Trudeau.
Dr. Axworthy is also the author and editor of several books and numerous articles, including Our American Cousins: The United States Through Canadian Eyes (Toronto: James Lorimer & Co., 1987), Marching to a Different Drummer: An Essay on the Liberals and Conservatives in Convention (Toronto: Stoddart, 1988), Towards a Just Society: The Trudeau Years (Markham: Penguin Books, 1990) and Searching for the New Liberalism: Perspectives, Policies, Prospects (Oakville: Mosaic Press, 2003)

Lloyd and him are tight.. tell me you knew?

FYI.. he's not suggesting anyone vote NDP.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:09 am
by tough love
I forgot the :wink:, Professor Google... :P

Last time I looked, this paticular 'lets get together' thang was Laytonsaguys Idea.
If Sparky The Ultra Red is gonna be propping that thang up, he IS telling the country to vote NDP; in that, if Jackasses Idea is so great, who needs Pockets.

Queen Lloyd is seriously not amused.




Vote HARPER......He Never Gets Any Inquiries.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:38 am
by fix
Ethics? What ethics...
April 27, 2005

ETHICS? WHAT ETHICS?

AN OPEN LETTER TO STEPHEN HARPER AND PETER MACKAY

Dear Sirs,

You ceaselessly point your fingers at the Liberal government members in the House of Commons and pontificate about their ethical misdeeds, alleged and real. You demand that they come clean, confess to their malfeasance and accept punishment, long before the Gomery Commission is able to present its findings of fact and recommendations.

Now you want to force the whole country through an early and expensive election because of the ethical failures of the Paul Martin government! But who are you two to talk about ethics and “moral authority?” Are you not staring yourself blind at the speck in the government’s eye, while ignoring — and hoping that no one else would notice either — the beam in your own?

Let’s take a quick look at your own documentable lack of ethics:

You, Peter MacKay, signed an agreement with PC leadership candidate David Orchard at the convention in May 2003, the main plank of which was that you would NOT merge with the Canadian Alliance and that you would uphold the constitution of the PC Party in order to PREVENT a takeover by the Alliance (the PC party had adopted in 1999 a constitutional clause which required that the party would run candidates in all ridings in every federal election,) Your agreement with David Orchard and your signature on it enabled you to become the leader of the party.


After the signing of the deal, you shook hands with Mr. Orchard and said that together the two of you would build up the PC party. Then you promptly broke the agreement and railroaded your party into oblivion, with the relentless prodding and eager co-operation of Stephen Harper and your various political and financial supporters. At no time did you ask for nor did you receive permission from your party to break the agreement with Mr. Orchard and to proceed to do the very opposite; and you only “consulted” us party members through our decision-making bodies WELL AFTER you had signed an agreement with Stephen Harper to liquidate the PC Party which you were constitutionally obligated to defend and uphold. You were helped in this treachery by Stephen Harper whose Canadian Alliance members were urged to join the PC Party merely to vote it out of existence. After thousands did so, you and your assorted allies concocted a phony approval process — with no debate allowed at any level of decision making! — producing approval rates for the merger that are usually found only in dictatorships. This whole process was accurately described by Progressive Conservative senator Lowell Murray as “a coup d’etat.”

After having destroyed your party and utterly breeched your signed agreement with Mr. Orchard — which surely should have given you as a MP, a lawyer and an officer of the court some pause! — you and Stephen Harper have grabbed $70,000 of David Orchard’s campaign funds, funds to which you are not legally entitled. The Conservative Party has held on to these funds for a year and a half, while according to the legal contract Mr. Orchard signed as a leadership candidate he was to have them returned to him in 48 hours! The Conservative Party, under your combined leadership, has in effect stolen Mr. Orchard’s campaign donations, forcing him to take your party to court. You have thus defrauded the 257 donors to the Orchard campaign whose money you have put in your party coffers. Your party has formally conceded that the monies are owed to David Orchard, but is refusing to return them, in a “might makes right” fashion. You have no claim to these funds and you both know it!

Canadians need to know that your party that claims to be the Canadian citizens’ ethical watchdog is led by two dishonest and unethical individuals, who deserve to be called scoundrels.

Canadians need to know how a lawyer can sign a contract that gives him immense benefits, and then proceed to break it as if it never existed. Explain that if you can!

Canadians need to know that David Orchard’s campaign funds will be returned to him without delay, with interest, legal fees, and a huge apology. (Presently your party is paying high legal fees to merely stall on giving Mr. Orchard back his campaign donations. Do your members know that this is how you handle their funds?)

