One thing you do is you go after their financing. Most of their money is coming from countries that are (supposed to be) playing by the rules. Governments, companies, banks and/or individuals who are making a buck buying their stolen oil at cut rate prices, or laundering their cash, need to be treated as pariahs and punished by the international community. Maybe even considered part of ISIS and beheaded on live TV.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:53 pm
by Goober McTuber
Mikey wrote:One thing you do is you go after their financing. Most of their money is coming from countries that are (supposed to be) playing by the rules. Governments, companies, banks and/or individuals who are making a buck buying their stolen oil at cut rate prices, or laundering their cash, need to be treated as pariahs and punished by the international community. Maybe even considered part of ISIS and beheaded on live TV.
I don't believe you would be making light-hearted comments like this if you had friends or family who were beheaded on live TV.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:04 pm
by mvscal
Mikey wrote:One thing you do is you go after their financing. Most of their money is coming from countries that are (supposed to be) playing by the rules.
Yeah, that's what I said earlier. It's what Trump said weeks ago.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:10 pm
by mvscal
Jsc810 wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:Ah, you're not familiar with or do not understand NATO.
I do. You clearly don't. Which nation just attacked France? Most of the attackers were either French or Belgians with a couple of "Syrian" "refugees" in the mix.
Wow, you're now rivaling poptart by not reading or not understanding when the answer is provided to you.
Read the article I linked for you, it will help.
I read your stupid article. The Frenchies are big boys or at least aspire to be. They can go die in Syria if they want to. I really don't give a fuck. It's none of our business.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:16 pm
by MuchoBulls
mvscal wrote:So what?
So let's dance
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:01 pm
by mvscal
88 wrote:
Mikey's suggestion of bleeding ISIS dry of caysh is a good one. But when doing so, you have to be ready to look at pictures of starving children.
Bleeding them dry of cash means designating Saudi Arabia and most of the Gulf Emirates as state sponsors of terrorism, freezing their accounts and seizing their assets. Any solution which does not involve doing this will fail. No question.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:14 pm
by mvscal
88 wrote:But Israel goes poof about 45 seconds after you do that.
A. Nonsense.
B. So what if it did?
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:20 pm
by Mikey
mvscal wrote:
88 wrote:
Mikey's suggestion of bleeding ISIS dry of caysh is a good one. But when doing so, you have to be ready to look at pictures of starving children.
Bleeding them dry of cash means designating Saudi Arabia and most of the Gulf Emirates as state sponsors of terrorism, freezing their accounts and seizing their assets. Any solution which does not involve doing this will fail. No question.
The biggest fail in the past 20 years or more, administrations of both parties, is the refusal to recognize these countries for what they are. It's not like anybody with more than half a brain and any awareness at all doesn't already know this. I guess the US powers that be are just too beholden to their $$ to do anything about it.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:27 pm
by mvscal
I think Saudi Arabia is due for a little of that nice, Arab Spring weather.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:31 pm
by War Wagon
Jsc810 wrote:I'd like to see a D-Day type event against them. Surround those bastards with several armies and destroy them completely.
That almost made sense... for about 6 seconds.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:33 pm
by mvscal
Taking over? That's where they're from. I would get a good chuckle out of these Saudi princelings getting dome lopped or burned alive in cages.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:42 pm
by mvscal
Sudden Sam wrote:
Just like Saddam and Moamar and Bashar, they're despicable people, but...
They've been able to keep things reasonably under control for many years.
Are you insane or just stupid?
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:45 pm
by Diego in Seattle
88 wrote:You get as much of the worldwide community as possible to agree to stop selling arms to the bad guys.
So make it a gun-free zone, since it's worked so well in Chicago?
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:51 pm
by BSmack
Jsc810 wrote:I'd like to see a D-Day type event against them. Surround those bastards with several armies and destroy them completely.
Or we could let the French exterminate them with our logistical support.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:56 pm
by Left Seater
Diego in Seattle wrote:
88 wrote:You get as much of the worldwide community as possible to agree to stop selling arms to the bad guys.
