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Fuckin' dude is another ESPN overblown bust. Sure he has some moves and speed but he's a part time RB in the NFL at best who will end up having no where near as much success at the next level. Not to mention he isn't too smart....as in lame lateral.....

ESPN and most of the media tend to ride the jocks of all the highlight clip players....Reggie is just the current college highlight stud to NFL dude of a long line to follow.

Lendale White is the RB NFL teams should be looking at.

Matt Leinart isn't far behind, not enough accuracy. Kyle Boller II.

by far the dumbest play I've seen in a long time. STOOPID decision by Bush to lateral the ball.

The Assassin wrote:by far the dumbest play I've seen in a long time. STOOPID decision by Bush to lateral the ball.

Wow

Considering the amount of stupid football plays you must have seen from chokeland over the last three years that's saying something.

Still I'd reluctantly take Bush on my team.

....and Maurice Clarett.....nuff said.

Joe in PB wrote:....and Maurice Clarett.....nuff said.

Sincerely,

Ryan Leaf

Keep running that compensation 3rd round bust smack tard.

You know that guy who was cut months and months ago.

It must make missing the playoffs slightly less painful

icantstopfarting wrote:

The Assassin wrote:by far the dumbest play I've seen in a long time. STOOPID decision by Bush to lateral the ball.

Wow

Considering the amount of stupid football plays you must have seen from chokeland over the last three years that's saying something.

Still I'd reluctantly take Bush on my team.

Never said I didnt want him,but that was a dumb decision. Sort of like the dumb decision your dad made not wearing a condom. :wink:

Sort of like the dumb decision your dad made not wearing a condom.

Buwahahaha

Nice.

Just pointing out you are the same tard who applauded his selection, 3rd rd wasted pick is a wasted pick, compulsory or not.

I don't see much difference between Bush and Justin Fargas.

Joe in PB wrote:Just pointing out you are the same tard who applauded his selection, 3rd rd wasted pick is a wasted pick, compulsory or not.
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Link?

icantstopfarting Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:14 pm

Clarett was chosen with a compensatory pick by Denver. It was essentially an extra pick in the third round. Why not take a flyer on him there?

Exactly.

In other words you thought picking him up was a good move........

Stick to what you know like stinking up your bed room....as opposed to the board.

I think an NFL team will have to use Bush correctly, and if so, they'll get a lot out of him.

If they try to make him an every down back I think they'll end up disappointed.

Get him 15 touches a game as a kick and punt returner, a ball carrier (draws, screens, swing-passes), and a slot receiver.
Get him matched-up with a LB and let him do his thang.

If you get him those touches he's prolly gonna break one or two a game for big yards.

He's a dazzling talent with sweet open-field moves and tremendous speed.


Lienart has been driving a Rolls Royce the past couple of college seasons.
Great O-line, super system, great backs, great overall team talent.
To my eye, he appears slightly 'slow' in his delivery and in his mannerisms.
I think he's gonna find the pro game a LOT faster.
I don't see him as nearly a 'sure thing' prospect as an NFL QB.
50% chance he'll be a 'good' pro.
20% or less chance he'll be a great pro.

my .02

I pretty much agree with your take pops.

Get him 15 touches a game as a kick and punt returner, a ball carrier (draws, screens, swing-passes), and a slot receiver.

That doesn't sound like the description of a #1 selection, as the media would have you believe he is. And if he is taken #1 overall & ends up being a part time RB/ special team player.....he will be a disappointment or bust considering the amount of cap space he'll occupy

I'll stick to my gut feeling that LenDale White will end up the better NFL player.

White is going to be like an Eddie George back. I think Reggie will be fine but he is going to have to become more of a north/south runner. The guys in the NFL arent going to byte on his jukes.

One fumble and you're already calling him a bust...

Joe in PB wrote:I pretty much agree with your take pops.

Get him 15 touches a game as a kick and punt returner, a ball carrier (draws, screens, swing-passes), and a slot receiver.

That doesn't sound like the description of a #1 selection, as the media would have you believe he is.

I'll stick to my gut feeling that LenDale White will end up the better NFL player.

I find it damn hard to disagree with either you or tart on this. I've had a nagging feeling that whomever picks Bush (presuming he goes in the top 5) will wish they had chosen someone more NFL ready. In particular, I think the Texans are absolutely insane if they dump a proven NFL back like Dominak Davis for Bush.

Joe in PB wrote:Just pointing out you are the same tard who applauded his selection, 3rd rd wasted pick is a wasted pick, compulsory or not.

I don't see much difference between Bush and Justin Fargas.

Compensatory.

The lateral play was a bad move by a guy just trying to make a play. I hardly call a guy who put up 170+ combined yards and a TD a bust.

I agree with you in Leinart.

BSmack wrote:

Joe in PB wrote:I pretty much agree with your take pops.

Get him 15 touches a game as a kick and punt returner, a ball carrier (draws, screens, swing-passes), and a slot receiver.

That doesn't sound like the description of a #1 selection, as the media would have you believe he is.

I'll stick to my gut feeling that LenDale White will end up the better NFL player.

I find it damn hard to disagree with either you or tart on this. I've had a nagging feeling that whomever picks Bush (presuming he goes in the top 5) will wish they had chosen someone more NFL ready. In particular, I think the Texans are absolutely insane if they dump a proven NFL back like Dominak Davis for Bush.

As I understand it, they're going to keep both. After all, apparently Bush is not a 4th and 1 guy.

