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Yea so did that one PAC 10 school that went there.

Still waiting for Texas to play a real team.

Thanks.

meds: You are literally one dumb bitch. We had this conversation last time and you ducked it as usual. I am still trying to find out whther you even have your driver's license yet.

Just answer ONE question........

Is 3-5 mighty? I asked you the same about Arkansas when you said "mighty SEC" to describe them as well. You dodged it the last time. I wonder why? Because you know that Tenn is a crappy team. Hey, nice win over Mighty Stanford........yeah that sounds stupid doesn't it?

Grow the fuck up and get some new material. Karma's on its way. Dumped your bitch ass partner yesterday. Clock is ticking........

isn't tOSU a real team?


actually Tenn has the defense to be an above average team...losing Riggs and their shitty special teams is one of the major problems...


although they are a fumble away on the 3 yard line from beating Bama...

the one team I am not sold on it Bama...they skate by MSU, Ole Miss, etc and everyone thinks they are the shit...

buckeye_in_sc wrote:isn't tOSU a real team?

They have gotten better, but struggled early on to find an identity. By many accounts, tOSU should have beaten Texas in the big game.

The Big 10 seems to be having an off year. Look, when some of the better teams are Northwestern, Sparty and Minnesota....and no I'm not hating on the Big 10...big fan personally. I just happen to think the Big 12 is down this year and Texas hasn't been tested.

We'll see.

dude, pick up a paper once in a while.

Sparty is their usual joke of the conference. Northwestern hasn't beaten anybody, and Minnie has one good win.

The strength of the Big10 is PSU. Then OSU, and in a couple weeks UM will be near the top.

Was it really necessary for me to mention PSU? To do so would be stating the obvious. The point is that there is a significant dropoff after them.

tOSU may very well be the second team in the conference, but I think most Buckeye fans would tell you they're having an off year.

The ones I know in California certainly do. And I don't need to "pick up a paper" to know this.

Any SC/Pac10 fan would be the expert in dropoffs considering the dreadful state of their conference.

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T REX wrote:meds: You are literally one dumb bitch. We had this conversation last time and you ducked it as usual. I am still trying to find out whther you even have your driver's license yet.

Just answer ONE question........

Is 3-5 mighty? I asked you the same about Arkansas when you said "mighty SEC" to describe them as well. You dodged it the last time. I wonder why? Because you know that Tenn is a crappy team. Hey, nice win over Mighty Stanford........yeah that sounds stupid doesn't it?

Grow the fuck up and get some new material. Karma's on its way. Dumped your bitch ass partner yesterday. Clock is ticking........

Jimmy "the kid": Your new nic. Try to respond to the football take instead of the drive by you are so accustomed too nowadays. Try to be a man.

well 10 points away from being a #2 in the BCS...sure tOSU should have won the game against UT, but he let's face it that was an epic game and UT was tested on the road up early, down middle to late, then pulled it out...tOSU fan can talk about missed opportunities all we want but in the end 25 > 22 nuff said...

Texas may or may not have been tested since then, but they have started slow in some games (like SC has) see Okie State game, and OU game for the first quarter or so, but in the end they turn on the jets and get it done (a la SC)...I think a UT/SC matchup would be a great one (playing UT, but watching a lot of SC thanks GamePlan) tells me that would be a great game...! I think SC might have the early edge if I had to break it down now, but who knows...Texas still has to get by A&M and the B12 championship game, then SC still has UCLA and KAL...oh wait forget those two...


anyway I think tOSU wins out and gets an at large BCS berth to face off against either ND in the Sugar or the ACC winner...IMHO...

^^^not so fast my friend.

I think the at large are going to the Irish and Bama. I am hoping for one to go to OSU just to make Texas look that much better. A lot depends on what happens with LSU and Miami, are they now in the drivers seat for the ACC championship game or is that still with FSU?

Pencil Miami in. USC or Texas should pray that one or the other does not lose. Bama will lose in the SEC title game to UGA or UF. Miami may be playing teh best defense anywhere on teh planet rigth now. I will take a strong defense anyday in a title game.

come on steve at least put up a picture of the pencil corso uses... :D


well i think bama loses to Auburn and then in the SEC championship game...just my opinion...

as for the ACC not sure...Miami is in the drivers seat for the one side of it on the other side I think Va Tech still has the edge...

for ND to secure an at-large for sure I believe they have to be ranked in the top 6 of the BCS??? someone correct me if I am wrong...

Miami/Tech are in the same division.

Miami will play FSU for the ACC crown. Are you saying that Tech will get a BCS spot?

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no just wasn't sure about Va Tech and Miami in the same division...

so FSU vs Miami in the ACC Championship game...hmmm...

