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[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

121 pages of scientific data.

Fully documented laser tests that were done in seven different locations, in seven different weather conditions, and guess what?

The water is laying FLAT.

121 pages of research to show that water lays flat? LOL. Well no shit, that's kinda what water does. Shooting a beam across a lake doesn't prove what you want it to prove. Lakes and oceans occupy very large containers and the water conforms to the contours of these containers. The water itself does not "bend." Gravity and surface tension are why it stays in place.

And again, you weren't there to actually witness and experience the testing, so why do you believe it? Anything found on the internet can be fabricated, edited, manipulated, etc., right? I mean, that's always the card you play when someone presents you with evidence. Why is your internet data more credible than anyone else's?

[Dinsdale]

And again, you weren't there to actually witness and experience the testing, so why do you believe it? Anything found on the internet can be fabricated, edited, manipulated, etc., right? I mean, that's always the card you play when someone presents you with evidence. Why is your internet data more credible than anyone else's?

It's what he does. When he gets his ass handed to him (like you just did to him), he'll break out the "I didn't see it with my own eyes" -- which is a very odd stance for someone who buys into the bible hook, line, and sinker.

I mean hell, look at this thread. I mentioned how he thinks the bible is a science book -- he went to the classic "link?", which I then provided multiple examples. His comeback was a strong suggestion that the study of matter beyond earth's atmosphere (and he's said there's water there too many times to count) isn't "astronomy." And a worldwide flood isn't "hydrology."

We're dealing with a special kind of autism here.

[Smackie Chan]

we know that glaciers covered large parts of the the North American continent in relatively recent times

Really? You know this? Were you there? Did you see the glaciers?

[Mikey]

we know that glaciers covered large parts of the the North American continent in relatively recent times

Really? You know this? Were you there? Did you see the glaciers?

Those same quack so-called scientists ( more properly money chasing grant whores) who are trying to foist Climate Change on us are also responsible for pushing this glacier theory. I doubt they ever existed.

[Goober McTuber]

we know that glaciers covered large parts of the the North American continent in relatively recent times

Really? You know this? Were you there? Did you see the glaciers?

Those same quack so-called scientists ( more properly money chasing grant whores) who are trying to foist Climate Change on us are also responsible for pushing this glacier theory. I doubt they ever existed.

I'm pretty sure I chipped some ice off of one of them for my first cocktail. Because I'm really old. Just ask Melty.

[Smackie Chan]

I'm pretty sure I chipped some ice off of one of them for my first cocktail.

Bet it was gross, huh?

[Softball Bat]

121 pages of research to show that water lays flat? LOL. Well no shit, that's kinda what water does.

That' right.
Maybe you should let that sink in.

[smackaholic]

we know that glaciers covered large parts of the the North American continent in relatively recent times

Really? You know this? Were you there? Did you see the glaciers?

Ask goobs.


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[Softball Bat]

‘Tart - again, what monetary gain would there be to say that the earth is a globe if it is actually some other shape?

We pay NASA 52 million dollars a day.

Poptah, I should take you to my gun range. And no, I wouldn’t make you hold the target unless you brought this subject up.

At 600 yards, you can barely see the aiming black center of the target with open sights, and it is 36 inches across and elevated and oriented perpendicular so you can at least attempt to see it. I cannot imagine how tiny it must appear from a mile away. Yet you expect to detect “curvature” that gradually changes by just under half the height of a pencil over that distance with your eyes. Ponderous.

Did you read the study report?

It is apparent that you are not up to speed on this topic.

[Softball Bat]

you expect to detect “curvature” that gradually changes by just under half the height of a pencil over that distance with your eyes.

As I said yesterday, stop posting and read the study report.
You are embarrassing yourself.


1. It isn't with eyes. It is a laser.

2. The curvature is not gradual. It accelerates, and dramatically so.

8" of curvature in the first mile.
Over 2 1/2 feet at the second mile.
6 ft at the third mile.
10 1/2 ft at the fourth mile.
16 1/2 ft at the fifth mile.
67 ft at the 10th mile.
etc...

