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OK fowarding Iran to full U.N. Security Council for consideration of sanctions. Just heard it on the radio ... link to follow.

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You don't actually think sanctions mean anything to them, do you?

Hopefully this won't eventually become another Bush shortcut to invasion.
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Security Council to Review Iran Nuke Case

LONDON (AP) - The United States and other permanent members of the U.N. Security Council agreed Monday that Iran should be hauled before that powerful body over its disputed nuclear program.

China and Russia, longtime allies and trading partners of Iran, signed on to a statement that calls on the U.N. nuclear watchdog to transfer the Iran dossier to the Security Council, which could impose sanctions or take other harsh action.

Foreign ministers from those nations, plus the United States, Britain and France, also said the Security Council should wait until March to take up the Iran case, after a formal report on Tehran's activities from the watchdog agency.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other foreign ministers discussed Iran at a private dinner at the home of British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. After the four-hour meeting, which spilled over into the early hours Tuesday, a joint statement called on the International Atomic Energy Agency to report the Iran case when it meets in Vienna on Thursday.

Foreign ministers from Germany and the European Union also attended the dinner and agreed to what amounted to a compromise — take the case to the Security Council but allow a short breather before the council must undertake what could be a divisive debate.
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RadioFan wrote:Security Council to Review Iran Nuke Case

LONDON (AP) - The United States and other permanent members of the U.N. Security Council agreed Monday that Iran should be hauled before that powerful body over its disputed nuclear program.

China and Russia, longtime allies and trading partners of Iran, signed on to a statement that calls on the U.N. nuclear watchdog to transfer the Iran dossier to the Security Council, which could impose sanctions or take other harsh action.
I think a firmly worded note of reprimand is just the thing.
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What would you suggest? Closing your eyes and putting your head in the sand until the day that fuckface comes on worldwide TV to announce they've got nukes and have provided them to their "brothers" throughout the world?

Not that Israel nor the U.S. nor Briton would allow it to come to that ...

This is just the first step. Should have been taken months ago.
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I've got an idea.
Why don't you bomb Iran, then invade them, resulting in a long, painful occupation resulting in many American deaths. No amount of American youth's blood should be spared.

As long as a single hair on a single Jewish head isn't disturbed, I'm sure they may take a second or so to show some sort of gratitude. (I doubt it.)

So, get to work, bitches. You feel the lash of your master's whip?
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Martyred wrote:So, get to work, bitches.
Did anyone refer to your U.S. boyfriend here? I didn't think so. Now get your ass up and put up your pants, douche. He'll fuck you later. It's discussion time for now.
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RadioFan wrote:
Martyred wrote:So, get to work, bitches.
Did anyone refer to your U.S. boyfriend here? I didn't think so. Now get your ass up and put up your pants, douche. He'll fuck you later. It's discussion time for now.
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RadioFan wrote:What would you suggest? Closing your eyes and putting your head in the sand until the day that fuckface comes on worldwide TV to announce they've got nukes and have provided them to their "brothers" throughout the world?

Not that Israel nor the U.S. nor Briton would allow it to come to that ...

This is just the first step. Should have been taken months ago.
I would suggest that every nation in the world grow some hair on their balls and send a few dozen ships each to the middle east and tell Iran that if they don't fucking follow the international rules on nuclear proliferation they will be flattened from a distance and all their nuclear technology taken away from them.

But that will never happen, and if you think the UN is anything but a useless body of gas passers you are fooling yourself.

Look back on the 17 or more resolutions they passed regarding Iraq and saddam. That worked well, didn't it?
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Martyred wrote:If it's anything like the fucking the American taxpayers have been getting from backstabbing,
ungrateful Israeli's, I'll be sure to bring plenty of lube.
Ah yes, the Israelis are really a drain on our economy. It must comparable to your budget for Jijhad videos compared to rent.

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Mister Bushice wrote: I would suggest that every nation in the world grow some hair on their balls and send a few dozen ships each to the middle east and tell Israel that if they don't fucking follow the international rules on nuclear proliferation they will be flattened from a distance and all their nuclear technology taken away from them.