As you wish the next election to be about political ethics, it will most certainly be about your ethics as well. As the saying goes, “What is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander.” It seems that with your immoral and unethical actions, you have cooked your goose, for a long time to come.

Sincerely


Marjaleena Repo
Saskatchewan vice-president
and Management Committee member of the PC Party of Canada, 2002-2003
President, PC Riding Association, Blackstrap, SK, 2000-2002
Senior Advisor for David Orchard in the 2003 leadership race

P.S. To refresh your memory — and to wake up your dormant conscience — MacKay–Orchard agreement, photos of the signing and legal documents regarding Orchard’s funds can be found on davidorchard.com

Marjaleena Repo
201 Elm Street
Saskatoon, SK
S7J 0G8
(306-244-9724
mrepo@sasktel.net
Again.. this version of the ReformedAllianceConservitard party is nothing but a farce.. a front for the Alliance party to hide behind.

Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:13 pm
by tough love
More Poli_ Entertainment:

The Liberanos Poster:

OTTAWA (CP) - The Conservatives want an apology from Immigration Minister Joe Volpe for comparing them to the Ku Klux Klan.

The Opposition party is made up of racists, Volpe said Tuesday, calling members recognizable "notwithstanding that they don't have their cowl and their cape." "The Klan looks like it's still very much alive," the minister added.

Volpe made the comments in response to a magazine graphic in which Liberals are depicted as The Liberanos, a mocking reference to the television Mafia show The Sopranos.

A pair of Conservative MPs - Lee Richardson and Werner Schmidt - were photographed this week pointing to the graphic from the Western Standard magazine.

The graphic depicts Jean Chretien, Paul Martin, Alfonso Gagliano and sponsorship adman Jean Brault, arms-crossed and lined up in a stereotypical mobster group shot.

The shot is labelled 'The Liberanos - Canadian Politics Redefined' in bold, red letters.

Volpe blasted the two Tory MPs for using the graphic as a political prop.

"I think these are a couple of fine, upstanding members of the new Conservative Klan," Volpe said, holding up the picture outside the House of Commons.

Volpe owes his party, and all Canadians, an apology, Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer responded.

"To hear a minister of the Crown make that kind of insinuation about anybody, whether they are his political opponents or not, is reprehensible," Jaffer said in a written statement.

"Volpe is trivializing the hatred, violence, and murder practised by the Klan," he added.

"He has sunk to a new low - one unbefitting a minister of the Crown, and unbefitting a parliamentarian."

Volpe said the graphic is one more example proving that the Conservatives don't understand immigrants, and don't understand "how Canada works."

But the minister's reaction went beyond the pale, said Jaffer.

"It is beyond irresponsible to suggest that any parliamentarian advocates torture and murder of innocent people," he said.

"I hope that Joe Volpe would do the honourable thing as soon as possible, and fully retract and apologize for his remarks," Jaffer said.

"He deals with a ministry that must be seen as above politics, and this type of demagoguery only further undermines his credibility."

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/20 ... 53-cp.html

Marjaleena Repo???
Poli Damage = NIL.
Cunt doesen't even have a Canadian name, so who gives a crap about what the dotty says. :twisted:

Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 10:15 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
PKY

Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 10:51 pm
by tough love
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Come On, stop trying to smack me, and smack me.

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RACK

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:16 am
by fix
tough love wrote:
Marjaleena Repo???
Poli Damage = NIL.
Cunt doesen't even have a Canadian name, so who gives a crap about what the dotty says. :twisted:
:roll:

Sad, I never thought of you as being a racist before.
Then again, I never thought you'd sink as low as to support the election of a bunch of neo-cons in this country given your staunch disapproval of their cousins to the south of us..

Oh by the way tl... Marjaleena Repo..

She's not east Indian, Pakistani or to use your racial slur a "dotty".

She's a Canadian of Finnish descent.

Moron.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:25 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
The only "dotty" thing here is tl's panties this time of the month.
Go easy on her.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:55 am
by fix
Martyred wrote:The only "dotty" thing here is tl's panties this time of the month.
Go easy on her.
:lol:

Rack your sig btw..

I was wondering what happened to 'Paper Cuts'.
Cancer struck down another good one far to young..

It's not been a good year to have been a City reporter/broadcaster..

First Bill Cameron and now Bob..

Makes one wonder if Mark Dailey isn't sweating bullets about now..

