Raydahs vs. Chief - its on Part II
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:44 pm
As reported on FOX Sports:
Team Report: Inside Slant
Inside Slant
Whether it's karma, bad luck or something more insidious, the Oakland Raiders can't seem to put themselves on the good side of an official's whistle.
Particularly when the opponent is the Kansas City Chiefs.
The Raiders played the victim again Sunday.
It was second-and-3 at the Kansas City 47-yard line with 34 seconds to play. Oakland led 23-20. Defensive end Tommy Kelly recorded his third sack of the game against Trent Green, pushing the Chiefs back to the 40 where they faced a third-and-10.
Also in on the play was defensive tackle Ed Jasper, who was grappling with Chiefs guard Will Shields. Green wound up being forced over Jasper's legs, a flag flew, and the Raiders were called for tripping.
Instead of third-and-10 at their own 40, the Chiefs had first-and-10 at the 50 with the clock stopping with 27 seconds remaining.
Green hit a 13-yard out pattern to Eddie Kennison, found Larry Johnson sneaking behind a Raiders 5-man rush for a 36-yard gain to the 1, and then finished it off with a 1-yard touchdown dive.
Chiefs 27, Raiders 23. Game over.
All the Raiders can do is file the paperwork with the league office, which they have already done.
"That's something that's transpired, we send it in, we hear from the league and it's all between the league and the team and there's no comments made about it," coach Norv Turner said.
Not by the coaches and front office, anyway.
"Judgement call, huh," Jasper said. "All I know is this happens us a lot."
If anything, Jasper believed, the flag should have gone the other way.
"I bull-rushed the dude, he held me, he threw me down over the top of him and I got a tripping call," Jasper said. "When I got up, the ref threw the flag late, so I'm thinking they called holding. He did tackle me. I didn't even see the quarterback. How am I going to trip him? I was too busy being yanked to the ground."
There were similar beefs echoing through the locker room, with one assistant coaching yelling, "How can they call tripping when the quarterback is being sacked?"
Linebacker Danny Clark, like Jasper, thought for sure a holding call was coming.
"Tripping? I was shocked the way it ended up," Clark said.
Turner, who at first said he didn't get a close enough look, disputed the call as delicately as possible at his Monday press conference.
"Jasper gets held. He gets a great rush, he gets grabbed by a shoulder pad, gets pulled, and when he gets pulled, he whips and rolls and Trent's trying to run up inside," Turner said. "You'd like to see the hold called on the offensive player, the guard who held Jasper... and if you see the whole thing, I don't think the call is made."
What galls the Raiders even more is that in Week 2, the Raiders lost 23-17 in a game that saw a 6-yard touchdown pass to Randy Moss nullified by a phantom offensive interference penalty, and a 56-yard run by LaMont Jordan erased by a hold away from the run.
"That's why, every other week, the Raiders get something in the mail from the league saying, "Sorry, it was a bad call," Jasper said. "It happens to us a lot. More than any team I've ever been on."
The Chiefs were actually penalized more than the Raiders, getting whistled for 11 penalties for 87 yards and the Raiders nine for 84.
On Oakland's first scoring drive of the second half, the Chiefs were hit with three penalties for 37 yards -- including a debatable roughing the passer call on Jared Allen against Kerry Collins.
Team Report: Inside Slant
Inside Slant
Whether it's karma, bad luck or something more insidious, the Oakland Raiders can't seem to put themselves on the good side of an official's whistle.
Particularly when the opponent is the Kansas City Chiefs.
The Raiders played the victim again Sunday.
It was second-and-3 at the Kansas City 47-yard line with 34 seconds to play. Oakland led 23-20. Defensive end Tommy Kelly recorded his third sack of the game against Trent Green, pushing the Chiefs back to the 40 where they faced a third-and-10.
Also in on the play was defensive tackle Ed Jasper, who was grappling with Chiefs guard Will Shields. Green wound up being forced over Jasper's legs, a flag flew, and the Raiders were called for tripping.
Instead of third-and-10 at their own 40, the Chiefs had first-and-10 at the 50 with the clock stopping with 27 seconds remaining.
Green hit a 13-yard out pattern to Eddie Kennison, found Larry Johnson sneaking behind a Raiders 5-man rush for a 36-yard gain to the 1, and then finished it off with a 1-yard touchdown dive.
Chiefs 27, Raiders 23. Game over.
All the Raiders can do is file the paperwork with the league office, which they have already done.
"That's something that's transpired, we send it in, we hear from the league and it's all between the league and the team and there's no comments made about it," coach Norv Turner said.
Not by the coaches and front office, anyway.
"Judgement call, huh," Jasper said. "All I know is this happens us a lot."
If anything, Jasper believed, the flag should have gone the other way.
"I bull-rushed the dude, he held me, he threw me down over the top of him and I got a tripping call," Jasper said. "When I got up, the ref threw the flag late, so I'm thinking they called holding. He did tackle me. I didn't even see the quarterback. How am I going to trip him? I was too busy being yanked to the ground."
There were similar beefs echoing through the locker room, with one assistant coaching yelling, "How can they call tripping when the quarterback is being sacked?"
Linebacker Danny Clark, like Jasper, thought for sure a holding call was coming.
"Tripping? I was shocked the way it ended up," Clark said.
Turner, who at first said he didn't get a close enough look, disputed the call as delicately as possible at his Monday press conference.
"Jasper gets held. He gets a great rush, he gets grabbed by a shoulder pad, gets pulled, and when he gets pulled, he whips and rolls and Trent's trying to run up inside," Turner said. "You'd like to see the hold called on the offensive player, the guard who held Jasper... and if you see the whole thing, I don't think the call is made."
What galls the Raiders even more is that in Week 2, the Raiders lost 23-17 in a game that saw a 6-yard touchdown pass to Randy Moss nullified by a phantom offensive interference penalty, and a 56-yard run by LaMont Jordan erased by a hold away from the run.
"That's why, every other week, the Raiders get something in the mail from the league saying, "Sorry, it was a bad call," Jasper said. "It happens to us a lot. More than any team I've ever been on."
The Chiefs were actually penalized more than the Raiders, getting whistled for 11 penalties for 87 yards and the Raiders nine for 84.
On Oakland's first scoring drive of the second half, the Chiefs were hit with three penalties for 37 yards -- including a debatable roughing the passer call on Jared Allen against Kerry Collins.