But that will never happen, and if you think the UN is anything but a useless body of gas passers you are fooling yourself.

Look back on the hundreds of resolutions they passed regarding The West Bank and Gaza. That worked well, didn't it?
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RadioFan wrote: Ah yes, the Israelis are really a drain on our economy. It must comparable to your budget for Jijhad videos compared to rent.
Nice to see that you know what's good for the American taxpayer.
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The minute that Israel gets firm intel that Iran is close to getting a nuke and capable of delivering it, they'll swoop in there with a squadron of F-16's or other US provided aircraft and take that capability out.

Israel is funny about protecting their existance that way.
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Martyred wrote:
RadioFan wrote: Ah yes, the Israelis are really a drain on our economy. It must comparable to your budget for Jijhad videos compared to rent.
Nice to see that you know what's good for the American taxpayer.
Not nice to see you've got your head up your ass.

Whatever works. :wink:
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War Wagon wrote:The minute that Israel gets firm intel that Iran is close to getting a nuke and capable of delivering it, they'll swoop in there with a squadron of F-16's or other US provided aircraft and take that capability out.

Israel is funny about protecting their existance that way.
Fine with me.
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Mister Bushice wrote:if they don't fucking follow the international rules on nuclear proliferation they will be flattened from a distance and all their nuclear technology taken away from them.
Iran has not violated a single law of the NPT. End of.
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No thanks. I was right the first time.
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Dr_Phibes wrote:No thanks. I was right the first time.
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Damn Phibes, you're smokin'.
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Well I did watch 'Grapes Of Wrath' today.
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Dr_Phibes wrote:Well I did watch 'Grapes Of Wrath' today.
The colourized version?
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Dr_Phibes wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:if they don't fucking follow the international rules on nuclear proliferation they will be flattened from a distance and all their nuclear technology taken away from them.
Iran has not violated a single law of the NPT. End of.
given their hardline stance on western cultures, thevery nature of extremists muslim attitudes and practices and the fact that they said israel should be destroyed, do you think giving them the opportunity to do so is a wise one?
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You know, I would like the potential of invading Iran on the US' table, but some dumbfuck got us to use our troops in some other war and we can't do shit right now.

North Koreal realized that and told us they had nukes. Iran was a little late to the party, but they are going through with it.

Based on the fuckjob in Iraq, any concerns we express to any other country will go unnoticed.

So, Iran will have their nukes and no one will stop them, because there was a little distraction called Iraq.
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Do you even know anything about Iran, besides what your boogey-man media tells you?

They are a nation of laws. The understanding of law is paramount to the Persian ethos.
They think you're the "backwards" ones.
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mvscal wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote:No thanks. I was right the first time.
You don't enrich uranium to 70% to generate power, dumbfuck.
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Mister Bushice wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:if they don't fucking follow the international rules on nuclear proliferation they will be flattened from a distance and all their nuclear technology taken away from them.
Iran has not violated a single law of the NPT. End of.
given their hardline stance on western cultures, thevery nature of extremists muslim attitudes and practices and the fact that they said israel should be destroyed, do you think giving them the opportunity to do so is a wise one?
It isn't, but who is going to stop them, us?

Iran is full of nutjobs to be killed, who is going to do it? Not us!

Bush: "Yeh, we got a problem in Iran, can we ask for more of your children?"

America: FUCK OFF!
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Martyred wrote:Do you even know anything about Iran, besides what your boogey-man media tells you?
All smack and gunfagger aside, I'd honestly like mvscal's take on a potential invasion of Iran, specifically, and this pinky-waving teafest "decision" by the powers that be at the U.N., in general. I have a feeling his answer might surprise you.
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Martyred wrote:Do you even know anything about Iran, besides what your boogey-man media tells you?

They are a nation of laws. The understanding of law is paramount to the Persian ethos.
They think you're the "backwards" ones.
Christ Marty, what in hell are you talking about?

The president of fthe country stated that the holocaust never happened. He called for a ban on music. He said Israel shoudl be destroyed.

