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Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:06 pm
by ML@Coyote
smackaholic wrote:Moving Sale wrote:Holic
I think your facts are wack on welfare but let's say you are right. That would mean a bunch of white people worked to help fuck up their lives. Way to prove my point.
You are absolutely correct. A buncha white folk such as LBJ are partially responsible for the plight of the balck family today.
Where we differ is in what we can do to correct it.
So...what
should be done?
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:09 pm
by Goober McTuber
ML@Coyote wrote:smackaholic wrote:Moving Sale wrote:Holic
I think your facts are wack on welfare but let's say you are right. That would mean a bunch of white people worked to help fuck up their lives. Way to prove my point.
You are absolutely correct. A buncha white folk such as LBJ are partially responsible for the plight of the balck family today.
Where we differ is in what we can do to correct it.
So...what
should be done?
All citizens should carry assault rifles.
Sincerely,
smackaholic
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:43 pm
by Moving Sale
schmick wrote:
Within a generation or two the weak and the worthless will have been weeded out, those with the backbone to better themselves will have integrated into a normal society
Utter bullshit. You weren't weeded out and you are weak and worthless.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:47 pm
by Moving Sale
schmick wrote:smackaholic wrote:Moving Sale wrote:Holic
I think your facts are wack on welfare but let's say you are right. That would mean a bunch of white people worked to help fuck up their lives. Way to prove my point.
You are absolutely correct. A buncha white folk such as LBJ are partially responsible for the plight of the balck family today.
Where we differ is in what we can do to correct it.
It's the racism of low expectations. Welfare, affirmative action, black colleges, excusing lower test scores... liberals are the racists and they have enabled the destruction of black families in this country. But hey, black women generally vote for dims so the progressive plans of LBJ worked
Yeah so much worse than just hanging them in a tree eh?
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:59 pm
by ML@Coyote
schmick wrote:It's the racism of low expectations. Welfare, affirmative action, black colleges, excusing lower test scores...
I agree that these are forms of racism (though probably not intentional). It's unwise to expect less from the people you are ostensibly trying to help, as if they're incapable of rising to the task by their own wits and effort. Encouragement, advice, and guidance is appropriate, but making things easier just for them is a bad idea. It's like letting a kid beat you at a game of chess. The kid knows you're letting him win, and so the victory means nothing. Sometimes when we try to help, we're really not helping at all.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:11 pm
by Moving Sale
You guys are fucking retarded. People only need those programs in large numbers when they are being oppressed. The "leftist " are doing their best to fix a problem that was started by a bunch of racists but they don't have the power to just disenfranchise the racists.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:14 pm
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:The "leftist " are doing their best to fix a problem that was started by a bunch of racists but they don't have the power to just disenfranchise the racists.
Yeah, dude -- LBJ toooooootally wasn't a racist.
Sweet take, bro -- very well thought-out.
Go sit in the corner, dumbass.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:19 pm
by ML@Coyote
ML@Coyote wrote:So...what should be done?
schmick wrote:No more excuses, no more affirmative action, no more welfare, no more handouts. All students must reach the same standards to go to high school and college. Those who fail will go to trade schools where they will learn to take pride in a days work.
Within a generation or two the weak and the worthless will have been weeded out, those with the backbone to better themselves will have integrated into a normal society
You've just said what you
wouldn't do. But what
would you do? Would you do anything proactively? Or do you think the problems will just sort themselves out?
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:34 pm
by ML@Coyote
Moving Sale wrote:People only need those programs in large numbers when they are being oppressed.
People don't need those kinds of programs at all, oppressed or otherwise. The programs are demeaning. They strip people of self worth. If you want to invest in something worthwhile, invest in their schools, in their teachers and facilities. Give them a fighting chance to prove themselves rather than handouts and special favors.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:48 pm
by Moving Sale
Do you even know what redlining is?
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:50 pm
by Moving Sale
Dinsdale wrote:Moving Sale wrote:The "leftist " are doing their best to fix a problem that was started by a bunch of racists but they don't have the power to just disenfranchise the racists.
Yeah, dude -- LBJ toooooootally wasn't a racist.
Sweet take, bro -- very well thought-out.
Go sit in the corner, dumbass.
LBJ didn't pass welfare legislation dolt.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:54 pm
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:Do you even know what redlining is?
Yes. It's good business practice. And it was also a false narrative created in the 90's to try and convince people that banks care about any color besides green. And enough people, including yourself, apparently, bought into it enough to crash the American economy.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:02 am
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:
LBJ didn't pass welfare legislation dolt.
Why aren't you still in the corner, dumbass?
While you are technically correct that LBJ didn't pass the legislation, since presidents don't pass any laws, you couldn't be any more disingenuous if you tried harder (since you obviously put effort into being disingenuous).
No, he didn't "pass" it. He fucking WROTE it, introduced it, pushed Congress to "pass" it, and then signed it into law.
Go to the chalkboard and write "I will not be an obtuse idiot" 100 times.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:18 am
by ML@Coyote
Thomas Sowell on LBJ's War on Poverty: "The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life."
I suppose Thomas Sowell is a racist?
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:23 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
I was surprised to read that up until the beginning of the 20th century, black families had higher legitimacy rates than whites...
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:54 am
by Moving Sale
Moving Sale wrote:
I think your facts are wack on welfare but let's say you are right. That would mean a bunch of white people worked to help fuck up their lives. Way to prove my point.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:59 am
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:
I think your facts are wack on welfare but let's say you are right. That would mean a bunch of white people worked to help fuck up their lives. Way to prove my point.