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:10 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Otis wrote:
Martyred wrote:The only "dotty" thing here is tl's panties this time of the month.
Go easy on her.
:lol:

Rack your sig btw..

I was wondering what happened to 'Paper Cuts'.
Cancer struck down another good one far to young..

It's not been a good year to have been a City reporter/broadcaster..

First Bill Cameron and now Bob..

Makes one wonder if Mark Dailey isn't sweating bullets about now..
I don't know about "sweating bullets", but creeps like Adam Vaughn and Evan Solomon should definitely be eating some.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:06 pm
by tough love
Still TRYING. :roll:
Perhaps you should try eating a turd bigger than your wifes dick, and just die already...Jus saying.


This may not be Libby PC, but it is indeed Fact.
Finnish folk all have the same distinctive smell.
Gotta wonder if Finns with PKY names, smell more like curry, fish, or both?


Got to give it to those Librano$.
They intentionately crippled our healthcare system, yet still manage to get poli_points by playing the fearful eastern public against anyone who wants to fix up their mess.
The Liberano$ getting re-elected, pretty much said it for the dismal general state of East of Thunder Bay's mental fitness.
Perhaps there's something in the air...Hummm?
Bad Air in Ontario:

A new Health Canada report says nearly six-thousand Canadians die each year from the effects of air pollution.
The estimate was based on air pollution and mortality data from East of Thunder Bay cities.
The agency says air pollutants can cause breathing difficulties and aggravate existing respiratory and cardiac conditions, plus mental degeneration resulting in Alzheimers
Alzheimer's n : a progressive form of presenile dementia that is similar to liberal thinking except that it usually starts in the 30s - 60s; first symptoms are impaired memory which is followed by impaired thought and speech and finally voting for complete helplessness.



Not to mention, they post to themselves on MB's... :P

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:26 pm
by tough love
GUITE' POINTS FINGER

:lol: :lol: :lol:

MONTREAL -- The Prime Minister's Office scrambled yesterday to deny allegations that Paul Martin once intervened to ensure that a Toronto ad agency with Liberal ties would not lose its lucrative government contracts if it was sold to a foreign conglomerate.

The startling claim linking the Prime Minister to the sponsorship scandal was made at the Gomery inquiry by Chuck Guité, former head of the federal program.

Mr. Guité said that in early 2000, after leaving the bureaucracy to be a private consultant, he asked for assurances that Vickers & Benson Advertising Ltd. would not lose federal work. He said he was told that his ex-boss, former public works minister Alfonso Gagliano, had discussed the matter with Mr. Martin, then finance minister, and John Manley, former industry minister.[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Mr. Martin quickly denied the allegation that he had interfered.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:30 pm
by fix
:roll:

Typical tardlike deflect and spin much tlracist?

Let me ask you this tlracist, what do you think about the treatment of our native aboriginals.. the First Nations..

Do you think they are treated fairly or not fairly enough..

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:33 pm
by fix
tough love wrote:GUITE' POINTS FINGER

:lol: :lol: :lol:

MONTREAL -- The Prime Minister's Office scrambled yesterday to deny allegations that Paul Martin once intervened to ensure that a Toronto ad agency with Liberal ties would not lose its lucrative government contracts if it was sold to a foreign conglomerate.

The startling claim linking the Prime Minister to the sponsorship scandal was made at the Gomery inquiry by Chuck Guité, former head of the federal program.

Mr. Guité said that in early 2000, after leaving the bureaucracy to be a private consultant, he asked for assurances that Vickers & Benson Advertising Ltd. would not lose federal work. He said he was told that his ex-boss, former public works minister Alfonso Gagliano, had discussed the matter with Mr. Martin, then finance minister, and John Manley, former industry minister.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Mr. Martin quickly denied the allegation that he had interfered.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Guite's own testimony has contradicted himself.

It's heresay from a proven liar.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:03 pm
by Hapday
Otis wrote:

Guite's own testimony has contradicted himself.

It's heresay from a proven liar.
I wouldn't expect anything else from a gLiberal.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:28 pm
by tough love
Typical Deflecting Liberal Wrote:
Let me ask you this tlracist, what do you think about the treatment of our native aboriginals.. the First Nations..
Do you think they are treated fairly or not fairly enough..
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Typical Deflecting Liberal Idiot Volpe wrote in responce to The Liberanos Poster:
The Klan looks like it's still very much alive.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


No one can say that Libby_Tards don't have that projecting thang down pat.

Projecting: a posture that projects defeat.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

My Favorite of the week, so far.

