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Poor little guy. At least he won The Peoples' Choice National Title.

We all play in the same system. I'd never bitch if I got left out of the title game if I was undefeated. I wouldn't bitch about the voters or the media hypocrisy. I'd only bitch that, yeah, we need a playoff. I feel that now though.

He's right though about ESPN and their "analysts". Kinda the same philosophy with teachers.

Those who can't do, teach. (sorry Lax )

Those who can't coach, analyze.

As much time I was watch ESPN per week, I somewhat agree w/ him. They have 3 sets of studio guys who dont bring much credibility to the table. I think Herbstreit is awesome at what he does but I think that Corso is there only for shock value and that he is only right on his predictions 50% of the time. Mark May sucks. Lou Holtz talk like he is on Cialis. ESPN does have a lot of power when it comes to the media, but they big bucks and they showcase a lot of the game as well.

Rack Tuberville! It's refreshing to hear a coach or player speak his mind, even if it is perceived as a whiney meltdown.

It's not refreshing when it's already been done by the same guy.

Eh, it's entertaining to hear a guy sound off. Better than a bunch of cliches.

What's whiney about speaking his mind, speaking up for his team. I'll take that any day over a string of politically correct
'coach speak".

Believe the Heupel wrote:Lou Holtz couldn't beat anyone in the SEC?

Didn't he run a pretty successful Arkansas program in the SEC? Or was that before they moved from the SWC?

Lou had long since left Arkansas when it went to the SEC.

For the most part, it's true.

If you have four teams undefeated and teams A and B start 1 and 2 or even just in the top 5 and the other 2 start out maybe 15th and 18th respectively.....there is NO WAY to get into the title game. The system is completely fucked.

I would assume after a second straight year an undefeated SEC team is left watching; the powers at be will start to dismantle. I actually heard on the radio that behind the scenes the SEC is wanting to blow it up. WHat to replace it with? Not sure.

top to bottom: Tubberville, Trixy

Dude, you're just some kid. I realize that now. It's okay. You act about 20-22 years old. Probably don't know shit. You follow my posts around contributing nothing making insult after insult. DUDE, BRING SOMETHING TO THE BOARD BESIDES IMMATURE INSULTS.

Seriously, a take worth a shit would be nice. Carry on.

You never answered me on how old you are. I imagine its because you are a young punk. AT least you act like one.

I would hate to think any USC alums have any influence over broadcasters. Or Hollywood. Or INSERT ENTERTAINMENT MEDIA HERE.

Dude has a right to be pissed, his team went undefeated in the SEC and got NOTHING. Right now it looks like the same could easily happen to VT, GA, or Bama and he is making his feelings known. Somehow I doubt USC fans would consider it whining if the shoe was on the other foot.

T REX wrote:You never answered me on how old you are. I imagine its because you are a young punk. AT least you act like one.

Well, you don't know how old he is because he didn't start bragging on a message board that he played against Tommie Frazier in high school.

Danimal wrote:Dude has a right to be pissed, his team went undefeated in the SEC and got NOTHING. Right now it looks like the same could easily happen to VT, GA, or Bama and he is making his feelings known. Somehow I doubt USC fans would consider it whining if the shoe was on the other foot.

Maybe they should have scheduled some teams that weren't directional schools or DIAA, Danimal.

RACK Tuberville for his backhanded comments at Holtz and Corso. He is dead on about ESPN.

Nobody likes a whiner. This kind of public outcry by him will come back to haunt him.

Jimmy Medalions wrote:Nobody likes a whiner. This kind of public outcry by him will come back to haunt him.

A lot of people disagree with you. Does that make you a bad person? Does that mean you should be ridiculed or insulted? No. It's called a DIFFERENT opinion. Notice how everyone else handled themselves?

Try it sometime.

"It's done," Tuberville said. "The national media, led by ESPN, wants to see Vince Young vs. Matt Leinart in the championship game. It's going to be those two teams unless Texas or USC get upset.

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"Last year, they wanted to see the two Heisman Trophy quarterbacks, Jason White and Leinart. After six or seven games, we were out of it.

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"If four teams are undefeated at the end of the season, there should be a playoff. There should've been one last year. But it's decided already. I don't like it."

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"ESPN has gotten so much power lately, it's kinda scary," Tuberville said. "And most of their analysts are coaches who haven't won any games. That's why they're there. I think you know who I'm talking about.