Gotcha. FSU fan has to be looking pretty down right now. At Clempson next week followed by AT UF, then most likely Miami in Jax.

buckeye_in_sc wrote:for ND to secure an at-large for sure I believe they have to be ranked in the top 6 of the BCS??? someone correct me if I am wrong...

ND secures an at-large bid with a Top 6 ranking. ND also can be considered for an at-large bid ranked 7-12, but there are no guarantees for them in that situation.

Btw, assuming that the SEC champ isn't playing in the Rose Bowl, ND and tOSU can't match up in the Sugar Bowl. The only possibility, assuming USC and Texas finish 1-2 and in the Rose Bowl, for a ND-tOSU matchup would be in the Fiesta Bowl.

ND in the Fiesta Bowl? Hmmmmmm, may have to make that roadie.

T REX wrote:Pencil Miami in. USC or Texas should pray that one or the other does not lose. Bama will lose in the SEC title game to UGA or UF. Miami may be playing teh best defense anywhere on teh planet rigth now. I will take a strong defense anyday in a title game.

At this point I welcome a shot at USC, Miami or anyone else that thinks they can go toe-to-toe.

As good as the Miami D is playing I still think the Texas D is better. Not that beating the pants off the B-12 cupcakes gives us a chance to show what they can do, but they are seriously starting to come together and really get Chizik's schemes down. If national awards and any indication then Texas is sitting pretty. The Texas Defense is well represented in all the National awards with Michael Huff, Aaron Harris, Rod Wright, and Tm Crowder all up for various honors.

I guess you don't put much stock in national awards.

I personally put stock in the fact that Gene Chizik has these guys under constant pressure to perform. Any starter is liable to lose his starting position if he does not perform. It's happened to Larry Dibbles and a couple of our linebackers. To the Texas defense its not all focus on the next opponent, but staying ahead of the guy behind you. This also inspires the 2nd-3rd string to play harder in practice because they know if they prove they are better they will start. I've heard many starters say that the toughest part of their week is practice, games are the fun part.

1. UT has quit on the great pumpkin and have sucked all year.

2. Bama hasn't scored an offensive TD in 3 games. They're living on borrowed time. It will either be LSU or Auburn in the championship game.

3. Texas, much like OK, will be slaughtered in the Rose Bowl. They are far too reliant on one player and USC will expose that.

I just think it'd be funny as hell to witness Vito's reaction once it became clear to him that another season of Big XII opponents (plus an early season OSU team that really doesn't have much of an offense anyway) had in fact in no way prepared Texas for what USC is going to unload on them come January 4th...

Texas Fan is honking away over Vince Young and a totally untested D, neither of which will mean jack once they come up against the Real Thing.

Other than Bob Stoops nobody in the Big XII has ever even seen balanced weapons and execution of the type that's going to also destroy Texas.

It was different though with OU. There, guys like DiT, Ouskull and Frozen Sooner and some of the others, hey, those were normal, rabid fans who nevertheless always showed plenty of class and humility when the time would come...

No excuses, no woulda/coulda/shouldas. They came in afterwards and simply gave it up to USC, and to LSU the previous year.

You just know Vito won't.

While it'll be plainly evident to everyone else that the one dimensional Texas offense (their "passing game" is prehistoric by USC/Pac 10 standards) got swallowed up by an equally fast and much more Big Game Experienced USC defense Vito will beg to differ. He'll point to some non sequitous Total Yards Passing/Rushing stats to bolster his argument that all those useless yards proved Texas really was in the game and if they just woulda stayed with their running game they could've eventually wore down USC. (Nevermind that they had to abandon their running game after they fell behind 30-7 at halftime....in large part due to more Vince Young turnovers....and, unfortunately for good ol' Vince, USC didn't shit themselves in the second half like Taco Tech.)

While it'll be plainly evident to everyone else that USC's offense quickly and easily exposed the Texas D as yet another Big XII paper tiger by scoring an easy 44 on 'em Vito will harp that the Texas D simply didn't follow Gene Chizik's schemes well enough and if it weren't for a few missed tackles and the suddenly inept Texas offense constantly giving up field position, hey.....fuck!!

He's going to come in afterwards and say Texas was still the better team but they simply got outcoached and Mack Brown's solely to blame, yada yada...

His face is going to match his jersey color, and it's going to be classic.

Vito Corleone wrote:I guess you don't put much stock in national awards.

You mean like Heismans, and Outland Trophy Awards, and all those other highly reliable barometers of Bowl Game performances?

Oh, wait. In USC's case those awards actually do seem to go to guys who show up big in the biggest games. Otherwise, most of those awards mean nothing come Bowl Season.

I personally put stock in the fact that Gene Chizik has these guys under constant pressure to perform.