Uhm... you are proving everyone else's point, dumbass. But at least you're starting to catch on.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:05 am
by Moving Sale
Your point seems to be LBJ was worse than slavery.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:07 am
by Dinsdale
I don't recall saying anything about slavery.
Putting words in other people's mouths is the epitome of a White Flag.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:22 am
by Moving Sale
That is why I said "seems to be" dolt. If it's that LBJ is a racist, I never said he wasn't.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:31 am
by ML@Coyote
Are you drunk?
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:43 am
by smackaholic
Moving Sale wrote:Your point seems to be LBJ was worse than slavery.
LBJ was simply a different type of massa.
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Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:48 am
by Left Seater
Moving Sale wrote: People only need those programs in large numbers when they are being oppressed. The "leftist " are doing their best to fix a problem that was started by a bunch of racists
Hey we agree for the most part. The Dems/Leftist's/balck leaders are the ones doing the oppressing. And the problems started by a bunch of racists, are the leftists themselves and the balck leaders who shill for said leftists.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:02 am
by ML@Coyote
One Fine Day at Fonebone's Tavern
With sincerest apologies to Don Martin
The well-dressed midget staggers back from the restroom and takes his seat at the bar...
"Hit me again, Fonebone. Make it a double."
"Think maybe you've had enough?"
"Hell, I'm just getting started. You have a problem serving little attorneys?"
"No, of course not MS."
"Good, good. Hurry it up, will ya?"
The midget fumbles with his cellphone and looks at the screen...
"Fuckin' Dins"
"Pardon me?"
"Fuckin' Dins, Ml@Stupid, Shlomart, Left Seater. Fuck 'em all."
"Whatever you say, MS. Here's your drink."
"Bring me another one. Keep 'em coming."
Tap, tap, tap, the midget types on his phone...
You guys are fucking retarded. The "leftist" are doing their best to fix a problem started by a bunch of racists.
He scratches his head, and continues to type...
but they don't have the power to just disenfranchise the racists.
"Here's your drink, MS."
"Good, good, bring me another one."
"Another one?"
"Hop to it."
"Of course, MS. Coming right up."
Tap, tap, tap, the midget types on his phone...
Do you even know what redlining is?
"What'd they say?"
"I hate these fuckers. They never take me seriously."
Tap, tap, tap, the midget types on his phone...
LBJ didn't pass welfare legislation dolt.
"Now what?"
"They're telling me to sit in a corner. They're quoting Thomas Sowell. I'll show them!"
Tap, tap, tap...
Your point seems to be LBJ was worse than slavery.
"Now what'd they say?"
"That I'm putting words in their mouths. Say, where's that drink?"
"Coming right up."
Tap, tap, tap...
That is why I said "seems to be" dolt. If it's that LBJ is a racist, I never said he wasn't.
"Here's your drink."
"What the fuck. Now they asked me if I was drunk. Do I look drunk to you?"
"No, you look fine MS. Uh, would you like me to call you a cab?"
"A cab?"
"You know, to take you home."
"Are you asking me to leave?"
"No, no, you want another drink?"
The midget fumbles with his cellphone again...
"Damn it all. Just my luck. My fucking battery's dead."
"Here's your drink."
"Tomorrow's another day, right Fonebone? This one's for you pal."
"Whatever you say, MS."
"I'll be back. I always come back. And they'll all be sorry!"
"I bet they will."
"Pardon me?"
"Nothing MS. I guess I was just thinking out loud."
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:19 pm
by Innocent Bystander
No more excuses, no more affirmative action, no more welfare, no more handouts.
Oh, hai guize. It's another idiot on his 'none for thee, all for me' high horse.
All students must reach the same standards to go to high school and college. Those who fail will go to trade schools where they will learn to take pride in a days work.
Within a generation or two the weak and the worthless will have been weeded out, those with the backbone to better themselves will have integrated into a normal society
Normal is ultimately defined as what puts you on top of the food chain, correct?
Your designation of trade school as failing is wrong.
And all students cannot reach the same standards when all students are not starting at the same line.
Anyway, what I currently see:
- rampant ethnicism and nepotism
- tracking based on family
- cultural warfare regarding the nature/ appropriateness of discipline
- under-diagosed and under-treated learning disabilities
- under-reported and under-treated physical, mental and sexual abuse
- uninvolved parents/sabotaging parents
- uninvolved school districts/sabotaging school district decisions
- fraud
- who your family is being more important than your capabilities
- more tracking
- stats being more important than learning
The solution is war, pestilence and entertainment. And birth control. Not education. War establishes the order of the food chain, pestilence removes enemies of the food chain, entertainment keeps the rest of the food chain sedated, and birth control solidifies place within the food chain.
Education as you mean it is meaningless. The document attached to it may have meaning depending on the circles you move in.
Ambition matters more than education. Entertainment redirects ambition.
How ambitious are you?
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:02 pm
by ML@Coyote
Entertainment
keeps the rest of the food chain sedated is everything.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:20 pm
by ML@Coyote
schmick wrote:I will be on the side of the makers 100% of the time over the takers.
I'm pretty sure this is
not what you meant...
Makers:
Takers:
I don't want to live in Venezuela.
But I don't want to lie to myself either.
Re: Doesn't this strike y'all as odd---
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:24 am
by Screw_Michigan
Makers:
CA
NY
WA
MA
Takers:
AL
MS
GA
TN
KY
SD
ND
WY
Et al