Quote:
Mr. Martin quickly denied the allegation that he had interfered.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


TICK TOCK

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:41 pm
by Hapday
tough love wrote:
My Favorite of the week, so far.

Quote:
Mr. Martin quickly denied the allegation that he had interfered.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I laughed when I read that too. :lol: :lol: :lol: I laughed even harder as Otis let go of Martin's nutsack long enough to post here and defend him. :lol: :lol: :lol: That's a good little lemming. Was the Koolaid cherry flavoured this morning?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:57 pm
by fix
Hapday wrote:
tough love wrote:
My Favorite of the week, so far.

Quote:
Mr. Martin quickly denied the allegation that he had interfered.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I laughed when I read that too. :lol: :lol: :lol: I laughed even harder as Otis let go of Martin's nutsack long enough to post here and defend him. :lol: :lol: :lol: That's a good little lemming. Was the Koolaid cherry flavoured this morning?
I don't know Hap.. what flavour did Harper's modern day Rasputin, Tom Flanagan order Harper's flock of sheep to ingest this month?



Waffle flavour?


And just when will your boy clearly state his position on cities.. oh wait, my bad.. he doesn't have a clue on how to deal with them.
That's why he's completely ignored the mayors of this country's largest cities wishes to have this budget passed before any election is held.

Shit for that matter, the majority of Canadians who have said overwhelmingly that they do not want an election held until after the Gomery inquiry is complete.


Or hell, why he hates this country so much that he wanted to build a firewall around his country of Alberta?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:56 am
by fix
Harper's curious definition of 'disgraceful'
>by Scott Piatkowski

May 5, 2005

Last week, Stephen Harper called the budget deal reached between NDP Leader Jack Layton and Prime Minister Martin “the most disgraceful thing I've seen in all my years on Parliament Hill.” Besides causing one to wonder whether Harper has, in fact, been napping for much of the time that he's been on Parliament Hill, the comment is instructive for a number of reasons.

First of all, how is it that Stephen Harper can say that “this is not how Parliament should work” when he had already negotiated his own deal with the Liberals as his price for endorsing the government's Throne Speech? Apparently, Parliament should work differently in the fall when he's the one extracting conditions from the government than it does in the spring when the NDP is holding the cards. Or, to put it another way, Parliament should work differently when he wants an election than when he doesn't.

But, more to the point, what is it that Harper thinks is so “disgraceful” about $1.6 billion for affordable housing construction, including aboriginal housing? Does he think that the people being housed with this plan would be better off on the street or parked on a ridiculously long waiting list? Or, with respect to the aboriginal component of the housing announcement, it could be that he agrees with one of his new “star candidates,” Jim Flaherty, who once pointedly distinguished between aboriginal people and “real people.”

One also wonders what Harper finds so “disgraceful” about a $1.5-billion increase in transfers to provinces for tuition reduction and better training through Employment Insurance. Every recent economic development study that I've read has emphasized the importance of ensuring that people without jobs have the skills needed by employers. Moreover, with most provinces increasing tuition at an alarming rate, the money for tuition reductions will ensure that more people have the ability to attend university or community college without incurring massive debt loads. And, Stephen Harper finds this concept to be disgraceful?

And, what is so “disgraceful” about $900 million in new money for environmental programs and one additional cent of the federal gas tax money devoted to public transit? Now that Harper claims to support the Kyoto Accord (which, given his previous pronouncements on the subject, I find doubtful), shouldn't he also be in favour of spending money to meet our country's commitment? And, given that he says that a Conservative government would honour the federal government's commitment to share part of the gas tax with municipalities (another recent conversion, given that his party convention voted against endorsing such a measure), why would he find it objectionable for Ottawa to increase its commitment by a penny a litre? Does he have something against buses and subways that we should know about?

I'd also be fascinated to find out what Harper finds so “disgraceful” about a $500 million increase in foreign aid, which would bring Canada in line with its promise to gradually increase our foreign aid budget to 0.7 per cent of Gross Domestic Product. Is he opposed to helping countries in the developing world to cope with famine, disease and the impact of war? Why wouldn't he want to use Bono's very public outrage on this issue to embarrass Paul Martin? It's not as if he's been particularly wedded to his own party's stances on other issues, so why not come out in favour of increase development assistance as well?

Lastly, what is it that Harper finds so “disgraceful” about $100 million for a pension protection fund for workers? There are countless examples of situations in which workers have voluntarily deferred part of their wages until retirement only to be left high and dry when the company declares bankruptcy. Does Stephen Harper not think that these workers deserve to have their pensions protected?

