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I don't agree with the writers predicted outcome, but atlease he did some research on the two teams.



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Leinart, coaching, experience give USC the edgeScouts, Inc.


The nation's top two scoring offenses will be featured in this epic national championship clash, but don't be surprised if the defenses become the story when Texas and USC meet in the Rose Bowl Game Presented by Citi.

Texas vs. USC Matchups
QB RB WR OL DL LB DB ST Coach Overall



Texas Offense vs. USC Defense
Under coordinator Greg Davis, Texas' offensive staple is the zone-read option. QB Vince Young spends a good majority of his time working out of the shotgun, typically with one back to his side, one tight end up front, two receivers to one side and one receiver to the other. This scheme is productive for many different reasons, but mainly because it highlights Young's abilities as the nation's premier dual-threat quarterback. Young leads a running attack that ranks third in the nation, averaging 273.8 yards per game, but it has been his improved passing efficiency -- particularly downfield -- that has elevated the Longhorn attack to absolute elite status as the No. 1 scoring offense in the nation.

Rose Bowl Game Presented by Citi

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Who: Texas vs. USC
When: Jan. 4, 8 p.m. ET (ABC)
Where: Pasadina, Calif.

Young is obviously the star, but his supporting cast is underrated. The Longhorns have two talented running backs in freshman Jamaal Charles and sophomore Ramonce Taylor. Charles got off to a monster start to his collegiate career by rushing for 563 yards in the Longhorns first four games, but injuries and common wear-and-tear led to the 18-year-old slowing down in the second half of the season. With a month off to recuperate, Charles should be fresh and ready to go. Taylor is the fastest member of the Longhorn team and is a huge home-run threat, but his dancing around leads to at least a couple of carries for losses per game. Ideally, Charles will handle the brunt of the running load with Taylor coming in to light a spark as a back or even as a slot receiver, where he spent a lot more time early this season.

Texas' offensive line lives up to its hype as one of the finest groups in college football today. Led by OTs Jonathan Scott and Justin Blalock, the unit has great overall size and strength, which it uses to absolutely overpower most opponents on the ground.

The Trojans have been much improved against the run recently, but they have not seen a rushing attack as big and dynamic as the one they will see in the Rose Bowl. MLB Oscar Lua is a big, strong middle linebacker who has emerged as the leader of his defense. He is surrounded by a lot of talent at the linebacker position, but the two starters flanking him (freshman SLB Brian Cushing and sophomore WLB Keith Rivers) are young and capable of multiple assignment breakdowns against Texas' zone-read scheme. The other big problem for USC in this matchup comes up front, where NT Sedrick Ellis and DT LaJuan Ramsey give up a lot of size against UT's massive interior offensive line of OC Lyle Sendlein and OGs Will Allen and Kasey Studdard. If Ellis and Ramsey are unable to hold their ground at the point of attack, Lua and Rivers will be forced to deal with entirely too many blockers on the second level.

Texas has shown some holes in its pass protection at times, but Young's mobility often makes up for it. One of the biggest challenges for USC defensively is to get pressure on Young without giving him creases to exploit with his feet. For starters, the Trojans defensive line will need to show excellent gap discipline when rushing the passer. The concept won't be as difficult for the interior linemen to grasp as it will be for DEs Lawrence Jackson and Frostee Rucker, who are accustomed to turning it loose upfield with little regard. The discipline of this tandem, which has combined for 16.5 tackles this season, will be a huge key to USC's defensive performance in Pasadena.



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TE David Thomas leads the Longhorns with 40 catches.When the Longhorns do throw, Young has plenty of weapons. TE David Thomas, who leads the team with 40 catches, is an undersized but athletic H-Back type who does a great job of making defenses pay for overloading against the run by exploiting them down the middle. The Longhorns' speed on the perimeter with WRs Billy Pittman (23.2 yard-per-catch average), Limas Sweed (17.1 ypc) and Quan Cosby (19.5 ypc) makes them especially tough to defend. Even though it will make them smaller against the run, USC coach Pete Carroll will be forced to use a lot of nickel personnel packages in order to match up athletically. If Carroll elects to test the water early on with CBs Justin Wyatt, Josh Pinkard and John Walker left alone in man-to-man coverage on the outside, Young's ability to recognize it and capitalize with accurate vertical throws could wind up becoming the difference in the game's outcome.

