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LTS TRN 2 wrote:
It means the jury has a clear understanding that some social justice factor is in play and the verdict will be Not Guilty, regardless of the evidence.

Except reading the details of the trial, there wasn't any evidence to support the charge of 1st degree... not even close.

While I agree with you that the prosecutors were idiots, it clearly wasn't jury nullification -- just a good old fashioned acquittal, based on mountains of reasonable doubt.

Dins, I don't think anyone with a room temp IQ or better is arguing for M1. What we are saying is that this was undoubtedly some level of manslaughter. The fact that he fired more than one round blows his "it went off accidentally" defense to shit.

The moment he squeezed off the second round, he was satisfying the "acting like a dumbfukk" or whatever it is called, that satisfies the IM requirements.

smackaholic wrote:The moment he squeezed off the second round, he was satisfying the "acting like a dumbfukk" or whatever it is called, that satisfies the IM requirements.

I agree. And the dumbass DA didn't emphasize that.

Overcharging is what the wingnuts wanted and then when it went to shit they blame libs. :?

Dinsdale wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote:
It means the jury has a clear understanding that some social justice factor is in play and the verdict will be Not Guilty, regardless of the evidence.

Except reading the details of the trial, there wasn't any evidence to support the charge of 1st degree... not even close.

While I agree with you that the prosecutors were idiots, it clearly wasn't jury nullification -- just a good old fashioned acquittal, based on mountains of reasonable doubt.

Exactly as I pointed out, but the 2nd degree as well as Involuntary Manslaughter were still options for the jury, and the prosecution seemingly laid out the clear evidence for either of those charges. The nullification, as I also pointed out, was facilitated by the (Hispanic) DA assistant who oversaw the prosecution, and duly carried out by the feckless, and anonymous jurors.

And yes, the toll booths on the Bay Bridge are completely unnecessary. In fact if you just roll through--even without the Fas Trak--the camera will register and send you a bill. The Golden Gate bridge has eliminated the booths.

Papa Willie wrote:What's the deal with Screwy & Goobs giving each other such frequent reacharounds nowadays? I thought the fags were funnier when they fought.

What's the deal with your constant fascination with gay sex?

Moving Sale wrote:Overcharging is what the wingnuts wanted and then when it went to shit they blame libs. :?

Bullshit.

That did happen during the Rodney King trial. They overcharged the goon cops in an attempt to appease the mob. Then the mob did what mobs do when things don't go their way.

In this case, any sane person knew they could not make M1 or even 2 stick. It was clearly IM.

The overcharging here was done by the only ones that it could have been done by, the DA's office. Are you implying that the SF DA's office are Trump brown shirts?

Are you really THAT fukking stupid?

The overcharging here was done on purpose, with the intent to have him walk on as much as possible, knowing it would upset us bible toting, gun carrying xenophobes.

There is ONE big difference between this and the RK fiasco. Those of us that aren't happy won't burn all our shit down. Not how we roll. What will happen is we'll remember it at voting time. And another good thing is, those in the middle, the ones that actually do determine election outcomes see this sort of shit and aren't terribly happy about it either. Some will come to the conclusion that that crazy bomb throwing orange buffoon just might be right.

smackaholic wrote: What will happen is we'll remember it at voting time.

So you moving to San Francisco so you can vote all those sanctuary-loving libtards out of office?
Better bring plenty of pocketbook when you come.

There are many Californian's who are totally against santuary politics, including many Mexican Americans who followed the procedures for immigration and citizenship.

Hence the reason I think that platform is suicidal polically. Not doing what is best for the state and country just to spite Trump is a failed policy.

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BTW -- is "involuntary manslaughter" really a thing in California?

In the parts of the country that actually speak proper English (and probably some that don't), we call that "manslaughter."

Since the lawmakers don't know what those words mean, it's not surprising they couldn't convict someone of it.

There is a difference between VM and IM no matter what the ditch digger says.

Dinsdale wrote:...we call that "manslaughter."

man's laughter

schmick wrote:

The DA is a liberal too and no liberals want to give our President a win.

Indeed, it would appear the S.F. PC mafia is so far up the ass of Critical Theory--which of course is dedicated to "deconstructing" the various institutions of oppression--that yes, they would knowingly give Trump and the brain dead Breibart nation a clear crowing victory. Why? So as to spur on the exact social discord and divisiveness that they promote with BLM, Kaepernick and so forth. And yesterday the leading defense attorney called for the dismissal of the gun possession charge. Even though they're all Hispanic, there's a hearty dose of chutzpah in this farce. And yes, the "Irish" are behind the Critical Theory movement in the larger agenda.