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-ca ... t=imperial
Learn something.

[Derron]

we know that glaciers covered large parts of the the North American continent in relatively recent times

Really? You know this? Were you there? Did you see the glaciers?

Link ??

[Derron]

you expect to detect “curvature” that gradually changes by just under half the height of a pencil over that distance with your eyes.

As I said yesterday, stop posting and read the study report.
You are embarrassing yourself.


1. It isn't with eyes. It is a laser.

2. The curvature is not gradual. It accelerates, and dramatically so.

8" of curvature in the first mile.
Over 2 1/2 feet at the second mile.
6 ft at the third mile.
10 1/2 ft at the fourth mile.
16 1/2 ft at the fifth mile.
67 ft at the 10th mile.
etc...

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-ca ... t=imperial
Learn something.

What do you think that means, Poppy? At eye level, which we will graciously put at 5’7” for you, the horizon is less than 3 miles away. What do you expect to see 10 miles away?

If he borrows the midgets step stool, he can get that height up to about 6'2" maybe. Get another 2 miles or so.

[Softball Bat]

What do you think that means, Poppy? At eye level, which we will graciously put at 5’7” for you, the horizon is less than 3 miles away. What do you expect to see 10 miles away?

What I would expect to see would depend on refraction -- which varies depending on weather conditions.

You are asking a question without realizing that it is in the report.

7 laser tests done in 7 different locations and in 7 different weather conditions.
It is all thoroughly documented and summarized.

In all instances, the curvature of the globe is simply -----> NOT THERE.
The water is essentially FLAT in all instances.


So now, this is of course nothing new.
I have been posting about this for years now.

And likewise, many many others have been alerted to this, and are quite interested and curious about it.


You may remain in the DULLARD camp.
It is no skin off my nose.

The findings are there for all to see.

[Softball Bat]

Well that’s fine and dandy, but go back to basic transportation. What good would it serve anybody to drive anything with curved adjustments why they could just take a straight arrow?

What earth model are you using to make this "straight arrow" claim?

Certainly no model that I have ever claimed is the accurate model of the earth.

I don't know for sure what the earth looks like.

[Smackie Chan]

I don't know for sure what the earth looks like.

But you're certain about what it doesn't look like. Got it.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The water is essentially FLAT in all instances.

Yes, the surface of water lays flay inside of a container. We're all in agreement on this. Why are you arguing about it?

[Softball Bat]

The laser tests verify what common sense should tell us all.


For all of your life you have been told by other people to believe something completely irrational.

Now you have been alerted to basic reality.

Use your own mind and really think about what you are believing.


Do you want to show the experiment which shows water curling around the outside of a ball that is flying and spinning?

Can you find it??

Why the hell would you believe that nonsense?


Smackie and Buttsy, I have eliminated the globe as a possible earth model.
If you are happy to believe that you are there on that globe, hey, don't let me stop you.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The laser tests verify what common sense should tell us all.

I would not describe your sense as common.

For all of your life you have been told by other people to believe something completely irrational.

Says the guy who doesn't question magical sky fairies.

Now you have been alerted to basic reality.

Yes, the reality that this world is full of loons who appear normal on the surface.

Use your own mind and really think about what you are believing.

I just did, and it confirmed you're a lunatic.

Do you want to show the experiment which shows water curling around the outside of a ball that is flying and spinning?

Can you find it??

Sure. Here you go:

Why the hell would you believe that nonsense?

Science, anecdotal evidence, and personal observation.

[Softball Bat]

Science?

I showed you science.
I've been showing you science.

You will not look at it.


Rockets have been going up to space (allegedly) for 70 years.
Never once has a rocket going from land to space been filmed.

Everything is filmed, dude.

Not this??
For 70 years?

Why not?


Oh well.

[Dinsdale]

Science?

I showed you science.
I've been showing you science.

No, you showed us parlor tricks. That shit is laughable.



I can't do it anymore. 3+ years is enough (and none of this is new info for me).