There are three key reasons that Stephen Harper really objects to the NDP's ability to gain concessions from the Liberals, and none of them has anything to do with the budget deal allegedly being “disgraceful.” Harper wants an election now, simply because he thinks he can win it. He's wrong (if Canadians wanted him to be Prime Minister, he'd already be way higher in the polls than he is now), but he's not going to stop pushing for an election until he defeats the government. Any deal that will see the budget pass robs him of the opportunity to be defeated at the polls.

The second reason comes down to petty jealousy. As the leader of the second largest party in the House of Commons, Harper could have been in the position to dictate the terms of the Liberal agenda (such as it is, having passed a mere two bills since the June 2004 election). But, in the case of the federal budget, Harper rolled over and played dead without so much as a whimper. Before Ralph Goodale was even done reading his budget speech, Harper was telling reporters that “there's nothing in this budget that would justify an election at this time. I'm a lot happier than I thought I'd be. The major priorities in this budget are Conservative priorities.”

Harper hasn't said so, but it would be easy to conclude that part of his opposition stems from his belief in even-bigger corporate tax cuts (rather than scaling back those tax cuts, as Layton convinced Martin to do). But, with even the TD Bank telling Harper that further corporate tax cuts will do little to spur economic growth or job creation, Harper's barking up the wrong tree on that complaint as well.

The bottom line that there was absolutely nothing wrong in the deal that the NDP reached with Paul Martin. Canadians don't want an election right now, but they are anxious to see their existing government do something positive. There's nothing “disgraceful” about that.

Scott Piatkowski writes for The Woolwich Observer, ECHO Weekly, View Magazine and Pulse Niagara. His column appears in rabble.ca each Thursday.
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:42 am
by Hapday
All of these issues the writer raises were promises we've heard from the gLIberals for 12+ years. Specially the gas tax. What is hillarious about the whole thing is that this is all just stuff that gLiberals downloaded onto the provinces to pay so they could run a surplus. I wonder they suddenly want to throw money around.............. :roll: :roll: :roll:

This writer is all giddy about money that was taken away by the gLiberals in the first place. :lol: :lol: I am going to that writers house, steal his TV then give it back to him a month later. He'll think I am a hero.

That fact you still support the gLiberals says a lot about your character, or lack thereof Otis.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:05 pm
by fix
Hapday wrote:All of these issues the writer raises were promises we've heard from the gLIberals for 12+ years. Specially the gas tax. What is hillarious about the whole thing is that this is all just stuff that gLiberals downloaded onto the provinces to pay so they could run a surplus. I wonder they suddenly want to throw money around.............. :roll: :roll: :roll:

This writer is all giddy about money that was taken away by the gLiberals in the first place. :lol: :lol: I am going to that writers house, steal his TV then give it back to him a month later. He'll think I am a hero.
Jesus H Christ you're a complete idiot..

It's taken a decade to clean up the fuck'n fiscal disaster that your previous corrupt Conservitard government ran us into and left this country on the brink of bankruptcy.

Now that the rotting stench of your previous Conservitards has almost been completely purged... Yes, there is finally some more money available to hand over to the provinces.
Hapday wrote:That fact you still support the gLiberals says a lot about your character, or lack thereof Otis.
That's rich.. someone that has a zero amount of patriotism and constantly licks the boots of anyone that criticises this country questioning my character..
You're supporting a party whose leader is on record as saying he'd "build a firewall" around Alberta... he's no better than the seperatists in Quebec.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:37 pm
by tough love
Otis Wrote:
Guite's own testimony has contradicted himself.
There is a lot of that going around within your Mob these days; which I must admit I find thouroughly delightful, seeing that it's got to be the best scripted reality show out there.

From what have we learned so far?

I don't think it's unreasonable for the Canadian Public to demand that all the scamballs who are performing at that liberal criminal inquiry thang, be hooked up to lie detectors before they are allowed to say one word.
I don't think it's unreasonable for the Canadian Public to demand that ALL poli_tards be hooked up to lie detectors before they be allowed to 'supposedly' speak on our behalf.

That is; if truth is what we the people are still entitled to from those whom we trust to look after our interests; or have the many years of unbridled self-interest running roughshod over our expectations legislated that inherent right away from us also.


