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Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:21 am
by Diego in Seattle
Left Seater wrote:Abortion is legal here in Texas. The state recently passed a law that requires abortions be performed in a surgical facility and the doctor performing the procedure must have hospital admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles of the facility. This law was challenged in court and upheld. The result is that abortion clinics in Texas have dwindled from 40+ two years ago to 4 today.
L-R Texas, SCOTUS
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:57 am
by Mikey
smackaholic wrote:Diego in Seattle wrote:Justices Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor and Breyer all pointed out that other procedures, including liposuctions, colonoscopies and dental surgeries, have higher complication rates and yet can be performed in facilities that do not meet the stringent standards.
Try again, Left Behinder.
In the case of liposuction and dental surgeries, I suspect that "complication" generally means infection. Infection is a bad thing and left untreated, will certainly kill you dead, but it doesn't kill you in 15 minutes. An abortion that goes wrong, particularly later term abortions can result in the mother bleeding to death in short order. Not sure what the deal is with colonoscopies. I have had to and all I remember was a damn good nap each time.
Why do dems think that the mother's safety is not important? They use this excuse (falsely) as a reason for the barbaric practice of late term abortions. I am no holy roller asshole and to be quite honest, it isn't that high on my list of priorities, but when it comes to murdering a baby that is 100% viable when it can be delivered without considerable risk to the mother, yeah, I think that's kinda fukked up. And people that support it deserve to be retroactively aborted.
Once again, your ignorance is mind boggling.
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:55 am
by smackaholic
Care to point out exactly where I am being ignorant? Are you saying that an abortion is a simple, safe procedure and that when something goes wrong, it does not put the mother in danger?
No one here is outlawing abortion. They are simply saying that it must conform to regulations already in effect for other medical procedures. And if the state did say that oral surgeons and liposuckers needed to comply, I doubt the SCOTUS would involve itself.
This is nothing more than the SCOTUS making a political decision. End of story. It isn't about medical procedures, it is about protecting one of their sacred cows.
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:05 pm
by Goober McTuber
Deciding vote cast by Justice Kennedy, a Reagan appointee.

Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:26 pm
by smackaholic
Goober McTuber wrote:Deciding vote cast by Justice Kennedy, a Reagan appointee.

Just fukking once, I would like to see a dem. prez appoint a turncoat like the reps have done a few times. Ever since Bork got "borked" the republicans have tried there best to go with a moderate that the dems would find acceptable.
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:32 pm
by Goober McTuber
smackaholic wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:Deciding vote cast by Justice Kennedy, a Reagan appointee.

Just fukking once, I would like to see a dem. prez appoint a turncoat like the reps have done a few times. Ever since Bork got "borked" the republicans have tried there best to go with a moderate that the dems would find acceptable.
Justice Stephen Breyer wrote the majority opinion, which was joined in full by Kennedy. Breyer wrote that despite arguments that the restrictions were designed to protect women's health, the reality is that they merely amounted to burdening women who seek abortions.
"There was no significant health-related problem that the new law helped to cure," Breyer wrote. "We agree with the District Court that the surgical-center requirement, like the admitting-privileges requirement, provides few, if any, health benefits for women, poses a substantial obstacle to women seeking abortions, and constitutes an "undue burden" on their constitutional right to do so."
This makes Kennedy a turncoat? You really are an ignorant buffoon. Just STFU.
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:24 pm
by Rooster
Speaking of unborn babies, why all the fuss about the Zika virus? If the stuff forming in a woman's womb is just a bunch of cells with no identity or personhood, why spend money to prevent what is more or less a mild case of the flu in terms of symptoms? The Dems should be celebrating the fact there is now a legitimate reason to slay whatever it is that's growing inside them biological lady-part ovens.
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:55 pm
by Goober McTuber
Rooster wrote:Speaking of unborn babies, why all the fuss about the Zika virus? If the stuff forming in a woman's womb is just a bunch of cells with no identity or personhood, why spend money to prevent what is more or less a mild case of the flu in terms of symptoms? The Dems should be celebrating the fact there is now a legitimate reason to slay whatever it is that's growing inside them biological lady-part ovens.
You seem to be quite jealous of suckaholic's standing as DMFOTI.
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:55 pm
by Mikey
Goober McTuber wrote:Rooster wrote:Speaking of unborn babies, why all the fuss about the Zika virus? If the stuff forming in a woman's womb is just a bunch of cells with no identity or personhood, why spend money to prevent what is more or less a mild case of the flu in terms of symptoms? The Dems should be celebrating the fact there is now a legitimate reason to slay whatever it is that's growing inside them biological lady-part ovens.
You seem to be quite jealous of suckaholic's standing as DMFOTI.
They both have their days, though suckaholic has been putting up a strong effort recently.
Re: Courts to the States - GFY
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:19 pm
by Bucmonkey
Rooster wrote:Speaking of unborn babies, why all the fuss about the Zika virus? If the stuff forming in a woman's womb is just a bunch of cells with no identity or personhood, why spend money to prevent what is more or less a mild case of the flu in terms of symptoms? The Dems should be celebrating the fact there is now a legitimate reason to slay whatever it is that's growing inside them biological lady-part ovens.
You just can't help yourself can you?