Finally! The media is catching on to USC

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:14 am

And their shitty defense.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... ense_x.htm

Leaky 'D' may be thorn in USC's title defense
By Jack Carey, USA TODAY
As Southern California accumulates yards and points at a video game-like pace behind two Heisman Trophy candidates, a question remains about what happens when Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush head for the sideline: Does USC have enough defense to win a third consecutive national title?

The Trojans enter Saturday's showdown with No. 11 UCLA allowing 351 yards a game, 46th among Division I-A teams.

No national champion has given up as many yards since Penn State's 1982 team, which surrendered 364.9 a game. USC is giving up 21.5 points a game, more than any national champ in at least 50 years. Fresno State scored 42 in USC's last game.

UCLA is averaging 444.4 offensive yards and 40 points, and the Trojans' prospective Rose Bowl opponent, Texas, leads the nation in scoring offense (49.2 points) and is third in total offense (510.5 yards).

Last year's unbeaten USC team was much stingier, allowing 279.3 yards a game (sixth nationally) and 13 points. But that defense boasted veteran stalwarts who have moved on, including three players drafted by the NFL. This year's unit also has had some key injuries.

Defending champions

How recent national champs compare with USC in total and scoring defense:
Yr. Team Total (rank) Pts. (rank)
'00 Oklahoma 278.9 (8) 16 (7)
'01 Miami (Fla.) 270.9 (6) 9.4 (1)
'02 Ohio State 320.8 (23) 13.1 (2)
'03 USC 336.4 (30) 18.4 (T17)
'03 LSU 252 (1) 11 (1)
'04 USC 279.3 (6) 13 (3)
'05 USC 351 (46) 21.5 (29)

Source: NCAA

So if, as the old saying goes, defense wins championships, should the Trojans be worried?

"In comparison with the level of play and the expectations of our offense, everybody thinks the defense is not holding up their end, but that's really not the case," says coach Pete Carroll, who is also the defensive coordinator. "I think we've been solid and hung in there (considering) the changes we had and the years and years of experience we lost.

"You're never satisfied, and we have a lot of growth yet to hopefully gain, but we're battling every week."

Carroll also pointed out that the Trojans have been "enormous" in the turnover department. They have forced 34, third highest in the nation, and that can make up for a lot of defensive shortcomings. So, too, can an offense that's averaging 48.5 points and a national-best 571.3 yards a game.

He might also take solace in the 2003 edition of the Trojans, who shared the national championship and had defensive stats more comparable to this year's club. That USC team, which went 12-1, gave up 336.4 yards and 18.4 points a game.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:19 am

Oklahoma was going to kill us also, don't you remember.

Of course not. You didn't learn then and you won't learn this time either.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:21 am

Vito's working really hard to convince hisself that Texas is worth a shit.

Good luck.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:27 am

Jimmy Medalions wrote:Oklahoma was going to kill us also, don't you remember.

Of course not. You didn't learn then and you won't learn this time either.

Learn what that you won your bowl game last year

Key being Last year as in this year is different with different players. I guess if you can get a few of last years seniors back for the bowl game we might be comparing apples to apples but until that happens lets just say that the SC defense is pretty damn shitty.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:31 am

Mikey wrote:Vito's working really hard to convince hisself that Texas is worth a shit.

Good luck.

I guess beating every team on our schedule means nothing. yea your right, Texas is a horrible team and should just accept the Cotton bowl.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:34 am

Vito Corleone wrote:
Mikey wrote:Vito's working really hard to convince hisself that Texas is worth a shit.

Good luck.
I guess beating every team on our schedule means nothing. yea your right, Texas is a horrible team and should just accept the Cotton bowl.

If it takes trying to prove, via some kind of obscure statistical comparison, that somehow SC is overrated for you to feel good about your own team, then I guess you do have a problem.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:42 am

Compared to the UCLA "defense" the Toejam D looks like a combination of - The Steel Curtain, Purple People Eaters, Doomsday Defense, Fearsome Foursome, Monsters of the Midway, etc.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:49 am

Let's compare the total offenses that Texas and USC have faced this season per the NCAA Website, shall we?

