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Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:02 am**

We all know ESPN and the tard bunch will be lackeys for Notre Dame, but who else will be overrated?

1. Notre Dame
2. West Virginia will lose 2 conference games
3. LSU Games @Florida,@Auburn could end up with 3 conf losses

Sleeper Overrated: Nebraska, after all, they are Back.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:12 am**

Iowa, Oregon, and Florida.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:12 am**

I think Oregon will start out at about the 12-16 range, which is about right. We'll have a shot to put things together and finish higher than that, and likely won't finish too much worse.

USC will start in the Top-5. So, 2 losses and they are "overated". 2 losses seems realistic with all that they lose, but who knows.

Notre Dame is being talked about as a possible #1 next year? They have to be the consensous #1 Overated team. 2 losses again, at best, for them.

I see some people putting Cal back in the top 10. If that happens, they are up there, for overated teams.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:18 am**

Believe the Heupel wrote:Oklahoma, USC

Yep.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:22 am**

Okie, Notre Dame, FSU, UF and Michigan.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:33 am**

If USC is even ranked in the preseason top ten next year then they'll be overrated.

You can't lose (so far...

) your entire offensive backfield, your two best offensive linemen and your best defensive player and hope to compete at the highest level...especially when five of those six players were juniors.

It's not like we lost them all to graduation and their back ups are all groomed for the occasion and ready to go. No, we'll be doing a lot of stopgap shuffling and we'll likely be playing a lot of wholly untested pups who by all rights should've had to've waited another year before they became starters.

I suspect our overall talent level will still be enough to net us nine or maybe even ten wins but I'm guessing we'll be in a lot of close games and we may very well finally get our asses truly kicked by somebody, which hasn't happened for at least five seasons.

Because Brady Quinn is returning yeah, ND will be ranked very high. I'd also expect LSU to be ranked highly and I expect Ohio State to be the preseason #1...

Oh, wait, scratch that. What was I thinking??

Cal!!

Obviously! It's gotta be Cal! Cal already has their ticket stamped for the title game, right??

:-)

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:50 am**

It's not like we lost them all to graduation

Don't worry, it's not like they were ever going to graduate anyway.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:54 am**

Laxplayer wrote:
It's not like we lost them all to graduation
Don't worry, it's not like they were ever going to graduate anyway.

Okay...

It's not like we lost them all due to their football eligibility being up...

Smartass.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:58 am**

USC has had some of the highest graduation rates of the BCS bowl teams the last 4 years

I dont think the Trojans should be ranked in the top 15 this pre season, what did they lose 6,7 juniors? If theyre above the top 15, they'll be over rated

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:00 pm**

Adelpiero wrote:We all know ESPN and the tard bunch will be lackeys for Notre Dame,

I'll admit that portions of the media sometimes overrate ND, but ESPN historically has been anything but a watercarrier for ND. For years ESPN has been leading the drumbeat about college football has passed ND by, ND needs to join a conference, etc., etc. Not to mention that it was ESPN who implied that Willingham's firing was racially motivated, and it was ESPN who predicted that ND would start the season 0-6. Also, of course, ND's glory days are prior to the start of ESPN, and ESPN is notorious for thinking that anything that happened prior to its existence doesn't matter. But don't let facts get in the way of a good anti-ND diatribe. :wink:

As for ND being overrated, we'll certainly be ranked highly entering next season, and for that matter that should be expected. And I believe that we could, not necessarily will but certainly could, contend for a national championship. If we accomplish that, by definition we won't be overrated.

As for who will, I would say USC, FSU, UF, 'Bama, LSU, OU, Texas and Michigan are likely suspects.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:01 pm**

Van wrote:

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:57 pm**

Cicero wrote:Okie, Notre Dame, FSU, UF and Michigan.