USC strong safety Darnell Bing could prove to be the game's biggest X-factor. Bing is the veteran leader of USC's secondary and also is its biggest playmaker, finishing the regular season with a team-best four interceptions. Carroll will likely be liberal with Bing early on to see if he can handle matching up with TE Thomas while being cheated up into the box to act as a fourth linebacker. If the big-hitting junior proves up to the task, it could be the advantage that the otherwise overmatched Trojan defense needs against Young & Co.


USC Offense vs. Texas Defense
The Trojans operate out of a much more traditional pro-style offense, employing a two-back, two-receiver, one-tight end personnel grouping as its base package. Lane Kiffin has done a fine job of in his first year as offensive coordinator, but it must also be noted that QB Matt Leinart has more freedom in terms of play calling and checking off at the line of scrimmage than most collegiate quarterbacks. Regardless, USC's offense in 2005 will go down as one of the most balanced and explosive units in the history of college football. It ranks second (behind Texas) in national scoring offense and first in total yards. What makes this group most difficult to defend is that it can beat you in so many different ways. The Trojans have the nation's fourth-ranked rushing offense and fifth-ranked passing attack.



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LenDale White rushed for 21 TDs in 2005.USC will look to establish the ground game early on with RBs Reggie Bush and LenDale White. Occasionally both backs will be in the game at the same time, and Bush's prowess as a receiver gives opponents just one more aspect to worry about in those situations. White was slowed with a shoulder injury down the stretch, but he is healthy now after nearly a month off. With both backs at full strength, the Longhorns should expect to see more carries out of White and a more versatile role out of Bush. White has the size and north-south power-running style to wear Texas down if given 20-plus carries in this game, especially behind his big and efficient offensive line. Bush is also an outstanding inside runner, but he's most dangerous in space. The idea is to use White as a ramrod to tire down the opponent and then find ways (sweeps, counters, draws, screens, flat-routes, etc.) to get the explosively fast Bush the ball on the outside.

What makes this matchup so intriguing is the size and depth of Texas' defensive line. Most defensive fronts are simply overmatched physically in the trenches against the likes of USC OTs Sam Baker and Winston Justice, OGs Taitusi Lutui and Fred Matua, and OC Ryan Kalil. But Texas' front four of DTs Rodrique Wright and Frank Okam and DEs Brian Robison and Tim Crowder weigh an average of nearly 290 pounds per member. The starters also get good rest thanks to the depth it has with reserves such as DT Larry Dibbles and DE Brian Orakpo.

MLB Aaron Harris has been a tackling machine this season. He has the size and strength to hold up physically against the pounding that White delivers and should get the protection he needs from his front four in order to pursue in space. However, neither Harris nor WLB Rashad Bobino has the athleticism to consistently wrap Bush up in space or to cover him one-on-one out of the backfield. That's where Michael Huff and Michael Griffin come into play.

Just as Bing should wind up playing a key role for USC's defense, Texas will rely on its exceptional playmaking tandem at safety to help overcome a lot of other individual mismatches in this game. What makes Griffin and Huff so unique is that both players are versatile enough to match up in the box in run support from the high point in zone coverage and in the slot one-on-one. Huff, a former cornerback, is the better athlete of the two, which is why it wouldn't be surprising to see defensive coordinator Gene Chizik utilize Huff essentially as a spy against Bush. At the very least, Huff will spend some time covering Bush when he motions out wide or in the slot as a receiver. It will take much more than one individual to keep Bush bottled up, but Huff has a better mix of tools and experience than any other defender Bush has been matched up against this season.

Even if Texas is somehow able to keep the one-two punch of White and Bush in relative check, Leinart still has the weapons around him to win in one-dimensional fashion -- and that's what makes game planning for USC so frightening. The Longhorns have gifted and accomplished cover corners in Cedric Griffin (assuming he is in good standing following an off-the-field incident) and Tarell Brown, and the aggressive Chizik often relies on them in man-to-man coverage in order to get his safeties more involved close to the line of scrimmage.