So make it a gun-free zone, since it's worked so well in Chicago?
Left Seater wrote:
As others have said, the Christians killing of Muslims is a direct result of multiple terrorist attacks. So while your statement is true it means next to nothing.
To you maybe but I was talking facts not opinions.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:26 pm
by Left Seater
Moving Sale wrote:
Left Seater wrote:
As others have said, the Christians killing of Muslims is a direct result of multiple terrorist attacks. So while your statement is true it means next to nothing.
To you maybe but I was talking facts not opinions.
As was I.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:33 pm
by Moving Sale
No its your opinion that is doesnt matter.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:36 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
This shit needs to end NOW.
I would totally put a stop on ISIS' next cheque.
Enough already.
:x
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:02 pm
by The Seer
mvscal wrote:
88 wrote:But Israel goes poof about 45 seconds after you do that.
A. Nonsense.
B. So what if it did?
Nick mvscal?
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:29 pm
by mvscal
There are more choices than that.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:30 am
by H4ever
88 wrote:I do not think it is a good idea to go to war against an enemy that does not wear a uniform, does not play by the rules, and has no power to sign a peace treaty that will be accepted by the people it claims to represent when you defeat them. If we start bombing ISIS, and one of them walks out and signs a paper saying they agree to end hostilities, will it end hostilities? No. Can we kill all of them? No. Do we the resources or stones to occupy that region for the next four generations? No. Then stay the fuck out.
I think that what should be done in this instance is painful, but essential. You get as much of the worldwide community as possible to agree to stop selling arms to the bad guys. And, you prohibit all immigration from the fucked up regions for any reason thus forcing the people living there to make a choice: either capitulate to the formation of a Caliphate and regress your civilization back a couple of decades to the 7th century AD; or rise up and fight the fuckers that are raising hell on your turf. The pictures will be awful. But we aren't the ones doing the awful shit to them.
Unless something changes, you don't send our children over there to die for them. We did that once before, and it didn't work out so good for us. It is now time to let the people who live there sort out their own issues. If the bad guys start attacking us or our allies, then we defend against such attacks with brutal force. But right now, there is not much to do in my opinion. It ain't our fight.
Rack that shit X 2.. but big oil isn't gonna let it happen. Letting the Messicans run the rigs would be ideal, but the only way to achieve that is to 1. bury their whole culture and religion with violence and mayhem or 2. Put them on reservations (American Indians) and destroy their culture and religion and eliminate the exposure of subsequent generations to such an ingrate, goat-fucking warped religion like Islam.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:34 am
by H4ever
mvscal wrote:
88 wrote:
Mikey's suggestion of bleeding ISIS dry of caysh is a good one. But when doing so, you have to be ready to look at pictures of starving children.
Bleeding them dry of cash means designating Saudi Arabia and most of the Gulf Emirates as state sponsors of terrorism, freezing their accounts and seizing their assets. Any solution which does not involve doing this will fail. No question.
we should all be willing to pay 8 bucks a gallon for awhile if it potentially saves our grandchildren from a suicide bomber at Super Bowl LXXII.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:16 am
by Felix
88 wrote:But when doing so, you have to be ready to look at pictures of starving children. That is how they roll.
pictures of starving kids or blown up people.....this is a tough one
I'll go with the starving kids....
fuck those assholes
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:42 am
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:There are more choices than that.
Oh? Like what? As usual, you say nothing (beyond your steady drive of death and corporate whoredom)
I believe in Jesus and the corporate cross...
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:16 pm
by Bucmonkey
Putin is not going to give a shit about collateral damage, let the Russians raze the cities they control.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:55 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Sudden Sam wrote:"They have weapons ... Fuck them, we have champagne!"
Turn that cartoon image upside-down...and it resembles a menorah ...
Coincidence?
just sayin'
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:02 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
mazeltov
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:54 pm
by smackaholic
KC Scott wrote:Security camera footage from the cafe that was attacked
How's that strict gun control working out for you, frenchies? I'll bet jacques wishes he has an AR or M9 down there in the basement as he scurried down the steps.