Scott Piatkowski

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:43 pm
by Hapday
Otis wrote: It's taken a decade to clean up the fuck'n fiscal disaster that your previous corrupt Conservitard government ran us into and left this country on the brink of bankruptcy.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

With that statement you just proved what a complete imbecile you turned out to be. Seriously. I always thought you were, but that just proved it.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 4:38 am
by fix
Hapday wrote:
Otis wrote: It's taken a decade to clean up the fuck'n fiscal disaster that your previous corrupt Conservitard government ran us into and left this country on the brink of bankruptcy.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

With that statement you just proved what a complete imbecile you turned out to be. Seriously. I always thought you were, but that just proved it.
Alright fool..

Prove that they didn't..

Explain why the last Federal Conservitard government was ran like the feeble cunts that they were and left with only 2 seats in the election of 1993.

You remember that election don't you?
The 1993 Canadian federal election was one of the most eventful in Canadian history. While Canada's traditional ruling party, the Liberals, was returned to power, the equally old Progressive Conservative Party was all but annihilated. The election also saw the rise of two new parties: the Bloc Québécois, which became the Official Opposition, and the Reform Party, which also won many seats.
The election was called by Progressive Conservative leader Kim Campbell, who had been Prime Minister for only a few months. She had replaced Brian Mulroney, who was considered one of the most unpopular Prime Ministers in Canadian history because of his failed constitutional reforms and the poor state of the Canadian economy. While she was expected to lose the election, she was forced to call one as the Tories' five-year mandate had almost expired.




Here's a couple more reminders for you of just how pathetic your Conservitards were..
The government was also battered from 1985 to 1987 by allegations that certain Cabinet ministers had granted inappropriate political favors or were guilty of misconduct. Several ministers were forced out of office, while the reputations of others were seriously damaged. The public criticized Mulroney, linking his Cabinet’s missteps to his own faults. The media and members of Parliament accused him of failing to provide clear direction to the government, of centralizing power in the hands of an incompetent personal staff, and of indulging his large network of political friends with favors. His critics accused him of breaking his promises and evading responsibility for the conduct of his ministers. Only 18 months after the election, the Mulroney government’s popularity had slipped so badly that the Conservatives fell behind the Liberals in voter preference polls.
In his second term as prime minister, Mulroney suffered an unrelieved series of problems that led to his political demise. The economy had a downturn, which polls showed many people blamed on the FTA. In 1989 the Conservative government lost additional popularity when it approved the Goods and Services Tax (GST), a broad sales tax that was slated to replace in 1991 a tax charged only on manufactured goods.
The most serious blow to the Mulroney government was the unraveling of support for the Meech Lake Accord during the summer of 1989. Critics persistently attacked the agreement, arguing that it would weaken the federal system by granting too much power to the government of Québec and would violate the principle of equality among the provinces. Many members of Canada’s First Nations vehemently opposed the agreement because it failed to address aboriginal rights. Mulroney made a valiant effort to save the Meech Lake Accord through a new round of constitutional negotiations in the spring of 1990, but Manitoba and Newfoundland and Labrador did not ratify it that June. As a result, the accord failed.

Even before the agreement failed, Mulroney’s senior Québec minister, Lucien Bouchard, and two other Conservative members of Parliament had resigned from the party to protest Mulroney’s willingness to renegotiate the accord’s terms. When the agreement failed, they formed a new party, the Bloc Québécois, to support Québec’s separation from Canada. The Bloc quickly gained support in Québec. Even moderate nationalists were upset because they saw the defeat of the Meech Lake Accord as English Canada rejecting Québec’s claim of distinctiveness as a French-speaking province. Québec’s Liberal premier Robert Bourassa warned the federal government that by 1992 the provincial government would hold a referendum on Québec’s status in the confederation. Faced with this ultimatum, Mulroney initiated a new round of constitutional negotiations, which resulted in the Charlottetown Accord.

By 1992 Mulroney was struggling to win public support for his major initiatives. His government had begun negotiating in 1990 with the United States and Mexico for the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which would expand the FTA to include Mexico. Many Canadians opposed NAFTA when it was presented to the legislatures of all three countries for approval in 1992. Mulroney’s government also fared poorly with the Charlottetown Accord, which was finalized in the summer of 1992. The accord was put to voters in a national referendum that fall and was defeated—leaving Mulroney’s efforts to achieve a constitutional accommodation for Québec in complete disarray.

In February 1993, with polls indicating that his popularity had plummeted, Mulroney announced that he would resign as Conservative leader and prime minister in June. However, he was active during his last months in office. In May he signed the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement, which called for the establishment of the territory of Nunavut in 1999, and Parliament ratified the agreement in June. Under pressure from Mulroney, the Conservative-dominated Parliament also ratified NAFTA in June, the day before Mulroney stepped down.