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Dwayne Jarrett led the Trojans with 81 catches in 2005.However, it will be surprising if either of the two is capable of holding up on an island versus WRs Dwayne Jarrett or Steve Smith. Jarrett simply has too much size (6-foot-5, 210) and speed to handle one-on-one and Smith has proven against the best of competition that he's too savvy of a route runner to disrespect. As if that's not enough to think about, USC also has a couple of playmaking tight ends in Dominique Byrd and Fred Davis that will make the Longhorns pay down the middle if Chizik gets too liberal with safeties Huff and Griffin.

The only teams that have stalled USC's offense are the ones that have been able to generate consistent pressure on Leinart without excessive use of the blitz. Chizik loves to send extra pass rushers, but even he will realize that he needs those defenders in order to come close to matching up in coverage. As such, the pressure will be on Texas' front four to prevent Leinart from establishing his rhythm as a pocket passer.

Some teams (Arizona State, Notre Dame and Fresno State) have been able to do so for a couple of quarters, but never for an entire game. That's a credit to Leinart's poise and intelligence, as well as to the efficiency and determination of USC's offensive line. If Texas' defense is to be the first to take Leinart out of his game for the entire four-quarter affair, it will take career efforts from Robison, Wright, and Crowder, who have combined for 17.5 sacks this season.


Special Teams
One of the more understated aspects of this matchup is Texas' significant advantage on special teams. The Longhorns have shown the consistent ability to exploit opponents for their lack of discipline in kick coverage this season. Aaron Ross has been one of the nation's best punt return specialists with an average of 15 yards per attempt, including two for scores, and Ramonce Taylor has an impressive average of 29.4 yards per kickoff return with a long of 54 yards on the season. Ross and Taylor could play monster roles in the outcome of this game against a USC team that has surrendered two touchdowns on punt returns and a 94-yard kickoff return this season.


USC also has the potential to be explosive in this facet. After all, Bush is capable of breaking the game open as a return specialist at any point in time. However, while he has been solid as a punt return specialist with an average of 9.9 yards per attempt, including an 84-yard score, Bush has not provided much of a spark on kickoff returns this season, where he is averaging a measly 17 yards per attempt with a long of just 30 yards.

USC PT Tom Malone has one of the strongest legs in the nation and is averaging an impressive 41.7 yards per punt this season, but his infrequent use (30 punts in 12 games) has led to some inconsistency in terms of his mechanics and timing with his cover units. Kicker Mario Danelo has not been used much either, but he has shown no rust when called upon so far this season. Danelo has connected on 10-of-11 FG attempts with his only miss coming from beyond 40 yards.

Texas kicker David Pino has been almost as reliable this season, connecting on 12-of-15 FGs, including a long of 45 yards. To his credit, one of his three misses was a block that resulted from a blocking breakdown and another was on a 53-yard attempt. Longhorn punter Richmond McGee does not possess Malone's powerful leg, but he shows more consistency and better overall directional skills. McGee's pedestrian gross average of 38.1 yards per punt is overshadowed by the team's impressive net punting average of 35.2 yards per attempt, which is 6.3 yards better than USC's average. McGee has also landed 10 of his 33 attempts inside the opponents' 20-yard line this season.

Three Key Individual Matchups
1. USC QB Matt Leinart vs. Texas safeties Michael Huff and Michael Griffin
2. USC RB Reggie Bush vs. Texas MLB Aaron Harris
3. Texas WR Billy Pittman vs. USC CB Josh Pinkard


Scouts' Edge
The nation's top two scoring offenses will be featured in this epic national championship clash, but don't be surprised if the defenses become the story in what we think will be a lower-scoring outcome than most experts think. After breaking down the film, analyzing the trends and pouring over the stats, there is only one conclusion to be made: Not much separates USC and Texas in this matchup.

Leinart, Bush & Co. have not seen a defense this season with the type of speed that the Longhorns will unleash on them. The Trojans' defensive unit is far less heralded, but the talented young group has gotten healthier and stronger as the season has progressed, and confidence is at an all-time high following a stifling performance against UCLA.

Texas' defense is a more proven unit, USC's coverage teams have been dicey and Young is capable of single-handedly taking over any game, including this one. But USC simply finds ways to win, especially when everything is on the line.