Right. Other D Coordinators don't put constant pressure on their players to perform. Just Texas. It's some new, revolutionary concept.

Any starter is liable to lose his starting position if he does not perform.

The Texas D also invented blue skies and wet water too, huh?

It's happened to Larry Dibbles and a couple of our linebackers.

That's fucking shocking. Who could ever imagine such a thing?? That's, like, the first time a starter ever lost his job, innit?

Fucking Henry Ford O' The Gridiron, that Gene Chizik!

To the Texas defense its not all focus on the next opponent, but staying ahead of the guy behind you.

~Knock me over with a feather. This must be how it must've felt to be around Einstein when he was first musing about time and space and stuff...~

This also inspires the 2nd-3rd string to play harder in practice because they know if they prove they are better they will start.

Wait!!! BACK THAT BUS UP!

Are you trying to tell me that the way they do things there DITHOT (Deep In The Heart Of Texas) is like this: Play hard, and play well, or risk losing your starting gig to your back up, a guy whose sole mission in life is to hopefully take your spot in the lineup??

That's how Texas manages to fill their roster, by filling the heads of their back up players with crazy notions of one day getting on the field during meaningful portions of the game??

Dude.....take me to your fucking leader.

I've heard many starters say that the toughest part of their week is practice, games are the fun part.

Now you're just making shit up. You're stretching the limits of credulity here, chief. Nobody's ever said that before!! Uh uh. No way. Nobody ever says that, much less guys whose "games" are played against terror inducing monoliths like Okie State and Baylor.

Did they really say that?

Okay, screw it. They must be too good. We forfeit.

yawn

Hey Van wake me when you have an original thought.

Van - do you watch college football...?

while I make no excuses for the tOSU vs texas game...ask texas fan if they thought that game was as easy as they thought? ask tOSU fan if they thought that was going to be a walk in the park? Both sides would tell you HELL FUCKING NO...that was an epic game played by two tradition rich, storied programs...that game was part defensive battle, opportune offensive plays, and tOSU's in ability to score TD's...but in the end it was a FUCKING AWESOME game...

now you are saying that the tOSU offense didn't prepare texas for what might come on Jan 4th...but I'll tell you the tOSU defense prepared texas for what won't come on a Jan 4th and that is a bitchslapping USC defense...also not sure if you do watch any college football but in the last 3 weeks tOSU has rolled up 40+ points and close to or over 500 yards, plus we dropped 31 on Cryowa...

how many teams have scored 22 points on Texas this year? I don't seem to recall too many...

look this is texas fan and USC fans argument right now...and I did say I would give SC the edge at this very moment if I had to break the game down, but there is a lot of football between now and Jan 4th and things can change...

Van is a tard who gets his football knowledge from listening to Sports radio and the USC circle-Jerk sites. I doubt he has had an original thought on the subject since he got here.

My favorite line of his is that the Texas passing offense is prehistoric by pac 10 standards when it was Norm Chow who was consulted by the Texas staff over the summer on how to improve it. I sure am glad we were able to thaw him out in time for this season.

BTW I willing to bet that these epic takes will somehow find their way onto the Jim Rome show as Van decides to call in and let the whole world know the kind of smack he can run.

You go Van, BTW I suggest memorizing and not reading, Jim doesn't like it when its read.

Jimmy Medalions wrote:tOSU may very well be the second team in the conference, but I think most Buckeye fans would tell you they're having an off year.

The ones I know in California certainly do. And I don't need to "pick up a paper" to know this.

As far as the W/L column, yes it is a "down" year. Most of us expected OSU, even with a loss to Texas, to be in the NC hunt at season's end. We're not, and that's unfortunate as a fan, but I still like what I'm seeing out of them. We're still a legit top ten team who could sneak into a BCS bowl.

Vito Corleone wrote:Van is a tard who gets his football knowledge from listening to Sports radio and the USC circle-Jerk sites.

I've never been on a single USC site in my life. On the other hand, I'm guessing you can't say the same about Texas sites.

Sports radio? Huh? Where do you get this stuff?

On the other hand, where do you get your "knowledge"? Are you sitting in on Monday mornings in Austin, breaking down film with the secondary?

No. You're getting whatever you know in the same manner everyone else here gets theirs: TV, papers and watching the games. I'd wager though that you spend much more time on CF message boards than I do, since this is the only one I frequent and you KNOW you can't say the same.

I doubt he has had an original thought on the subject since he got here.

This, from a guy who just threw out a whole series of pathetic cliches. Better yet, you thought those stupid points you just made were not only relevant but even unique to Texas.

Remember, Texas is under pressure to perform and their practices are more difficult than their games and if their starters don't perform they can get replaced by their back ups.