In June 1993 a leadership convention chose Kim Campbell as Mulroney’s successor. In the election that October—with the opposition parties associating Campbell with Mulroney and the Mulroney government’s record—the Conservatives experienced the worst defeat in their history. In Québec they were swept away by the Bloc Québécois and in western Canada by the Reform Party, while the Liberals won Ontario and the Atlantic provinces. The Conservatives lost all but two of their parliamentary seats.
Critics of Mulroney argue that his government did not do enough to reduce the federal deficit; that his unsuccessful efforts to reform the constitution widened the rift between Québec nationalists and other Canadians; and that the free trade agreements his government negotiated weakened Canada’s control over its own affairs.
Since his retirement from politics, public assessments of Mulroney’s leadership—as expressed in polls—have remained largely negative. This seems to reflect a belief that his government was too free in granting favors to its friends, a reaction to his flamboyant rhetoric that included promises he could not keep, and widespread dislike of the Goods and Services Tax.
And to think that you support that idiot.. then again.. two peas in a pod I suppose..

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:06 pm
by tough love
Hap Wrote:
With that statement you just proved what a complete imbecile you turned out to be. Seriously. I always thought you were, but that just proved it.
I disagree.
Otis is being but the typical liberal on the run stooge whose inability to face the sad truth head on has his desperation bringing up the transgressions of a 10 plus yr old corrupt admin; sadly hoping to deflect from that which the now pudrid state of poli-po$ers have created.

As In: The criminals defense argues that they should not be found guilty because others have done the same or worse. :roll:

What next???
Hap dizzing that over_educated Idiot Lawyer Trudeau for reforming the Constitution to include the right of degenerate perverts to successfully contest the laws of OUR land.

Word: Your Rich Rulers love you blind Partisans.
Word: Your blinder vision is what keeps their dirty rotten greedy dreams alive.



VOTE ALLIANCE...Trim The Fat Before You Butcher The Hog (in respectful memory of SparHawk *sniffles*)

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 7:09 pm
by fix
A couple more good editorial cartoons..

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And the best one yet...


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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:14 pm
by Hapday
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:13 pm
by tough love
From this weeks Dept Of Poli_Funny:

Martin blames Harper for his disgraceful 60th anniversary of V-E Day tardiness... :lol:


Oldie but still a Goodie:
Crouton's official statement to Canadians, immediately after Martin was elected.

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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:17 am
by fix
tough love wrote:From this weeks Dept Of Poli_Funny:

Martin blames Harper for his disgraceful 60th anniversary of V-E Day tardiness... :lol:
If Harper weren't so obsessed with overthrowing the government and would have had the class to do the right thing by agreeing not to bring down the government while Martin was overseas, then it wouldn't be an issue.
But that's Harper for you.. no class.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:29 pm
by tough love
^
If that was Martin$ concern, he could of at least showed up on Sunday, anywho; there was already an agreement struck between all parties.

Martin's BS blame act was simply a low life attempt to effect the Alliances Vet appeal.
Did It Work???
The fact that some of the Canadian Vets there, as well as some of the attending locals, refused to shake Martins hand when he tried to hone in on their action for a photo opt, say's that these old guys were not falling for his crap. (as late as it was)

Come to think of it, that was pretty darn funny as well... :lol:


Key Censue Vote:
153 - take your rich self serving asses and fuc-off scam_bags
150 - libby criminals get to profit longer

Related:
From the Poli_Dept Of That's Gotta Hurt.
There have got to be some pissed off NDP voters out there who feel betrayed big time cuz they DIDN"T want to vote for PigMartin.
Layton may of momentary powdered his own useless ass, but I know if I was into supporting the NDP, that support would be put on hold as long as TraitorLaytons sellout ass misled the party.

Todays Funny:
Martin refusing to accept the fact that his jig is up, even after his ass loses a key censure vote ... :lol:

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:02 pm
by Hapday

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:16 pm
by Hapday
Since Otis only really understands cartoons:



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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:56 pm
by tough love
See for yourself how the film footage shows the padre being pushed aside and how overzealous members of the Martin entourage physically knock a Sri Lankan mourner to the ground–without apology.

See and hear for yourself how he shills the purified water of Zenon Environmental Inc., an Oakville-based company of which his lifetime mentor Maurice Strong is a board member.