USC has outscored its opponents 164 to 35 in the third quarter this season. That's a credit to exceptional halftime adjustments by its coaching staff, as well as on-field leadership when the chips are on the table. The Longhorns will show their championship measure and they may even lead for a good portion of this four-quarter heavyweight bout. But in the end, the Trojans will find yet another way to transcend the moment -- this time cementing Carroll's program as one of the elite in college football history and Leinart as one of the best quarterbacks the collegiate game has ever seen.

Prediction: USC 31, Texas 28




There is no way in hell USC has an advantage on the Oline or the Dline but thats ESPN for you.

And you know this, how?

USC's O Line is responsible for three Heisman winners in four years and record setting performances from everybody they've plugged into the skill positions.

But you, Vito, you know that USC doesn't have the edge on the O Line.

Okay...



I guess this bit of fluffery ties in with your "knowledge" that Texas' coaching stuff works harder than any other coaching staff in America. More indusptable fact from the esteemed Vito...

Btw, what a shocker: They give the edge to USC based on coaching, big game experience and Matt Leinart.

Uhhh, where have you heard that before?

:-)

Van wrote:And you know this, how?

USC's O Line is responsible for three Heisman winners in four years and record setting performances from everybody they've plugged into the skill positions.

But you, Vito, you know that USC doesn't have the edge on the O Line.

Okay...



I guess this bit of fluffery ties in with your "knowledge" that Texas' coaching stuff works harder than any other coaching staff in America. More indusptable fact from the esteemed Vito...

Btw, what a shocker: They give the edge to USC based on coaching, big game experience and Matt Leinart.

Uhhh, where have you heard that before?

:-)

Another great Van analysis. Blah...blah... blahhh.... we are going to win because we have Petey....blah...blah...blah we have 3 hypesmans in the last 4 years.....blah...blah...blah... why are we even playing the game? USC is superior in all aspects....blah...blah...blah.

When are you going to say something that you haven't said for the last 3 months????? Please give me something else then the same old crap. USC's O-line got pushed around by ASU and Fresno St. Only Fresno has a defense that is rated in the TOP 40. SC has a good line but so does Texas. We also have a great D-line. Learn these numbers: 90, 97, 92, 98, 39, 80. You will see plenty of them on the 4th as they pressure Leinert.

Experts can give their opinios but these are the same guys that said OU was going to beat SC last year. Now they are on the SC bandwagon. Let's see how they all jump after Texas wins.

Harvdog, 2+2 = 4 doesn't need a new spin.

Vito simply posted an ESPN analysis that repeated what I've been saying all along: USC will win due to superior coaching, experience and the fact that we have Matt Leinart and you have Vince Young.

You may also add to these things superior overall talent, more explosive weapons, more poise and, maybe best of all, no Vince Young playing QB for us and putting the ball on the ground or in the belly of the opposing secondary.

Then there's that little matter of Reggie being a Trojan, not a Longhorn. :-)

Just make sure you're back in here late in the evening on January 4th, 'cause here are the numbers you'll have ingrained into your dome by then...

-5: No explanation needed

-11: Ditto

-21: You'll have figured it out by then

-4: Number of Longhorn turnovers

-28: The Longhorn's margin of defeat

-3: USC's current streak of national titles

-Infinity: The number of times JSC will petulantly stamp his foot in fruitless rebuttal

-0: The number of national titles the Longhorns have won in over a quarter of a century

I have to hand it to you and the rest of the SoCal tards when someone feeds you shit you people eat it up like it was sushi.

I'm willing to bet that even if the Longhorns win some idiot from ESCN is going to say something to the effect that if thse two teams were to play 100 times SC would win 99 of those and of course Van will be there to eat it up.

ESCN say SC has the greatest offense in the history of college football

Truth is they aren't even the best offense this year, Texas has played statistically better defenses and still out gained USC.

ESCN says USC is the greatest team since the 72 Dolphins

Truth is they are about as equal to Texas as you can get. I find it pretty funny that the ESCN article I posted pretty much favored Texas in every way except the final analysis which the author basically said, USC will win because they will pull a lucky rabbits foot out of their ass.

Well I think the only foot they will be pulling out of their ass will belong to Bevo.

Truth is they are about as equal to Texas as you can get.

Yeah, right up until the stats get thrown out the window and the two teams actually lay it on the line on the field. Then, come the middle of the third quarter, you'll look up at the scoreboard and say to yourself, "What the fuck happened?? We seemed to match up so well...This shit was even, we were right there. Just a little mistake here and there, big deal...It doesn't feel like we should be down by 21....Fuck!"