"And Lou Holtz gets on there and talks about what a team has to do win that game, and the guy couldn't beat anybody in our conference. These guys will come talk to you and look you straight in the eye and tell you something, then they'll get on the air and say something else.

"ESPN, I'll tell you, I don't have much to do with them anymore."

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"I guess he was kicking out his frustrations," Tuberville said, referring to Vaughn's five missed field-goal attempts Saturday night. "He's sick about it. He's a good kicker. He just had one of those nights. We all have them. And you'll never hear or read about this, but the wind on that field was swirling. It was a guessing game as to where to kick the ball. But he'll recover."

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Meds, Did TTub say anything that wasnt true in that article? Just wonderin'

Ps. Rack TTub for flicking off ESPN Johnny Cash style.

Let me ask you a question T. Say you're the best man for a buddy of yours, and you think the girl he's marrying is a kunt.

Assume it is entirely factual that she is a kunt. On that basis, is it acceptable to tell him that she's a kunt?

Or, do let it go because it's a foregone conclusion that the girl is gonna marry your buddy and learn to live with it?

While true that Tubby's meltdown was littered with factual statements, and struck a chord with me personally on the idiots at ESPN, it was inappropriate.

It may feel good to the fans and players that he said this, but in the long run it will do more damage than good. This is just an extension of the whining that was done a year ago, for right or wrong, and it will give him a negative tag in the media. He essentially told the media to fuck off in that rant. The media doesn't like to be told that.

If I was the AD at Auburn, I don't think I'd be too thrilled with his comments. There is a better way to go about this. Probably starts with not scheduling D II directionals.

Oh I agree.

It was not in his or Auburns best interest.

But it needed to be said.

Have you seen the quotes on ESPN? Fuck No! Because it is fucking true.

You won't see the quotes on ESPN and you can expect it to affect their coverage of Auburn going forward.

These kinds of statements probably should have come from the SEC at the top, not from an individual program or coach. There again, a catch 22 because ESPN has a contract with the SEC.

What Tubby is complaining about filters all the way back to that overrated tOSU team (sup buckeye_in_sc ) from a few years ago. How mahy games did they win by 5 or less?

By virtue of their early preaseason ranking, their winning streak kept them in play all the way to a BCS title game.

I've always said that the best way to fix college football isn't to do a playoff. That would remove too much from what makes the game so great. Instead. preseason rankings should be abolished by the AP and the Coaches until we're 3-5 games into the season.

Probably hurts my team this season if that happens, but it's the right way to handle this. Auburn got burned last year because they started too low and scheduled teams that weren't compelling enough to warrant huge moves upward.

That's how I see it. BTW, I still think the BCS is bullshit. You can't base National Champions year after year on a system that continues to change.

Get rid of preseason polls and add an extra game when needed.

Last year: Auburn vs. Utah winner vs. USC
Two years ago LSU vs. USC
and so on...

Yep. Works for me.

Jimmy Medalions wrote:What Tubby is complaining about filters all the way back to that overrated tOSU team (sup buckeye_in_sc) from a few years ago. How many games did they win by 5 or less?

By virtue of their early preaseason ranking, their winning streak kept them in play all the way to a BCS title game.

Bad example. OSU started 2002 ranked 12th and they still made it to the Fiesta Bowl. Not exactly the same as a current-season Texas or USC, who both were in the Top 5 before a game was even played.

And BTW, Ohio State won 7 games by a touchdown or less that year.

[DarkHelmetvoiceover] Fucking clutch, and you knowwwww it. [/DarkHelmetvoiceover]

My bad if they were 12th, but it's certainly true that the teams with the most preseason hype are the ones with the best chances.

When did tOSU move up? I vaguely remember that they were sitting at the top for a period fo time when it seemed, based on margin of victory, that many expected them to get passed up.

Jimmy-- I think you're thinking of the '03 season, the year after OSU won the NC. They were preseason #3 or #4, and that's where the argument between you and us Buckeye fans initially ensued.

You argued that their ranking was based strictly on prior season's result, and guys like me & _sc were saying it was justified, based on the fact that OSU was winning (close games) in the same fashion as they did when they won it all. Looking back, I still think it could be argued either way. True, OSU lost two games that year, but for having absolutely zero running game (thanks Clarett) and a suspect passing game, we still won another BCS game. :roll:

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Ahh... the past.

I mean, the present.

Tubs is speaking the truth. Funny to hear a trojan fan mock that since for two seasons straight they were crying the same sad song. Funny what a little love does for one's logic.