TEXAS:

Louisiana Lafayette - 50
Ohio State - 37
Rice - 85
Missouri - 32
Oklahoma - 73
Colorado - 62
Texas Tech - 2
Oklahoma State - 91
Baylor - 96
Kansas - 102
aTm - 19
Colorado - 62
AVERAGE - 74

USC:

Hawaii - 11
Arkansas - 67
Oregon - 16
Arizona State - 4
Arizona - 75
Notre Dame - 10
Washington - 69
Washington State - 9
Stanford - 98
Kal - 30
Fresno State - 31
fUCLA - 18
AVERAGE - 36.5

Naturally you are from the Big XII and will fall into the same trap so many did a year ago- that the Pac 10 is soft and doesn't play defense, hence the big offensive numbers. I'm confident that Texasfan hasn't learned from that grave mistake a year ago, and the numbers above prove the point.

Vito, if I was you I'd be a hell of a lot quieter right now. You should be grateful to be on the doorstep of a Rose Bowl appearance in general.

Continue to believe that you will walk all over us, and you'll go the way of Oklahoma a year ago.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:54 am

Let's also look at the BCS standings by conference, shall we?

Big XII:

Texas - 2
Texas Tech - 16
Oklahoma - 23

USC:

USC - 1
Oregon - 7
fUCLA - 12

Sorry Vito but your grip on reality is not firm.

Continue to exude overconfidence, though. Your loss isn't really my concern.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:00 am

And how'd that Texas D look last week against that juggernaut of an A&M offense?

SC's D is hurting due to injuries, plain and simple. Injuries, and so often being ahead by so much that they've given up a ton of garbage time yards and points.

Assuming they get by UCLA (not a completely safe assumption) SC's myriad injured defenders will've had a decent amount of time to heal up. The time off will certainly help, as will a month of game planning.

Maybe we ought to just go ahead and play that game against Texas, just to be sure. Funny thing, that. For all of Vito's bluster you can be certain that if USC beats UCLA they're going to be a solid Vegas favorite over Texas and if we took a board wide poll here as to who everybody thinks will win even Vito knows that the majority will pick USC. Moreover, absolutely nobody will be shocked if USC-Texas ends up looking like USC-OU, The Sequel...

Vito, you just better hope UCLA gets 'em for you 'cause you're going to get rolled if USC makes it to Pasadena. No way an undefeated USC loses the Rose Bowl.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:25 am

Mikey wrote:
If it takes trying to prove, via some kind of obscure statistical comparison, that somehow SC is overrated for you to feel good about your own team, then I guess you do have a problem.

Since when is comparing the Total defense and scoring defense vs past #1 considered a obscure statistical comparison. I bet if it was a favorable comparison you would be jacking off in front of your computer right now.

Jimmy Medalions wrote: Let's compare the total offenses that Texas and USC have faced this season per the NCAA Website, shall we?

TEXAS:

Louisiana Lafayette - 50
Ohio State - 37
Rice - 85
Missouri - 32
Oklahoma - 73
Colorado - 62
Texas Tech - 2
Oklahoma State - 91
Baylor - 96
Kansas - 102
aTm - 19
Colorado - 62
AVERAGE - 74

USC:

Hawaii - 11
Arkansas - 67
Oregon - 16
Arizona State - 4
Arizona - 75
Notre Dame - 10
Washington - 69
Washington State - 9
Stanford - 98
Kal - 30
Fresno State - 31
fUCLA - 18
AVERAGE - 36.5

Naturally you are from the Big XII and will fall into the same trap so many did a year ago- that the Pac 10 is soft and doesn't play defense, hence the big offensive numbers. I'm confident that Texasfan hasn't learned from that grave mistake a year ago, and the numbers above prove the point.

Vito, if I was you I'd be a hell of a lot quieter right now. You should be grateful to be on the doorstep of a Rose Bowl appearance in general.

Continue to believe that you will walk all over us, and you'll go the way of Oklahoma a year ago.

So I guess you seem to think that the Texas defense is overrated because you scored a lot of points on a Oklahoma pass defense that ranked somewhere around your defense?

And you seem to think that because you played a Big 12 team last year that you will get the same results because you are playing a Big 12 team again this year?

What a moron I hope you are not a doctor, Lawyer, police officier or engauged in any profession where people rely on you to solve their problems.

I could see your logic as a doctor, well the last lady that came into my office had a bun in the oven and since your about as round as she is I think you do to.

BTW does everyone in SoCal think like a woman. (no offense AgGal)

van the tard wrote: And how'd that Texas D look last week against that juggernaut of an A&M offense?

