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Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:10 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Keep your cotton pickin hands off of MY socialism!
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:27 pm
by EAP
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:10 pm
Keep your cotton pickin hands off of MY socialism!
"Cotton pickin".
And you have the unmitigated gall to call our president a racist?
You hypocrite you.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:40 pm
by Kierland
EAP wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:45 am
Hey stupid? The only thing you're entitled to is life liberty and the pursuit.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Tread on other's liberty, and history will explain what happens next.
I know poor people who live to 80 and beyond.
Then there's billionaires like STEVE JOBS AND PAUL ALLEN, with the BEST possible healthcare imaginable, WHO DIE QUICKLY!
When your pathetic low IQ time is up, YOU'RE GONE!!!!
NO amount of free anything is gonna save your worthless gay ass.
Then get the fuck off the roads and send me your Social Security check you fucking POS.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:32 pm
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:40 pm
Then get the fuck off the roads and send me your Social Security check you fucking POS.
The argument that public roads=socialism, therefore, all socialism is good, is an idiotic one.
Yes, we do live in a world where it is practical to share the cost of roads, police, fire departments, etc.
And the great majority of these things can and should be handled at the state/local level. The founders understood this and specifically said that those things NOT proscribed as federal responsibilities, were up to these jurisdictions to handle.
You fukking socialists are so enamored with Norway, then do shit Norway style at the state level. Many of the states have economies larger than Norway, so it shouldn't be a problem.
As for SS, I would be more than happy to take a check right now for the amount I (and my employer) have contributed to this point, with whatever interest it would have accrued had it been invested in a DOW index fund.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:37 pm
by Kierland
smackaholic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:32 pm
Kierland wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:40 pm
Then get the fuck off the roads and send me your Social Security check you fucking POS.
The argument that public roads=socialism, therefore, all socialism is good, is an idiotic one.
Yes, we do live in a world where it is practical to share the cost of roads, police, fire departments, etc.
And the great majority of these things can and should be handled at the state/local level. The founders understood this and specifically said that those things NOT proscribed as federal responsibilities, were up to these jurisdictions to handle.
That door swings both ways. The Orange Brigade is always making blanket statements about socialism that aren’t true. As far as the founders, they realized they didn’t want the national government involved in health care and they also understood that we might. That is why the document can be amended.
Do you have any actual evidence against M4A?
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:08 pm
by EAP
Kierland wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:40 pm
EAP wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:45 am
Hey stupid? The only thing you're entitled to is life liberty and the pursuit.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Tread on other's liberty, and history will explain what happens next.
I know poor people who live to 80 and beyond.
Then there's billionaires like STEVE JOBS AND PAUL ALLEN, with the BEST possible healthcare imaginable, WHO DIE QUICKLY!
When your pathetic low IQ time is up, YOU'RE GONE!!!!
NO amount of free anything is gonna save your worthless gay ass.
Then get the fuck off the roads and send me your Social Security check you fucking POS.
Hey you low IQ maggot!!!
That arguement about roads, has zero to do with government control socialism, you fucking idiot!
We PRODUCTIVE members of society who've worked our whole lives, bought and paid for those roads you fuckin clueless cocksucker.
Since I'm more productive than you've been, YOU get the fuck off the roads and fetch me some coffee punk boy.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:38 am
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:37 pm
smackaholic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:32 pm
Kierland wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:40 pm
Then get the fuck off the roads and send me your Social Security check you fucking POS.
The argument that public roads=socialism, therefore, all socialism is good, is an idiotic one.
Yes, we do live in a world where it is practical to share the cost of roads, police, fire departments, etc.
And the great majority of these things can and should be handled at the state/local level. The founders understood this and specifically said that those things NOT proscribed as federal responsibilities, were up to these jurisdictions to handle.
That door swings both ways. The Orange Brigade is always making blanket statements about socialism that aren’t true. As far as the founders, they realized they didn’t want the national government involved in health care and they also understood that we might. That is why the document can be amended.
Do you have any actual evidence against M4A?
Then get to ammendin', sparky!
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:07 am
by Kierland
So you admit your argument is shit.
Do you have any valid arguments?