The bottom line is with as many unbeatens as their are now, we shouldn't have already decided who is in the damned title game before the season is even close to completed...and barring a trojan or UT loss, we have. Major bullshit, since Va Tech is looking like probably the best in the nation and the Trojans don't even really look top 2 in my opinion.

^^^ Slow day err season at the dot net? ^^^

I guess. I don't think anyone has posted in the CFB forum there since season 1. :cry:

Spinach Genie wrote:Funny to hear a trojan fan mock that since for two seasons straight they were crying the same sad song.

Two seasons? Revisionist history, much? You might have that argument for one season and only with some trojan fans. I won't even say nice try, because it wasn't.

the Trojans don't even really look top 2 in my opinion.

Still bitter. For shame.

I have liked TT since he made the "jr. high offense" crack about PSU after whooping the Lions in the Cap 1 bowel. Dude's definitely got some spunk. I tend to agree with his general point on this, as well. Were his team a legitimate contender for the title again this year, the comments might carry some more weight.

Personally, I think USC is totally deserving of a high ranking. I think the minute someone ties their shoes wrong, or that they aren't clicking like the best offense ever seen, folks are lined up out the door to announce that they are on the way down.

That's what makes backing a top contender interesting.

Jimmy Medalions wrote: Two seasons? Revisionist history, much? You might have that argument for one season and only with some trojan fans. I won't even say nice try, because it wasn't.

Two. After the '02 season, several Trojan fans and Cali pubs were bitching USC could beat any of the championship contenders and '03 was one of the biggest cryfests the BCS system has yet seen.

Still bitter. For shame.

Two games. Notre Dame. Overrated, and you still needed last minute heroics to pull that one out. A late pull away against an average ASU squad would be the only other real quality win USC has as far as I can tell...except maybe the mighty ducks. :roll:

USC is a great team, but don't act like the media isn't taking every opportunity to shove the trojan schlong into their holes. Watch an ESPN gameday and get back to me. Tuberville was right and the only reason you Trojan bitches are tossing around the "bitter" tag is because you are the current media fucktoy. How freshly I recall the bitterness against LSU...

You want to talk about Arizona State? The team LSU was lucky to beat thanks to special teams mistakes?

Let's talk about the mighty SEC for a moment. What did we do to Arkansas? Yep, we hung 70 on them. And what did Georgia do to them? They won by a field goal. At home, no less.

And sorry BitterGenie, but it wasn't two years of whining. You can make shit up to support your argument but I'm not buying it. If that's what you SEC Okies want to believe then that's your problem, not ours. Try scheduling a non-DII, non-directional for a change. Even better, try leaving the south sometime. Wait a minute...you did that and lost. That's right.

And thanks for saying ND was overrated. I'm sure if Auburn is lucky enough to be even close against Alabama, you'll conveniently-forget the above remark and say "well, in rivalry games you can throw records out the window".

Got it.

as far as I can tell

This just about sums it all up.

You're usually a better poster than this. I didn't think myopia was an issue for you.

Myopia? First, you played Ark very early, did you not? New QB for ARK, right? Do you think that over time a team usually gets better as the season progresses especially if they are playing many new starters? Just answer yes or no please.

Also, do you think that UGA losing their senior starting QB would make a difference? Yes or no only please.

And since when is a 2-5 team MIGHTY in any conference? Thought so.

Myopic indeed.

Explain how ND is "overrated" and what they can do to lose that tag. They've kicked the shit out of 2 teams that were supposed to beat them (Pitt and Purdue, who both turned out to be horrible), beat a team on the road they were supposed to lose to (Michigan, who is overrated), crushed two teams they should have (Washington and BYU), lost to one team they shouldn't have in OT (MSU) and took the #1 team in the country to the wire. A team that is trying to be the first 3 peat winner in the sports history, and a team that has two of the top Heisman contenders, including last years winner.

So, how exactly are they fucking "overrated"? Because the teams they've played have sucked? Give it a fucking rest. Overrated may be a team that can't hit a fucking field goal to save their life, or that schedules 1AA teams as part of their OCC.

ND is not overrated. They played a hell of a game against SC, and they've looked impressive, even in the loss to MSU.

Just an observation, but was Genie calling ND "overrated" or USC? It looks like USC.

Genie wants to cite two games for USC, ND and ASU. It appears that Genie is saying that USC is overrated because USC barely beat ND and ASU is seemingly the only other quality opponent.

Like I said, just an observation.