SC's D is hurting due to injuries, plain and simple. Injuries, and so often being ahead by so much that they've given up a ton of garbage time yards and points.

Assuming they get by UCLA (not a completely safe assumption) SC's myriad injured defenders will've had a decent amount of time to heal up. The time off will certainly help, as will a month of game planning.

Maybe we ought to just go ahead and play that game against Texas, just to be sure. Funny thing, that. For all of Vito's bluster you can be certain that if USC beats UCLA they're going to be a solid Vegas favorite over Texas and if we took a board wide poll here as to who everybody thinks will win even Vito knows that the majority will pick USC. Moreover, absolutely nobody will be shocked if USC-Texas ends up looking like USC-OU, The Sequel...

Vito, you just better hope UCLA gets 'em for you 'cause you're going to get rolled if USC makes it to Pasadena. No way an undefeated USC loses the Rose Bowl.

Yea that mighty Fresno state offense is just so damn great that you can talk about the aggie game?

Texas gave up 29 pts to the aggies while the condoms gave up almost 50 pts to a team that lost to Nevada the next week.

Maybe we should just invite Nevada to the Rosebowl instead of USC, if we are going by our bad games it sure has hell looks like Nevada will be a more worthwhile opponent.

The Southern California population never ceases to amaze me with their complete lack of sports knowledge

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:50 am

Vito, assuming we both make it, are you up for a USC-Texas Death Match?

The loser leaves and under whatever honor system you value that loser never posts here again under any other nic, primary or otherwise. No trolling, no nothing.

Gonzo.

See, you seem incapable of posting without resorting to childish name calling. There's plenty of big time honks here, people who root for their teams just as hard as you do, but they manage it in a fairly mature manner.

You seem incapable of it. If somebody disagrees with you they're an idiot and blah, blah, blah. It's like watching a bad episode of some MTV show populated by nothing but vapid cheerleaders. Beyond all that though there's also that little fact of your Texas myopia. Even though Texas hasn't proven a damn thing to anybody yet other than they're lucky OU is down (otherwise Texas would still be That Little Overrated Team That Couldn't), you pop off so frequently and so childishly that yeah, I seriously wouldn't mind never seeing another boneheaded teenybopper post from you ever again.

I'm game. Are you? Texas wins, I never post here again. This place is yours and I'll never get a word in edgewise in rebuttal.

USC wins, you read the shit that will surely flow your way here and you just sit there and take it and you never click your "submit" button again.

Deal?

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:12 am

~sigh

If I were UT fan, I'd be excited about a damn good matchup in the title game, not insanely doubting their credentials to be at the game...

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:46 am

What the hell, I'm in, but only if Jimmy Mikey Van and SoCalTrjn are in as well. I want all you trojan jackasses to put your name where your mouth is.

The only post the loser gets after the game is their last goodbyes.

I have no doubt you will live up to your end of the deal. Its the trademark of sports fans in Southern Cal to dissappear when the ride ends. And the SC ride is coming to an end.

And I am excited about how my team has done, but SC tard has been talking way too much shit about 4 peats and how undeserving Vince Young is of the heisman. SC fan seems to think their shit don't stink.

I'm just pointing out the obvious with regard to the SC defense.

So lets do this.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:31 pm

Hold on a sec...you're deathmatching with 4 posters?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:36 pm

Does anyone ever stick to their "goodbyes"? If they did we'd only have about 3 posters here. Or do we...

Why do you really want to see the other person go? I'd rather see them stay and watch them melt after my team won. Much more entertaining.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:36 pm

PSUFAN wrote:Hold on a sec...you're deathmatching with 4 posters?

Yep. He's calling out everyone, because he knows that not everyone wil agree to it. One poster called him, he should decide with that one poster, no one else.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:43 pm

Does anyone ever stick to their "goodbyes"?

They do here. :hungus:

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:09 pm

Vito, no, Meds and SoCalTrjn are separate entities. Their participiation isn't required.

Besides, one of you isn't worth all of us.

I called you out. Just me. They had no part in it.

One Death Match. USC vs Texas, Van vs Vito. Period. No pussing out, no qualifiers, no final good bye posts where the loser attempts to get the last word in.

Nope. You lose, you're gone, period. No final good byes, no rationalizations, no parting shots. You just follow up the ignominy of seeing your team lose with the ignominy of having to read about it and having no recourse.