I forgot to add Miami.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:21 pm**

Adelpiero wrote:2. West Virginia will lose 2 conference games

Here is WVU's Big East schedule for 2006:

HOME - USF, Rutgers, Syracuse, Cincinnati

ROAD - Louisville, UConn, Pitt

I don't see 2 losses there. Louisville might have the best shot at knocking WVU off since they have an offense that can score points. USF and Pitt can hang tough with their D, but they don't have the offense.

WVU is going to be a darkhorse contender for the Fiesta Bowl.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:31 pm**

Buffalo Bills
Dallas Cowboys
Miami Dolphins
New York Giants
New England Patriots
Philadelphia Eagles
New York Jets
Washington Redskins
Baltimore Ravens
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions
Cleveland Browns
Green Bay Packers
Pittsburgh Steelers
Minnesota Vikings
Houston Texans
Atlanta Falcons
Indianapolis Colts
Carolina Panthers
Jacksonville Jaguars
New Orleans Saints
Tennessee Titans
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Denver Broncos
Arizona Cardinals
Kansas City Chiefs
St. Louis Rams
Oakland Raiders
San Francisco 49ers
San Diego Chargers
Seattle Seahawks
Air Force
Akron
Arizona
Arizona State
Arkansas State
Army
Ball State
Baylor
Boise State
Boston College
Bowling Green
Buffalo
BYU
California
Central Florida
Central Michigan
Cincinnati
Clemson
Colorado
Colorado State
Connecticut
Duke
East Carolina
Eastern Michigan
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Florida State
Fresno State
Georgia Tech
Hawaii
Houston
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Kent State
La Lafayette
Louisiana Monroe
Louisiana Tech
Louisville
Marshall
Maryland
Memphis
Miami Fla
Miami Ohio
Michigan
Michigan State
Middle Tenn. St.
Minnesota
Missouri
N.C. State
Navy
Nebraska
Nevada
New Mexico
New Mexico State
North Carolina
North Texas
Northern Illinois
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Oregon
Oregon State
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Rice
Rutgers
San Diego State
San Jose State
SMU
South Florida
Southern Miss
Stanford
Syracuse
TCU
Temple
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Toledo
Troy State
Tulane
Tulsa
UAB
UCLA
UNLV
USC
Utah
Utah State
UTEP
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
Washington
Washington State
West Virginia
Western Michigan
Wisconsin
Wyoming

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:50 pm**

^^^^

So besides UF, USC wont be overrated?

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:51 pm**

MuchoBulls wrote:WVU is going to be a darkhorse contender for the Fiesta Bowl.

And possibly for the BCS National Championship Game. :wink:

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:54 pm**

2006 Overrated
Miami - definitely
USC - maybe
Oklahoma - I don't think so

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:17 pm**

Terry in Crapchester wrote: As for ND being overrated, we'll certainly be ranked highly entering next season, and for that matter that should be expected. And I believe that we could, not necessarily will but certainly could, contend for a national championship. If we accomplish that, by definition we won't be overrated.

So, you're saying that IF you win a national championship next year, you won't be overrated?

Thanks for clearing that up, Marcus

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:47 pm**

JayDuck wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote: As for ND being overrated, we'll certainly be ranked highly entering next season, and for that matter that should be expected. And I believe that we could, not necessarily will but certainly could, contend for a national championship. If we accomplish that, by definition we won't be overrated.

So, you're saying that IF you win a national championship next year, you won't be overrated?

Thanks for clearing that up, Marcus

Uhh, not exactly.

We'll probably be a preseason Top 5. If we contend for (not necessarily win) a national championship, how could anyone say we're overrated?

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:57 pm**

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:03 pm**

UF? They'll be top ten. Right where they should start. They have some tough games. Their ranking will be well earned high or low. Talent everywhere.

I would like to hear reasoning why UF would be overrated.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:17 pm**

Texas - Will be rated in top 3 to start the year, but have to replace VY obviously. It's a hard order.
USC - In top 3, replacing 3 playmakers
Michigan - Like always, they'll start near the top 5 and flounder.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:30 pm**

L45B wrote:And possibly for the BCS National Championship Game. :wink:

That's what I meant. I was too lazy to type it out. :wink:

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:44 pm**

If you want to play that game . . .