Enjoy your Big XII based stats there, hero. Maybe as you sit by the fire this winter pondering how your "statistically even" team got shithammered by four TDs in the biggest game in Longhhorns history those stat sheets will finally do you some real good when you crumple 'em up and use 'em for kindling...

I think we'll leave the What the fuck happened comment to SC fan

See you there. I'll be in my foundation seats in the endzone. Not great but my ticket was only $175 ea.

hookem

chum evol

ggil

Very cool indeed to have a ggil sighting after such a long time...

He's too busy gerrymandering to post very often.

I have no idea why I still remember that, what...4-5 years later, but for some childish r4eason I still think it's funny.

thank ya thank ya.

I still got game, but alas no time. I am building a new house, have a second son dgil who is 7months old to go with egil who is now 3.5.

lotsa super heroes in my house.

I'll chime in again after the horns victory and again when Earle's dick gets knocked in the dirt yet again.

For now, a little smack for Matt Line Hart.......just in the email today

Read the story below first
>>
>>quick story you guys might enjoy. went to a party at laurens on
>>saturday night. about 20 people. half of us went to some random bar,
>>the other half went to Marquee (davedigital would definitely know this
>>place). anyways, these 2 girls who were visiting, lauren from texas
>>went to Marquee, i didn't of course
>>opting for the hole in the wall with $3 beers.
>>
>>So yesterday morning, lauren calls me and says "Do you know some guy
>>named Matt Line Hart?" i laugh and say yeah and don't bother to
>>correct her. she says, well he was at Marquee last night, and hit on
one
>>of
>>the girls from texas all night, danced with her, and then was so drunk
he
>>groped her....she turned around and slapped him, and left.
>>i said yea yea, i doubt it even though it kinda made sense that he
>>would be in an upscale club getting trashed after losing the heisman.
i
>>told
>>her i'd believe the story when i saw pictures. wellll, here they
>>are..........

typical that he can't even find SC pussy....not that there's anything wrong with that

thwack!!!!

Rack the shit out of ggil, those pix top the ones med did,

BTW you can't see it but I'm pretty sure that the midget between line hart's legs giving him the sucky is VAN.

ggill, hopefully you're aware by now that this whole "A drunken Leinart hit on some chick who then slapped him!" story has already been debunked by the SI writer who was there reporting on the evening's festivities...

But hey, never let the facts get in the way of of a good story.

Van wrote:ggill, hopefully you're aware by now that this whole "A drunken Leinart hit on some chick who then slapped him!" story has already been debunked by the SI writer who was there reporting on the evening's festivities...

But hey, never let the facts get in the way of of a good story.

you mean like the SI writer who wrote the Mike Price piece? The one based on facts : meds : , the one that cost SI a lot of money for defamation of character? Yeah, SI has soooooo much credibility.



atleast Matt is drinking and trying to pick up some skanks, rather than play jarts at a ren faire festival!

Adelpiero wrote:atleast Matt is drinking and trying to pick up some skanks, rather than play jarts at a ren faire festival!

I like m2 and still that one made me laugh...

debunked by SI? Who was the reporter? Mary Mapes? All I know is the chick who self snapped the digi used to work for a political consultant in Austin.

Those eyes are pretty dialated Matty boy. Let's hope you eat a few lemons before the game and become rumblefish

Vito Corleone wrote: ESCN say SC has the greatest offense in the history of college football

Truth is they aren't even the best offense this year, Texas has played statistically better defenses and still out gained USC.

ESCN says USC is the greatest team since the 72 Dolphins

Thank you for saying this. What the fuck has SC as a team done to be the best team ever? Can anyone look at the defensive side of the ball and say "no," this team doesn't stand a chance. Where is BHuskers when we need him.

Aggregate performance, I'm sure, is what they find most compelling.

One loss in three seasons, and even that one was on the road, in triple O.T., early in the year, with a first year Q.B. They only lost that one due to their kicker.

Over four season there's only three losses and all three were early season losses on the road due to their kicker. Frustrating, aggravating skin of their teeth losses as a result of horribly botched placekicking. It was five seasons ago that USC was last thoroughly beaten.