There's your idea of compelling "original" thoughts.

My favorite line of his is that the Texas passing offense is prehistoric by pac 10 standards when it was Norm Chow who was consulted by the Texas staff over the summer on how to improve it.

And this doesn't prove my point, how??? Notice that Carroll didn't call up Texas over the summer to consult with them? I think there's a comparison and a conclusion that can be drawn here, and how you're managing to miss it is just incredible to me.

BTW I willing to bet that these epic takes will somehow find their way onto the Jim Rome show as Van decides to call in and let the whole world know the kind of smack he can run.

You're completely reaching now. I've never called a radio show and in fact I used to have fun ragging in JiFR for reading his crap on air.

Just go ahead and run up the white flag now and be done with it.

You go Van, BTW I suggest memorizing and not reading, Jim doesn't like it when its read.

Another sterling example of your originality, I take it...

buckeye/in/sc, yes I watch CF. Do you read what's written or do you just have knee jerk reactions to what you think was written?

See, I never said OSU wasn't a good team. What I said was that even though OSU is the only good team Texas played this season their early season offense wasn't much of an offense anyway and that it certainly in no way prepared Texas for what USC is going to bring to the table on January 4th.

Do you disagree? Do you really think that playing a Jim Tressell led offense (especially this year, early in the year) is akin to playing USC's offense this year in a Bowl Game? If so then I have to wonder if you watch any CF...

Most of us expected OSU, even with a loss to Texas, to be in the NC hunt at season's end. We're not, and that's unfortunate as a fan, but I still like what I'm seeing out of them.

Rack that. You guys are damn close to being undefeated, when you think about it. You're a few plays away against UT, and a drive away against PSU. Things could easily have gone the other way for OSU this year.

Agree with Dave. tOSU is real close to being a top bcs contender right now. They're probably a few offensive players away from being a dominant bcs contender, actually. 20% more offense and they're a downright scary team.

And why is nobody talking about PSU???

They're the least talked about one loss team out there and they're what, one play away from being undefeated?

I sure as hell would take PSU over 'Bama on a neutral field and I think I'd also take 'em over a one loss LSU team.

Van wrote:And why is nobody talking about PSU???

I think there is a perception on the national level that the Big 10 is down this year. For right or wrong it has people disenchanted with the conference and PSU.

I think it's great that they're back and they are going to kick the shit out of someone in a bowl game.

PSUFAN wrote:You guys are damn close to being undefeated, when you think about it. You're a few plays away against UT, and a drive away against PSU. Things could easily have gone the other way for OSU this year.

Exactly. All those types of things did go our way a few years back, and it was great. I'm just glad the fan base doesn't coach the team cuz the wheels would have flown off after the Penn State game. The coaching staff has kept the team focused and, despite the early offensive woes, it appears Tressel has re-righted the ship (knock on wood)-- grant it, vs. Indiana, Minnesota, & Illinois ( ).

The only bad thing about this trend, is that OSU has early non-conference games vs. Texas, USC, Miami, & VaTech in the coming seasons. Slow offensive development (as the season goes on) will not be acceptable even if our defense continues to keep us in striking distance (yes, see Texas and PSU games this year).

Jimmy Medalions wrote: I think it's great that they're back and they are going to kick the shit out of someone in a bowl game.

I would love to see a ND-PSU Fiesta bowl.

If all teams were playing today, it would be USC, Miami and everyone else.

PSUFAN wrote:

Most of us expected OSU, even with a loss to Texas, to be in the NC hunt at season's end. We're not, and that's unfortunate as a fan, but I still like what I'm seeing out of them.

Rack that. You guys are damn close to being undefeated, when you think about it. You're a few plays away against UT, and a drive away against PSU. Things could easily have gone the other way for OSU this year.

Sincerely,
MSU fan.

DrDetroit wrote:

PSUFAN wrote:

Most of us expected OSU, even with a loss to Texas, to be in the NC hunt at season's end. We're not, and that's unfortunate as a fan, but I still like what I'm seeing out of them.

Rack that. You guys are damn close to being undefeated, when you think about it. You're a few plays away against UT, and a drive away against PSU. Things could easily have gone the other way for OSU this year.

Sincerely,
MSU fan.

I'm not surprised that you can't understand being contented with a damn good effort by your team.

Personally, I think PSU's well regarded nationally right now. As opposed to other years, I don't feel as if they are overrated, either. Someone made the comment that given the way things had been going for PSU since the 2000 season, Paterno might be a Coach of the Year candidate for going 9(10?)-1 this year. I'm not so sure about that, but it sure has shocked the hell out of me. I'm happily anticipating a good bowl matchup with or without a Big 10 championship.