Hi, Softball Bat




Guess what else bends light, moron? Gravity (but you doubt that, too). Guess what else bends light, you fucking moron -- magnetism (I assume you've used a compass before, you raving fucking idiot). You know what else bends light? Changing density of the medium it travels through.

You are, without any doubt, scientifically illiterate. To a jaw-dropping degree. Hyper-religiousness is one of the symptoms.

[Softball Bat]

lol


1. You've shown a trickle of water flowing down. The water in the laser tests is not flowing down. It is sitting lake water.

2. Where is your proof that the laser beam in the tests has been bent? Pass me a Snickers.

3. Were you there to measure the curve of the lake water -- and the laser curve as well?


You are gripping and grasping.
What a desperate wack job.


Now do something constructive...

Post the science experiment showing water clinging to the outside of a flying and spinning ball.

Mr. Science.

Where oh where can it be??


I'm waiting.

[Dinsdale]

So, after all there years, you still believe the earth's atmosphere is a vacuum, devoid of magnetism.

When you took your last breath, you disproved the former. When you last looked at a compass, you disproved the latter.

Think about it -- you've disproved YOUR OWN FUCKING SCIENCE. The mark of a truly stupid person.

P.S.: Were you there when the entire earth flooded?

[Softball Bat]

I don't claim that the world wide flood is a fact.

You on the other hand do claim that the globe is a fact.
So put it to the test.

1. You claim it is a fact that water clings to the outside of a moving, spinning ball.

Where is the science experiment to back up your fantastical claim?
Absent.


2. Not content to claim that such a fantastical notion is fact, even though no science experiment shows it to be so, the globe-zealots ratchet things up even further by claiming that not only does water cling to the outside of a flying, spinning ball, but an atmosphere surrounding the ball follows right along with the ball as it flies and spins.

Where is the science experiment to back up this fantastical claim?
Absent.


3. Yes, poptart, but see, we've been up to space, and we have thousands of images of earth.

Wow, rockets to space -- for 70 years!

Where is the video of a rocket going from land to space?
Absent.


Sorry, Dinsdale.
You see, there are lots of people like me now who are keen to all of this.
And your nonsense won't fly.

Show us the beef.



You have hand wavey concepts, razzle dazzle bullshit, insults, and ridiculous bravado.

[Dinsdale]

2. Where is your proof that the laser beam in the tests has been bent?

So, you're still maintaining that the earth's atmosphere is either A) homogeneous, or B) a vacuum.

I guess stupid people have a hard time grasping that they're stupid... because they're stupid.

[Smackie Chan]

Uh, oh. Richard Branson is part of the cabal of round erfer’s.

Certainly from that altitude there should be indisputable photos of the ice wall along the planet's edge.

[Softball Bat]

Like a pizza crust.

Yummy!


Space begins at 62 miles, so DIck came up short.


At any rate, earth to space.
Film it.

[Left Seater]

At any rate, flights. Show us anything close to a working non globe model where they fit.

[Smackie Chan]

Space begins at 62 miles.

Says who?

[Mikey]

Space begins at 62 miles.

Says who?

It must be somewhere in the Bible.
Maybe the book of Revelation?

[Smackie Chan]

It must be somewhere in the Bible.
Maybe the book of Revelation?

Numbers?

[Kierland]

The water is essentially FLAT in all instances.

Yes, the surface of water lays flay inside of a container. We're all in agreement on this. Why are you arguing about it?

88 braincells doesn't agree. He says its held in by gravity and that the molecules in the top of the pan are all equidistant from the center of the earth and therefore not flat. I wish you guys would get your stories straight.

[Kierland]

Guess what else bends light, moron? Gravity (but you doubt that, too). Guess what else bends light, you fucking moron -- magnetism (I assume you've used a compass before, you raving fucking idiot). You know what else bends light? Changing density of the medium it travels through.

You are, without any doubt, scientifically illiterate. To a jaw-dropping degree. Hyper-religiousness is one of the symptoms.

Light is a wave* so it pretty much bends itself. I think you are talking about how much it bends.