JayDuck wrote:Notre Dame is being talked about as a possible #1 next year? They have to be the consensous #1 Overated team. 2 losses again, at best, for them.

I know it's early, but I haven't heard anyone yet say anything about ND being a #1. Consensus #1 overrated?

Wouldn't it make more sense to see where ND is ranked before making such a statement?

And 2 losses, at best?

Again, maybe I'm looking at it as a homer, but I see an undefeated season next year as a possibility. Note that two of the tougher teams on our schedule next year (Michigan and USC) are showing up on a lot of lists on this thread.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:46 pm**

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I'm looking at it as a homer

Notre Dame doesn't have undefeated talent, and Charlie Weis has not created the Heavens and the Earth, yet.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:50 pm**

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I know it's early, but I haven't heard anyone yet say anything about ND being a #1. Consensus #1 overrated? Wouldn't it make more sense to see where ND is ranked before making such a statement?

Beano said ND vs. OSU/Texas winner in the BCS Championship game with ND winning it all. By stating this, Beano is ranking them in the top 3, if not #1.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:05 pm**

Okay...

It's not like we lost them all due to their football eligibility being up...

Smartass.

Lendal's quote in the paper a few days ago speaks volumes.
On declaring for the NFL Lendale said,
"Well I don't feel I got nothing left to prove."

Nice, ever make it to class. Not to mention Chauncey Washington who's been ineligible since he got accepted. How did he get accepted anyway?

I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass like these geniuses.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:09 pm**

I find it hard to see the word "overrated" and not quickly have my mind turn to "Beamerball".

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:34 pm**

Lax, you're enjoying this way too much.

:-)

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:35 pm**

No way in hell is Texas in the top 3, hell I don't even have them in my top 10. I think they end up with 3 losses and they start up and end up in the 11-15 range.

If Texas is anywhere near the top 5, they will officially be the most overrated team in college football.

No team that goes into next season with 3 freshmen QBs should be anywhere close to a top 10 team.

Now if One of those QBs does pan out then Texas is going to one hell of a tough team to beat because of their talent around that freshmen QB.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:17 pm**

JayDuck wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:I'm looking at it as a homer
Notre Dame doesn't have undefeated talent, and Charlie Weis has not created the Heavens and the Earth, yet.

I see you left out the "maybe" part of my quote, as well as the rest.

ND does have enough talent to go undefeated. Would some luck be involved if they did? Sure, but some luck is always involved with any undefeated season. Every team has at least one team on its schedule that could knock them off, under the right set of circumstances.

Besides, like I said, I honestly don't see ND going in to the preseason in the Top 3. 4 or 5 is more like it. You don't need an undefeated season to justify that ranking.

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:26 pm**

One thing is for sure...Brady Quinn will be on the cover of SI in the College Football Preview.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:17 am**

IndyFrisco wrote:One thing is for sure...Brady Quinn will be on the cover of SI in the College Football Preview.

Or his sister.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:34 am**

I'd hate to say it but Notre Dame is going to be really good next year considering Quinn is staying around for his senior year. Walker is only going to be a junior and there's Samardzija (had to look up the spelling) of course. They lose a good tight end in Fasano and their power back, Powers-Neal and two solid linebackers, Hoyte and Mays. Plus, their kicker DJ Fitzpatrick graduates. Weis will have pretty much the same team coming back. I wouldn't be shocked to see them in the BCS again but I don't think I can call them a title contender. They have only two tough road games...MSU and USC. If they get through Tech, Penn State, Michigan and Michigan State at 4-0, we'll know if they're for real or not. That is probably the toughest part of their schedule until they go visit USC on the last week of the season.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:55 pm**

Believe the Heupel wrote:If Oklahoma can go 13-0 with the talent on the 2000 squad, Notre Dame can go 13-0 with the talent currently on their roster. Overall talent level is much higher, and Notre Dame isn't going to have to beat top-5 Kansas State, Texas, and Nebraska back-to-back-to-back.