You die, and you can only watch your death. You can't frame it to your liking with some final good bye post.

You lose, it's over. Never hit "submit" again.

You've talked all the shit in the world so now it's time to back it up. That's the deal. Are you in or not?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:26 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:
Mikey wrote:
If it takes trying to prove, via some kind of obscure statistical comparison, that somehow SC is overrated for you to feel good about your own team, then I guess you do have a problem.
Since when is comparing the Total defense and scoring defense vs past #1 considered a obscure statistical comparison. I bet if it was a favorable comparison you would be jacking off in front of your computer right now.

It's obscure because it's meaningless.

All it means is that they've given up more yards per game than any of the previous 5 national champions. Nothing more. Meaningless because they are different teams, different years, playing different opponents. It says nothing about the teams' respective offensive sides, or the fact that SC scores so quickly that the opponent often has ball for a lot of the game.

Post some stats about yards per play, scoring or yardage differential, SOS, or whatever. That might be marginally more meaningful. But even that really wouldn't do anything to prove your point here, which is to justify your own team by desperately trying to find anything, ANYTHING negative to say about another team.

And this is all you can come up with.

Pathetic.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:15 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:
BTW does everyone in SoCal think like a woman. (no offense AgGal)

Too bad you threw that in, I'd a liked to seen her beat you like a stepchild...

The Southern California population never ceases to amaze me with their complete lack of sports knowledge

Tell your fucking friends and families to quit moving here and the problem will solve itself...

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:06 pm

Umm...Vito has posted here in the CFB forum for 6 years or so. He has rarely posted elsewhere. NBA forum I believe is it. Van riding in here on the SC wagon throwing deathmatch bets is a little overboard.

As for 1 vs. 4, Meds wouldn't take a bet with the biggest tard these boards have ever witnessed. He surely isn't going to against someone just little higher up on the totem pole.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:13 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:So I guess you seem to think that the Texas defense is overrated because you scored a lot of points on a Oklahoma pass defense that ranked somewhere around your defense?

No, idiot, I'm saying that the Texas defense that you're righteously pimping in this thread has faced offenses this season with an average national ranking of 78. Seventy-fucking-eight.

You try to say that USC has no defense, yet we're also undefeated and have faced teams with offenses with a national ranking averaging 36.5.

Math much, moron? Do I need to explain everything to you?

And you seem to think that because you played a Big 12 team last year that you will get the same results because you are playing a Big 12 team again this year?

I never really figured you for a bright one, but this thread solidifies my impression of you as a dimbulb.

What I said, moron, is that Big XII fans a year ago automatically dismissed USC as coming from a soft conference. Just like you're doing in this thread if I read between the lines. You didn't learn a lesson from last year, apparently.

I hope your players believe what you're saying as well.

What a moron I hope you are not a doctor, Lawyer, police officier or engauged in any profession where people rely on you to solve their problems.

This from a guy whose body of work on this board could be replicated by an auto mechanic.

Sorry Vito but your writing skills and inability to read are the real issue here.

You are naive, at best, if you think that the path to a MNC for Texas will be easy. But then again, you are a Texas fan so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. You are no better than an SEC fan right now if you think that you'll beat your opponent outright, simply because that opponent may be from the Pac 10.

I pitty non-thinking idiots like you Vito.

I could see your logic as a doctor, well the last lady that came into my office had a bun in the oven and since your about as round as she is I think you do to.

BTW does everyone in SoCal think like a woman. (no offense AgGal)

Brilliant. Texas fan seyz he's unbeatable and then drops fat smack. Nice melt.

Nobody cares that you're a doctor either, Vito. They way you conduct your business in this forum, you're already written off by most.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:15 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Meds wouldn't take a bet with the biggest tard these boards have ever witnessed. He surely isn't going to against someone just little higher up on the totem pole.

Meds didn't take the best because it's clear said tard would never live up to their best when they lost.

I see you working Indy.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:25 pm

Indy, if this is the same Vito I used to see on the NBA board then nope, I'm not going overboard at all. I've seen this guy for years.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:37 pm

a_b isn't the same vito that used to moderate the NBA forums, at least as far as I know.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:42 pm

That was a different Vito. This is the former Austin_Bill.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:59 pm

Well, whether or not he's the same Vito I used to see on other NBA boards he remains an overbearing douche on this board.