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:13 am
by smackaholic
No, I do not admit it. I think that EVERYTHING that needs to be done by government ought to be done at the lowest level of government that is practical.
It a state or a county votes that they should implement a single payer healthcare system, they should have that right. Those that don't like such a system, can opt out, or move.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:57 am
by Innocent Bystander
smackaholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:13 am
No, I do not admit it. I think that EVERYTHING that needs to be done by government ought to be done at the lowest level of government that is practical.
It a state or a county votes that they should implement a single payer healthcare system, they should have that right. Those that don't like such a system, can opt out, or move.
Single payer at that low of a level would be a nightmare implementing. Just redistribute some of that Space Corps Navy money (who are we prepping to fight in space?) and foreign aid money to citizens, nationally. A single rule for all to follow.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:43 am
by Innocent Bystander
schmick wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:12 am
Want free health care, join the military. Now stfu. If someone else has to work to provide it for you, you have no right to it. Republicans already defeated slavery
Military healthcare is not free. But I'm glad you brought it up. Why hasn't the 2nd Amendment been interpreted as every citizen being required to serve in their state's militia, as a condition of citizenship?
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:55 pm
by Innocent Bystander
88 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:12 pm
Innocent Bystander wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:43 am
Why hasn't the 2nd Amendment been interpreted as every citizen being required to serve in their state's militia, as a condition of citizenship?
Probably because that would be contrary to the definition of the word "militia":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia
Words mean whatever we want them to mean. What culturally prohibits an interpretation of the 2nd to mean mandatory citizen-soldier training?
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:20 pm
by smackaholic
Innocent Bystander wrote:smackaholic wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:13 am
No, I do not admit it. I think that EVERYTHING that needs to be done by government ought to be done at the lowest level of government that is practical.
It a state or a county votes that they should implement a single payer healthcare system, they should have that right. Those that don't like such a system, can opt out, or move.
Single payer at that low of a level would be a nightmare implementing. Just redistribute some of that Space Corps Navy money (who are we prepping to fight in space?) and foreign aid money to citizens, nationally. A single rule for all to follow.
Bullshit. Any state has enough people in it to implement such a system. Canada does it provincially and they are much smaller, population-wise than most states.
You commies like to point to economy of scale when it comes to healthcare. This is a BS argument. Individual healthcare is not done on a production line. It is INDIVIDUAL.
There are some things such as drug purchases which are helped, but for the most part, caring for 100 individuals costs roughly the same per person as caring for 100,000 does.
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Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:26 pm
by smackaholic
As for who we are “preparing to fight”, that is unknown.
Who were we preparing to fight after WWI?
Nobody, that’s who. We had just won the “war to end all wars”.
I am not saying we don’t waste a shit-ton of money, militarily. We surely do. Why the fukk we have the numbers we do in Germany and Korea is beyond me.
If I were King, we’d still spend a lot and we’d have a kick ass, well practiced military, but most of them would be here, supporting our economy, not Germany’s.
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Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:26 pm
by smackaholic
And they sure as fukk wouldn’t be in Afghanistan.
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Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:31 pm
by Carson
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:39 pmWe are the only developed planet on the face of the earth
Way to go, Mr. Pulitzer.
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Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:10 pm
by Kierland
schmick wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:12 am
Want free health care, join the military. Now stfu. If someone else has to work to provide it for you, you have no right to it. Republicans already defeated slavery
And then they all moved to the Ds. You really are a fucking POS.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:00 pm
by The State
Kierland wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:10 pm
schmick wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:12 am
Want free health care, join the military. Now stfu. If someone else has to work to provide it for you, you have no right to it. Republicans already defeated slavery
And then they all moved to the Ds. You really are a fucking POS.
I'd like to say I'm shocked that "the Mexican" is this stupid.
But I'm not.
Re: A health care system worth preserving
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:07 pm
by EAP
schmick wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:28 pm
Obviously, look at all of the cunts running around trying to make national socialists and fascists "right wing" when government control has always been a pillar of leftism
HOF POST.
The funny thing is that the left wing socialists on this board are way too stupid to understand what you just said.
And what you said is historically 100% correct.