*And also a particle: If you have never seen the double slit experiment {sup nocal and cinder?} it will blow your mind.


Edited by 88 because no one seems to know how to embed a YouTube video in this bitch

[Kierland]

Mgo is wrong. The surface of water does not lay flay. I don’t even know what flay is.

When you two figure out the shape of water in a pan we can talk about the erf.

[Kierland]

Get a bigger pan.

[Kierland]

Why can’t you perceive the change? It’s over 3,300 feet long. Does it have an over 4” arch or not? It’s engineered and built to specifications not drawn in crayon and slapped together by magic.

[Softball Bat]

Space begins at 62 miles.

Says who?

The Kármán line, or Karman line, is an attempt to define a boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space.[2] This is important for legal and regulatory measures; aircraft and spacecraft fall under different jurisdictions and are subject to different treaties.

The Fédération aéronautique internationale (FAI), which is an international standard-setting and record-keeping body for aeronautics and astronautics, defines the Kármán line as the altitude of 100 kilometres (62 miles; 330,000 feet) above Earth's sea level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line



Outer space does not begin at a definite altitude above the Earth's surface. However, the Kármán line, an altitude of 100 km (62 mi) above sea level,[7][8] is conventionally used as the start of outer space in space treaties and for aerospace records keeping.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_space

[Softball Bat]

At any rate, flights. Show us anything close to a working non globe model where they fit.

You've yet to show why your globe should not be laffed right out of the room.

[Softball Bat]

The laser tests verify what common sense should tell us all.


For all of your life you have been told by other people to believe something completely irrational.

Now you have been alerted to basic reality.

Use your own mind and really think about what you are believing.


Do you want to show the experiment which shows water curling around the outside of a ball that is flying and spinning?

Can you find it??

Why the hell would you believe that nonsense?


Smackie and Buttsy, I have eliminated the globe as a possible earth model.
If you are happy to believe that you are there on that globe, hey, don't let me stop you.

You’ve yet to address the advantages/disadvantages of what good it would do to say the earth was a globe as opposed to it not being a globe.

Why?

You've yet to show any reason why a rational person should not laff in your face when you tell them that water is clinging to the outside of a spinning, flying ball.

There is NO science you can show that will back this very bizarre concept up.

I have SHOWN you the 7 laser tests.
I've also show you other similar things many times over.
The curvature is not there, dude.
Many people are keen to this now.



All I can tell you on your question is my own theory.
And this will be the extreme cliff notes version.

Here...


A flat, domed earth was the prevailing view for most of human history.

But in many decades leading up to the middle of the 1900's, "scientism" had gained tremendous footing over... religion.
And the globe had taken over as the accepted model of the earth.

Rockets began going up in the middle of the 1900's and it was discovered that we are inside a dome.
A flat, domed earth.
If the earth is flat and domed, it is pretty hard to deny that there is a Creator.

So those who discovered the truth of the matter had a choice to make.
Tell the public the truth -- that the earth is flat and domed, or keep up the ruse and perpetuate the globe deception.

They chose the 2nd option.

"Scientism" wins and religion loses
God loses.

So they think.

[Softball Bat]

The globe lovers want you to believe irrational things.
They want you to believe that water behaves as we know it does not behave.
And they have no science to back up the nonsense that they sell.




I posted this some time ago...





Click this to see the full image -----> http://archive.jsonline.com/Services/im ... pg&resize=

http://archive.jsonline.com/news/wiscon ... 50821.html


Funny, they didn't draw this according to the manner in which the earth supposedly curves.
They drew it on a flat earth, so it works.
lol

Imagine the alleged earth curvature, and what it would do to this diagram.

[Smackie Chan]

Space begins at 62 miles.

Says who?

The Fédération aéronautique internationale (FAI), which is an international standard-setting and record-keeping body for aeronautics and astronautics, defines the Kármán line as the altitude of 100 kilometres (62 miles; 330,000 feet) above Earth's sea level.[/i]

And you believe them? They believe the planet is (roughly) spherical. Why are they credible when it comes to this?