:-)

Guys like TiC, Killian, Meds, Buc, Believe the Heupel, DiT, PSU and so many others, these guys can conduct themselves in a discussion without it instantly becoming a bunch of childish slagging of entire regions. Some of these people, I've talked CF with for years. It doesn't instantly become, "God, you're stupid. You don't know anything."

That seems to be the only thing that ever happens once Vito enters into any discussion so yeah, I'll risk bailing here myself if it means a chance of posting here minus his "contributions"...

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:45 pm

Van wrote:Well, whether or not he's the same Vito I used to see on other NBA boards he remains an overbearing douche on this board.

:-)

Guys like TiC, Killian, Meds, Buc, Believe the Heupel, DiT, PSU and so many others, these guys can conduct themselves in a discussion without it instantly becoming a bunch of childish slagging of entire regions. Some of these people, I've talked CF with for years. It doesn't instantly become, "God, you're stupid. You don't know anything."

That seems to be the only thing that ever happens once Vito enters into any discussion so yeah, I'll risk bailing here myself if it means a chance of posting here minus his "contributions"...

That little part of the discussion (generalizing about Socal fans) is reserved for fans from the Southern California area, (not including fans from other regions that just happen to live there). As frisco has said I've been on this board for a long time actually a lot longer than 6 years since about 97 and I've seen the rise and fall Laker fan, UCLA fan in the late 90's and now trojan fan. There is a trend with all of them, they show up when their team is doing great and leave when the ride is over. BTW Seer, my bad for including you in this because you've been here a while and have proven to be a standup poster. But Van you and a couple of other posters from SC have come in here talking a lot of shit that anyone in their right mind couldn't possibly think is legit, but you talk it anyways. Much like Laker fan does. BTW go over to the NBA side Laker fans are pretty hard to find now-a-days. So if I generalize about fans from SoCal its only because I've had a lot of experience with them.

As for Meds
Did it escape you that you faced those same Pac 10 offenses last year and still had a defense ranked #13. Yet this year its ranked in the 40's. so whats the difference, is the PAC 10 more stacked this year or does your defense suck more this year compared to last year? Looking at the article I posted thats a pretty telling stat about your defense. And since your the guy who wants to compare last years win over OU to how you will beat Texas this year explain away.

One last thing med. Since you want to compare conference stats did you notice that comparing opponents of Texas and USC that Texas has faced the highest ranked offense and the hightest ranked defense of all opponents. Yes USC has faced more quality offenses than Texas has but the one ranked #4 we kicked the shit out of, and the last time a Pac 10 school faced that same offense it got the shit kicked out of it.

When all is said and done the real truth is that for USC, the Texas offense is going to be the best offense they will have faced all year. Likewise the Texas defense is also the best defense USC will have faced all year.

For Texas its obvious that the USC offense is going to be the best offense we have faced all year. But, the USC defense is is maybe the 3rd best defense we have faced all year, I would rank Ohio State and Oklahoma as both being better.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:04 pm

BTW I have only posted under 3 names (trolls not included) Austin_Bill, Hank Hill (on texags.com) and now Vito Corleone. The only reason I changed is because I live in Minneapolis now. I think the Vito Corleone that used to do the NBA boards was a Laker fan and as anyone who knows me knows I am a huge Laker Hater.

And Killian the reason I put out a 4-1 hungus is because I have been with you guys forever and if it means that much to SoCal fans then they can all take part in the hungus, I wouldn't do it just for van the tard cause he ain't worth it. Hell for all I know van is just someones troll.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:09 pm

You kicked the shit out of Texas Tech :?

On the scoreboard, yes. Per the stats and what you gave up, no.

[web]http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=252950251[/web]

Sorry Vito, the only team who kicked the shit out of anyone was Taco Tech. Kicking their own ass, that is.

Kindly tell me how the almighty D of Texas kicked the shit out of Tech when they gave up more yards in total than The Tech D did that day.

I'll leave the light on for you.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:09 pm

Last year's OU offense had in White a better passer than Young and in Peterson a better runner than Charles.

OU's problem was the same one Texas will encounter: Their offense isn't going to be anything that USC's defensive talent/schemes won't be able to handle and their defense which has feasted on a bunch of Big XII offenses hasn't seen anything even remotely resembling Lienart/Bush/White/Jarret/Byrd and that offensive line...plus those schemes.