If I was to build a team around one of three superstars from last night, no question I'd take Vince. The guts and determination he showed was legendary. Throw all of the comparisons to Vick you want but I doubt RM would've done that last night. Leinart and Bush will still be very good pros but if Vince did declare for the draft, I would give my first born for the Lions to get him in the draft.

Bush reminds me of Brian Westbrook.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Bush and Whineart are both legit top-tier NFL prospects. What a team can accomplish with them in terms of development remains to be seen...but it has everything to do with the scenario they find themselves in.


There are VERY few kids who can come in and thrive as rookies for teams that are all but shot except for the chance at a #1 pick. This was my take when LJ was drafted by the Chiefs...it was actually perfect, in terms of his development. If he had gone to a team that needed to start him right away, he never would have been successful. The couple of years spent developing behind Priest Holmes - as odious as he found them - were definitely productive for Larry.

Whineart and Bush will probably go to teams that won't be able to succeed with them immediately.

Nixhex wrote:Bush reminds me of Brian Westbrook.

But faster. Not a bad comparison though.

mvscal wrote:

Cicero wrote:White is going to be like an Eddie George back.

A borderline Hall of Famer?

If you must.

And if he is taken #1 overall & ends up being a part time RB/ special team player.....he will be a disappointment or bust considering the amount of cap space he'll occupy

I think this statement defines my assertion.

Vince Young was the best player on the field yesterday, but USC's LB's and defense as a whole were slow and weak. None of them could bring down Young by themselves. That won't be the case in the NFL. He does remind me of Culpepper though.

jiminphilly wrote:

Nixhex wrote:Bush reminds me of Brian Westbrook.

But faster. Not a bad comparison though.

I'll compare him to another former Heisman winner with comparable skills - Barry Sanders.

He turned out to be a pretty good pro.


As far as Vince Young goes, he's an outstanding talent who had the biggest game of his life when it mattered the most. Aside from last night, didn't see him play at all this year. Can he throw the ball downfield? He only averaged about 7 yards a reception last night. If SC did a better job tackling, it probably would have been much less. And he certainly won't run in the NFL like he did last night because, needless to say, NFL players are faster, can tackle and hit much harder.

Cicero wrote: The guys in the NFL arent going to byte on his jukes.

Sincerely,
Barry Sanders and Gayle Sayers

mvscal wrote:No way he's in that class. He's a good player, but seriously overhyped.

Honestly, I think White will make the better pro.

I like both and I think you could be correct on White. Any idea where he is being predicted to go in the draft? I thought I read he may slip to the end of the 1st round but after last night's performance I wonder if he'll get in the top half. He'd be a steal if he lasted longer than the first 15.

As for Bush, he has a lot to prove and the pressure will be on. Who Houston brings in as a coach will probably determine if they go after Bush or not.

I heard on ESPN radio before yesterdays game that White was projected somewhere near the 5th pick in the draft.

As for Bush, he has a lot to prove and the pressure will be on. Who Houston brings in as a coach....

If Houston doesn't get a lot more help on their Oline Bush isn't going anywhere.....literally. :wink:

Charley Casserly is gonna hear a LOT of noise from Texan fan about drafting Vince Young with the first pick in the draft.

Young is a Houston local kid.

poptart wrote:Charley Casserly is gonna hear a LOT of noise from Texan fan about drafting Vince Young with the first pick in the draft.

Young is a Houston local kid.

Vince Young would make a fine wide reciever. Maybe even a kick returner.

Is he staying in school...?

I think it would be a good decision.

mvscal wrote:

poptart wrote:Charley Casserly is gonna hear a LOT of noise from Texan fan about drafting Vince Young with the first pick in the draft.

Young is a Houston local kid.

Maybe next year.

Yeah- it seems appropriate that Houston would have the #1 pick again next year as well.

Good debate, I'm with PSU in that Bush will, without a doubt, land on a very bad team. He possibly could be used and abused into early retirement well before said team even becomes competitive, hopefully not.

mvscal wrote:Yeah, he said he's coming back for his senior year.

He said that prior to the Rose Bowl. Last I heard he went back to the table with his "advisors" and are considering coming out for the draft. Is there a link confirming him staying at Texas?

Getting drafted by a lame team sucks.

Sin,
John Elway


Drafting the bitchiest, cryingest, whiningest pussy in history sucks even more.

Sin,
The Colts

Seems to me that with another year left of eligibility, #5 has some options.

DallasFanatic wrote:

mvscal wrote:Yeah, he said he's coming back for his senior year.

He said that prior to the Rose Bowl. Last I heard he went back to the table with his "advisors" and are considering coming out for the draft. Is there a link confirming him staying at Texas?

Just watched espn and through all the interviews they had it seems like he has not made up his mind.

mvscal wrote:He's said he's coming back numerous times this year and as recently as this week. The Rose Bowl changes nothing.

Wishful thinking from a lowly chargerfan knowing that they will have the first pick in next year's draft.

mvscal wrote: What? Last night? I'm not buying it.

The Rose Bowl changes nothing.

Yep, last night he shyed away from saying he would be back. Then ESPN said he was going to think it over. And if you think his performance in the Rose Bowl changes nothing, then you are an idiot.

Winning a heisman trophy solidifies your spot in the HOF.

Sincerely,

Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
Vinnie Testaverde
Doug Flutie

See where I'm going with this? Heisman means shit and Mack Daddy even knows Vince is gone. He has until the 15th to declare. Bank on it.

mvscal wrote:Mack Brown seldom if ever loses underclassmen to the draft.

especially ones that are MVP's of the BCS championship game.

jackass.