See and hear some of the film highlights, including Padre Hardwick trying to do the job he was asked to do: namely honouring the dead. Padre Hardwick calls for a Moment of Silence. Fifteen seconds into the Moment of Silence, Prime Minister Martin ends it, saying, "Let’s go."

Swigging from a bottle of Zenon purified water, he says repeatedly, "C’est excellent!"

Martin passes the bottle to wife, Sheila, who swigs from it, pronouncing distinctly, "Better than at home!

NDP leader Jack Layton, who, when he’s in Canada, promotes himself to the public as a strong Prime Minister opponent, beams at the PM as the proudest of close personal friends. If you listen, you can clearly hear Layton ask as photographers line up the Zenon photo-op: "Is that the water? Is that the water?"

Mainstream Canadian compassion is understood globally. Average Canadians sent some $40-million to Sri Lanka--that has yet to arrive!

Their prime minister disgraced the image of ‘The Compassionate Canadian’ in a single photo op.

But even worse than that, Martin chose to shill for a Canadian-owned water company linked to his personal mentor in a Sri Lanka that was locked in heartbreaking grief.

Not only Canadians would agree that Sri Lankans deserve so much better than that.
quote: Ostensibly, the Prime Minister’s official visit to tsunami-ravaged Sri Lanka was about Canadian compassion.... :lol:


Related:
Poor striped of all dignity, Jack; even with his wholesale whoredom sealed and delivered, his fall from respect still adds up to 3 votes short... :lol:

TICK TOCK


Vote for Martin, vote NDP... :roll:

Talking about poli_laughs, anyone catching any of those BC Prov Election Stunts.

EG: Trying to turn the voting motorists against your poli_opponent by blocking a highway with a truck covered with your rivals poli_slogans, was a pretty darn choice example of what these po$ers are about... :lol:

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:10 pm
by Hapday
Canadians know the truth, Martin can't be trusted.

This lame horse will be taken to the back of barn and put out of its misery soon enough.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:30 pm
by tough love
I don't know, Hap???
I had more confidence in Harpers chances last time around, than I will if/when they force another Crap_Fest upon the nation.

Few Concerns:
Martin is well aware that a well oiled brain washing campaign can dissipate truth into irrelevance.
When it comes to Poli_Poser_Play_Tactics, the Libby's are more experienced, and the odds on favorite team in that regard.
Many Canadians are overly susceptable to being swayed by fear mongering, and these Libby's (and their media friends) are masters at swilling that crap.
Many disgrunted Canadians who voted Alliance are pleased that we ended up with a minority Gov, and may just vote against Harpers zest for power for trying to f 'em outta that.

Another thing worth consideration:
Martin's pathetic delaying tactics to remain in power is most likely a calculated strategy to push the election date further into Canada's recreation season, hoping that the added inconvenience of election time being held during peak holiday time will turn more folks off to Harpers action of forcing an election upon 'em at an inappropiate time.

As much as I agree with those who believe Canada would be better off served (short term for sure) without the Libby's, I have a knawing fear that we just may end up with a Libby majority due to Harpers miscalculations.

I have been wrong before... :wink:

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:06 am
by fix
Hapday wrote:Canadians know the truth, Martin can't be trusted.

This lame horse will be taken to the back of barn and put out of its misery soon enough.
:lol:

According to Decima and Ipsos-Reid you've got that backwards..

Canadians know the truth, as much as they're pissed at the Liberals, they still don't like or trust Harper
A recent Strategic Counsel survey suggests Conservatives have the support of 31 percent of voters. The Liberals garner 27 percent and the N.D.P. are at 20 percent.

But the latest Decima Poll states the opposite. It gives Paul Martin’s party a big lead at 37 percent, while Stephen Harper’s troops march to war with only 28 percent strength. The N.D.P. remains in third at 18 percent.

But the biggest question may not be who leads nationally but in what another pollster, Ipsos-Reid, calls the “401 vote”.

Ontario remains the key battleground in this ongoing skirmish and it’s likely to be a fight to the finish.

“It really comes down to about 10 percent of the population who are shifting in their feet back and forth between the Conservatives and the Liberals, and right now they favour the Liberals,” suggests John Wright.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:11 am
by fix
tough love wrote:As much as I agree with those who believe Canada would be better off served (short term for sure) without the Libby's, I have a knawing fear that we just may end up with a Libby majority due to Harpers miscalculations.
:bode:

Question.. when Harper loses this election will he step down or be pushed out the door?