Combine all that with the explosive and dismissive ease with which they beat teams in big games and then factor in all their All Americans and their three Heisman winners and there's your rationale.

If they destroy undefeated Texas the way they destroyed last year's "Team For The Ages" OU team then yeah, they deserve all this "Best Of All Time" talk...

Of course nobody will ever know how a team from one era ought to stack up against a team from another era but on aggregate performance this USC team will go down as the best team in the modern era if they destroy Texas.

Van wrote:Of course nobody will ever know how a team from one era ought to stack up against a team from another era but on aggregate performance this USC team will go down as the best team in the modern era if they destroy Texas.

So if they destroy a team that you have been saying all along has been overrated, and doesn't even "deserve" to be on the field with SC, how exactly does that put them in a position to be "best of the current era"? It's funny how you validate Texas only when it benefits SC somehow. Has anyone else noticed that?

Im just excited that Keith Jackson and Dan Fouts are doing the game and not Cuntburger and Danielson.

Cicero wrote:Im just excited that Keith Jackson and Dan Fouts are doing the game and not Cuntburger and Danielson.

Are you on crack? Keith needs to retire or die.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

Van wrote:Of course nobody will ever know how a team from one era ought to stack up against a team from another era but on aggregate performance this USC team will go down as the best team in the modern era if they destroy Texas.

So if they destroy a team that you have been saying all along has been overrated, and doesn't even "deserve" to be on the field with SC, how exactly does that put them in a position to be "best of the current era"? It's funny how you validate Texas only when it benefits SC somehow. Has anyone else noticed that?

Bullshit.

-I never said Texas doesn't deserve to be there. Of course they do. Nobody else could even be a possibility.

-USC is making everybody look that bad, once the bowl games are over. It's not that everybody else is so bad, it's that there's a wide gap between #1 and #2.

-Again, aggregate performance. If USC destroys Texas that'll be two years running they ran the table and then destroyed unbeaten "Teams Of The Century" when it was for all the marbles. 1 close road triple O.T. loss two seasons ago, three Heismans and three (two and a half, for the sake of argument) national titles. If not USC then who's been better in the modern era?

For the record if USC does destroy Texas then I will back Van on all his claims.

But it ain't going to happen.

USC defense has had one good game this year but because it was their last game USC fan now thinks they have a good defense. Fact is they don't.

Van wrote: Bullshit.

-I never said Texas doesn't deserve to be there. Of course they do.

Oh really?

Van wrote:I think they will prove that they don't belong on the field with USC in a Rose Bowl for all the marbles

Link: http://www.theoneboard.com/board/viewto ... 1&start=50

I think we're through here.

That's entirely different than saying they don't "deserve" to be there. Of course they deserve to be there because they're the unanimous #2 and the only logical BCS choice.

I just think the actual game will show that they're not on USC's level.

Now we're done here.

Van wrote:That's entirely different than saying they don't "deserve" to be there. Of course they deserve to be there because they're the unanimous #2 and the only logical BCS choice.

I just think the actual game will show that they're not on USC's level.

Now we're done here.

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I love that tiny little bit of fur peeking out over her bikini bottom...

The Tastefully Trimmed Patch, yessiree, it beats the 9 Year Old Girl look eight days a week.

9 year old girl?

For a moment there I didn't know whether to kick your ass or report you to the FBI perv squad, but then I realized that you probably ain't had that tastefully trimmed patch since that tastefully trimmed patch had you.

But it's good to see that you have progressed past kiddie porn to more adult entertainment with adult pictures. I know the vision of Suzie Stinkycrotch showing you hers if you show yours to her is still fresh in your mind, but kiddie porn is not healthy and there are laws against it.

Vito Corleone wrote:9 year old girl?

For a moment there I didn't know whether to kick your ass or report you to the FBI perv squad, but then I realized that you probably ain't had that tastefully trimmed patch since that tastefully trimmed patch had you.

But it's good to see that you have progressed past kiddie porn to more adult entertainment with adult pictures. I know the vision of Suzie Stinkycrotch showing you hers if you show yours to her is still fresh in your mind, but kiddie porn is not healthy and there are laws against it.

Wow, overreact much? Should we take "True Lies" off the market because Paxton compares a chick's ass to that of a 10 year old boy?