This is coming to a mall near go, guaranfukkin' teed. I suspect they will pick a mall in NY/NJ or MA. They likely won't pick one outside Dallas where a few of the victims might actually be able to fire back. Imagine the damage they could do on balck friday. I suspect the authorities do expect this and have taken measures to counter it, but, they can't be everywhere all the time.
Anonymous wasn’t joking when they promised their biggest operation ever called #opISIS or #opParis. Already the hacker group has taken down 5,500 ISIS-linked Twitter accounts and now it is getting even more personal.
According to documents seen by the British publication The Independent, Anonymous is now in possession of personal info of alleged extremists in Europe and beyond.
So some basement dwelling dick beaters can dig up this info at the drop of a hat but the NSA can't? I guess they're too busy picking through your email.
This administration is a fucking joke and YOU own it. You'll even vote for more of it because you're a fucking moron.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:13 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Hillary's proxy militia.
Battle honours include Libya and Tikrit.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:34 pm
by mvscal
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:Hillary's proxy militia.
Battle honours include Libya and Tikrit.
Mosul, Ramadi, Raqqa etc...
Not to worry. They're just the JV squad and are totally contained.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:32 pm
by mvscal
Not you. The other SEC moron.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:40 pm
by Screw_Michigan
mvscal wrote:Not you. The other SEC moron.
Carson? :/
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:32 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Jsc810 wrote:He's talking about me, and yes, I voted for Obama in the last election; I voted for McCain in the election before that.
U.S. Pilots Confirm: Obama Admin Blocks 75 Percent of Islamic State Strikes
‘We can’t get clearance even when we have a clear target in front of us’
U.S. military pilots who have returned from the fight against the Islamic State in Iraq are confirming that they were blocked from dropping 75 percent of their ordnance on terror targets because they could not get clearance to launch a strike, according to a leading member of Congress.
Strikes against the Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL) targets are often blocked due to an Obama administration policy to prevent civilian deaths and collateral damage, according to Rep. Ed Royce (R., Calif.), chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
This really is about like Roosevelt saying Nazis are peaceful tolerant people sometime around Nov, 1944.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:46 pm
by Felix
mvscal wrote:
So some basement dwelling dick beaters can dig up this info at the drop of a hat but the NSA can't?
these guys aren't a bunch of high school kids fucking around....when it comes to computer shit anonymous is seriously not a group to be sneered at nor taken lightly....a few years back one of members of anonymous took down one of the websites belonging to the Westboro Baptist Church while simultaneously conducting an interview with that screeching harpy Shirley Phelps-Roper, the spokesperson for the church.....she poo pooed them and they proceeded to take down multiple westboro sites....
This administration is a fucking joke and YOU own it.
I'll admit I voted for him the first time, but didn't vote in the second election.....Obama is obviously in way over his head and he's listening to the wrong people.....I absolutely will not vote for Shillary.....if she gets elected this country is going to be in serious trouble.....more trouble than we already are in....
"Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism."
jeezus, she lives in some sort of fantasy world....I wonder what color the sky is in her world
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:55 pm
by mvscal
I would venture to guess that the Saudis just made a rather generous donation to her slush fun...err charitable foundation. She'll read whatever script she's given.
Re: Le Boom
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:00 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
War Wagon wrote:From the start of the Syrian civil war....
There's no "civil war".
Just re-branded Neo-Cons, Samantha Power, the guy with his hand up the Obama puppet, Northrop Grumman, etc...laundering funds intended for their proxy known as ISIS/ISIL.
...and then there's Putin, who ain't having any of that shit...
Well fuck all, I guess every squirrely squirmer finds a GMO acorn now and then. Now if he'd just come out of his hole a bit more and describe just exactly who and what these "Neo-Cons" are (cough sound..um dual citizens), we might just have some verified mental motion. And yes, same with babs, stating plainly that of course "we" have no interest or intention of eliminating "ISIS" anytime soon.
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