Texas is going to be down a couple score before their D even has a chance to catch its breath and they're just not going to know what hit 'em. Then, because USC isn't Okie State or A&M, they won't be able to shut USC down in the second half either so there's not going to be any big come backs...

Instead, there'll be more turnovers by Vince Young and the rout will be on...

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:11 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:And Killian the reason I put out a 4-1 hungus is because I have been with you guys forever and if it means that much to SoCal fans then they can all take part in the hungus, I wouldn't do it just for van the tard cause he ain't worth it. Hell for all I know van is just someones troll.

Truth be told, Van's been on these boards awhile, although he mainly stuck to the main forum until recently. I noticed him long before I ever noticed you, and in a favorable manner as well.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:14 pm

Texas is going to be down a couple score before their D even has a chance to catch its breath

This guy is good. He doesn't simply know who will win, but can project quarter-by-quarter results. Give it a rest and let's just see how things play out.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:17 pm

Mgo, it makes for awfully boring discussions if everybody sits around and waits for 20/20 hindsight before they weigh in with their predictions...

:-)

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:29 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:And their shitty defense.

Bwahahahaha,

Sincerely,

The Iowa Hawkeyes
Michigan Wolverines
Oklahoma Sooners

How many years is it going to take for the rest of the country to realize The Bowls end up explaining the story as to why these STATS result as such?

Keep trying, Vito. There's room for a fourth on the letter.
You better be cheering for UCLA, Lord knows you don't want any of SC and we know there is no way in hell SC could back in after losing this one like sopme other schools.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:40 pm

I know, van. I'm just impressed by your ability to know only predict, but to know what's going to happen, right down to the very last detail. You really should re-think you're career choice.

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:42 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:BTW I have only posted under 3 names (trolls not included) Austin_Bill, Hank Hill (on texags.com) and now Vito Corleone. The only reason I changed is because I live in Minneapolis now. I think the Vito Corleone that used to do the NBA boards was a Laker fan and as anyone who knows me knows I am a huge Laker Hater.

Ah! Thank you for explaining that. I was trippin' because I knew Vito as a SoCal boy/Lakerfan and was like when the fuck did you start trippin' on our SoCal Trojans and beomce a Texas Queer?

Nice to be back slapping you around, Bill.

-Era

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:59 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:The Southern California population never ceases to amaze me with their complete lack of sports knowledge

Yea, you used to tell me that after the first (*) Spurs Championship. You remember when I used to tell you that the Shaq/Kobe lead Lakers would roll them. Hmm, I think Vito used to tell you that too. You subsequently take over his character? :P

No wonder why you disappeared from those boards after 3 years in a row of seeing them fall short to teh Lakers. Then after a one year slip, they ran them again. Yup, we Lakerfans were so lacking in our knowledge. Just like us SC and west coast fans keep shoving this "soft" tag down your throats every bowl season but every year we hear that same old broken record wind up again. I think it is the east coast's retention that should be being questioned.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:01 pm

Meds,

Yea Tech moved the ball pretty good, in that game the Tech QB tossed the ball 64 times but did you notice that the average pass completion went for only 5.3 yards per catch. In that game tech had the ball for 15 different possessions and out of those possessions 4 of them went for more than 50 yards and more than 8 plays. The rest were 7 plays or less and less than 50 yards. Their longest pass completion was for 29 yards and their longest run was for 27 yards. Again they moved the ball but 7 of their drives ended in a punt and 2 ended at the half. They scored 3 times and the rest ended in a turnover or on downs.

Now with that being said, who was the best offense USC faced and how did they do against your defense?

Now look at the best defense your team faced and how did your offense do against them?

I can tell you that the best defense Texas faced was Ohio state and they completely shut down the running game but because they had to play their safeties so close to the LOS they left the middle of the field wide open and Vince was able to hit a lot of big passes deep over the middle. The way I see it is that the USC front 7 is not anywhere close to the Ohio State front 7 and they are going to have a much harder time stopping the run thus they will also have to play the safeties shallow which will again open up the middle of the field for the Texas receivers. And don't think your corners are better than the Ohio State corners cause those guys were pretty tough.

Right now I would rank the USC defense lower than the OU defense and Texas put up over 40 pts on them. As of right now I see no reason why they won't do the same to USC.

The real question that no one can answer is how will the USC offense play against the Texas defense because neither has a point of reference to guage how they will do. We can talk all day about how the other will do but the fact is neither unit has faced a unit as good as the other.

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