Vito, you fucking idiot, re-read what I wrote and try again. I guarantee you you're the only one who took it that way.

Van wrote:That's entirely different than saying they don't "deserve" to be there. Of course they deserve to be there because they're the unanimous #2 and the only logical BCS choice.

I just think the actual game will show that they're not on USC's level.

Now we're done here.

That's not the context in which I was using the word "deserve". Of course they deserve to be there according to the way the BCS is set up. I really don't see the difference between you using the word "belong" and "deserve". Either way, you don't feel Texas is worthy enough to be on the field with SC, meaning, if SC kicks the shit ouf of them like you say they're "supposed to", I don't see how SC doing what they're supposed to do should award them any sort of moniker like "greatest team of the current era". For doing something that you claim they SHOULD do? If they're supposed to crush Texas, why should that award them anything extra? Get my drift? Beuhller? Logic? Anyone?

Simple. Only the greatest team of the modern era is going to crush undefeated and awesome OU and Texas back to back while also dropping in three Heismans in a four year span...

Texas is obviously a great (though I feel overrated) college team. If USC crushes them it shows how good USC is, not how poor Texas is. Texas deserves to play in the game but I think when the game is over people will say, yeah, Texas isn't on USC's level.

It'll just be final proof of the large gap between USC and everybody else and that's why they'd then go down as the greatest team of the modern era.

Van wrote:Simple. Only the greatest team of the modern era is going to crush undefeated and awesome OU and Texas back to back while also dropping in three Heismans in a four year span...

Texas is obviously a great (though I feel overrated) college team. If USC crushes them it shows how good USC is, not how poor Texas is. Texas deserves to play in the game but I think when the game is over people will say, yeah, Texas isn't on USC's level.

It'll just be final proof of the large gap between USC and everybody else and that's why they'd then go down as the greatest team of the modern era.

Van, forgive my laziness to scroll back and re-read, but are you arguing greatest single team, or greatest "dynasty run"? If you're arguing greatest dynasty, then I might be on board with you. If you're arguing greatest single team in a single year, then I'd say not even close.

Probably best team over a period of time, definitely. I'd actually say last year's less injury plagued squad was better than this year's...

If they destroy Texas I also wouldn't have any problem in calling this year's offense the greatest in the modern era.

Van wrote:Probably best team over a period of time, definitely. I'd actually say last year's less injury plagued squad was better than this year's...

last years team is better, last years defense was tough, this year a lot of youth and injuries. And as i have said since year started, L. White will be the Better pro over Bush and Leinhart.(finally people around country, media are getting it) White has the speed and power. He is a 30-35 carry back, won;t need a goaline back to spell him.

Just like next years USC will have a lot of trouble duplicating either team.(bush.leinhart, and possibly l.white al lgone from Offense)

Adel, Lendale needs to guard against getting too heavy and slow once he's in the NFL. He could easily get fat.

Van wrote:Adel, Lendale needs to guard against getting too heavy and slow once he's in the NFL. He could easily get fat.

very true, but i think he could be the best of the bunch


one thing to be fast with smaller frame, but to be built like white and have that speed is sick!


rumor i heard, was that Sanchez has a great shot at starting at QB next year. He has a ton of tools, touch,zip,distance, you name it. Totally impressed with him and Rouse(fsu wr). They were clearly the best at their positions coming out of HS.

For the record if USC does destroy Texas then I will back Van on all his claims.

rack this monumental undertaking.

If USC destroys Texas hindsight will make all my "claims" seem like Marcus Allen resets and eight months from now everybody in here will be saying they knew Texas never stood a chance...

I'm just not waiting until after the fact to give my Marcus Allen take on this one.

:-)

Jsc810 wrote:

Van wrote:-3: USC's current streak of national titles

-Infinity: The number of times JSC will petulantly stamp his foot in fruitless rebuttal

Hype or revisionist history? You decide.

So are you willing to give up your shared title in 1958? Afterall, it was the AP who recognized that title.

Van wrote:If USC destroys Texas hindsight will make all my "claims" seem like Marcus Allen resets and eight months from now everybody in here will be saying they knew Texas never stood a chance...

I'm just not waiting until after the fact to give my Marcus Allen take on this one.

:-)

And if Texas does to USC what they did to Nebraska in 96 you will look like a dumbass.