All it takes is some breaks falling your way and a severe ass-whipping of a traditional rival.

For that matter, you could say the same thing about ND's 1988 team. There's more overall talent on this team than there was on the '88 team (albeit less depth at running back, and the '88 team probably had more talent in the secondary). And this team won't have to beat a team ranked #1 (Miami), a team ranked #2 (USC) and a team ranked #3 (Michigan) each at the time ND played them.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:05 pm**

Shoalzie wrote:I'd hate to say it but Notre Dame is going to be really good next year considering Quinn is staying around for his senior year. Walker is only going to be a junior and there's Samardzija (had to look up the spelling) of course. They lose a good tight end in Fasano and their power back, Powers-Neal and two solid linebackers, Hoyte and Mays. Plus, their kicker DJ Fitzpatrick graduates. Weis will have pretty much the same team coming back. I wouldn't be shocked to see them in the BCS again but I don't think I can call them a title contender. They have only two tough road games...MSU and USC. If they get through Tech, Penn State, Michigan and Michigan State at 4-0, we'll know if they're for real or not. That is probably the toughest part of their schedule until they go visit USC on the last week of the season.

Fasano can petition for a fifth year, I don't know whether he's made up his mind on that or not. Powers-Neal was benched mid-season following a DUI arrest, so his departure doesn't hurt us drastically.

We also lose Landri, who's been an anchor on the DL, and Stovall, who really blossomed his senior season. As I said before, though, McKnight's injury turned out to be a blessing in disguise, as it allowed Samardzija to develop, and McKnight now has the option of returning for a fifth year, assuming, of course, that he was able to rehab successfully.

On the LB corps, it'll be interesting to see if Vernaglia can step in and help fill one of the two losses. He was one of the most sought after players in the country a few years back, and wound up choosing ND over 'SC. But a classmate of his (Crum) was able to crack the starting lineup before he did. Position may have had something to do with it, but I thought Vernaglia was a classic Will Backer myself, maybe the coaching staff is doing something different with him.

As for the schedule, in addition to the games you mentioned, Georgia Tech on the road is a tough opener. We should be a more talented team than they are, but they always have the potential to jump up and surprise someone ('sup, Miami). Of course, the fact that it's not a bowl game takes away their biggest equalizer in that matchup, see 98-99 Gator Bowl. :twisted:

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:26 pm**

Fasano decided to give up his 5th year, but ND does get Landri back. The biggest thing will be replacing 2 starting LB's, or possibly all 3 depending on how Crum's back surgery went.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:27 pm**

Terry in Crapchester wrote:For that matter, you could say the same thing about ND's 1988 team. There's more overall talent on this team than there was on the '88 team (albeit less depth at running back, and the '88 team probably had more talent in the secondary). And this team won't have to beat a team ranked #1 (Miami), a team ranked #2 (USC) and a team ranked #3 (Michigan) each at the time ND played them.

Nice reset, Terry. I'm sure you didn't forget that they beat #3 West Virginia as well. :wink:

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:04 pm**

L45B wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:For that matter, you could say the same thing about ND's 1988 team. There's more overall talent on this team than there was on the '88 team (albeit less depth at running back, and the '88 team probably had more talent in the secondary). And this team won't have to beat a team ranked #1 (Miami), a team ranked #2 (USC) and a team ranked #3 (Michigan) each at the time ND played them.
Nice reset, Terry. I'm sure you didn't forget that they beat #3 West Virginia as well. :wink:

True, but that was a bowl game; the others were regular-season games. If ND gets through next year undefeated, they'll most likely be facing a team ranked higher than 3 in their bowl game.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:31 pm**

Believe the Heupel wrote:Well, yeah. They'll be facing either #1 or #2.

..

Of course, which is why I didn't mention the West Virginia game in my recap of the '88 season.

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