What part of all that is an advanced culture?
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Gunslinger wrote:
Bush: "Yeh, we got a problem in Iran, can we ask for more of your children?"

America: FUCK OFF!
I have no doubt that your country will get tricked into another war, and just like a stupid drunk girl at a bar with a fist full of roofies, you'll ending up regreting it the next morning as you gulp down the RU486 and ice down your vaginas.
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Gunslinger wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote: Iran has not violated a single law of the NPT. End of.
given their hardline stance on western cultures, thevery nature of extremists muslim attitudes and practices and the fact that they said israel should be destroyed, do you think giving them the opportunity to do so is a wise one?
It isn't, but who is going to stop them, us?

Iran is full of nutjobs to be killed, who is going to do it? Not us!

Bush: "Yeh, we got a problem in Iran, can we ask for more of your children?"

America: FUCK OFF!
If it was done correctly, if we had a president the world respected, we might be able to manage, but he shot his wad in iraq, even when iran and NK were more significant targets, WMD wise, and he comes across as a bumbling fool with a my way or highway attitude. no way we take point on this one, and the chinese and russians won't act until their asses are in the gunsights.
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mvscal wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote:No thanks. I was right the first time.
You don't enrich uranium to 70% to generate power, dumbfuck.
No, you don't. Not when the IAEA admitted the testing was flawed and what they did find, came from Pakistan. Iran is ten years away from that process.
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mvscal wrote: Any even remotely viable military option we have against Iran is because of our invasion of Iraq not despite it.
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mvscal wrote:
Gunslinger wrote:You know, I would like the potential of invading Iran on the US' table, but some dumbfuck got us to use our troops in some other war and we can't do shit right now.
Speaking of dumbfucks... Take a look at the map someday, you fucking moron.

How the fuck do you plan on invading a country like Iran, genius? You think Turkey is going to allow 300,000 US troops to transit their country and use their ports?

The only reliable way we can into Iran is through Iraq and that wasn't going to happen under the previous regime.

Any even remotely viable military option we have against Iran is because of our invasion of Iraq not despite it.
But there are barely enough troops to maintain what there is in Iraq, and you gotta know that other Mid east countries are coming in on irans side if we ever dared to attack a second country over there.
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mvscal wrote:
Gunslinger wrote:You know, I would like the potential of invading Iran on the US' table, but some dumbfuck got us to use our troops in some other war and we can't do shit right now.
Speaking of dumbfucks... Take a look at the map someday, you fucking moron.

How the fuck do you plan on invading a country like Iran, genius? You think Turkey is going to allow 300,000 US troops to transit their country and use their ports?

The only reliable way we can into Iran is through Iraq and that wasn't going to happen under the previous regime.

Any even remotely viable military option we have against Iran is because of our invasion of Iraq not despite it.
What part of invading Iraq involved Saudia Arabia, you dumbfuck!

If Iraq is a problem start with the only superpower in that region and get them to use their own troops and start WW4 before Iran and N. Korea get nukes.

OBL, wanted us out of Saudia Arabia and take a look at what happened.

Bush Jr. could have used the CIA instead of manipulated them to get the world to follow us on the invasion/ control of Saudia Arabia. The world would have dedicated troops to a war with Saudia Arabia, and guess WHAT? Saudia Arabia would have been so scared shitless, they would comply. You could have got a draft of US citizens to support this war. You could have moved mountains in the Middle East, instead you pussies took the easiest most fucking retarded approach.

You control Saudia Arabia, you would have controlled the Middle East, instead nice foresight and China will be your master in 20 years. I know you hope you are dead, I just wish we could have sent your offspring to the front lines of the Saudi/US vs. Iraq war.

To bad you get to sit on your fatass and continue to ignore veterans of this country who state Bush is a fuckup.
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mvscal wrote: Speaking of dumbfucks... Take a look at the map someday, you fucking moron.

How the fuck do you plan on invading a country like Iran, genius? You think Turkey is going to allow 300,000 US troops to transit their country and use their ports?

The only reliable way we can into Iran is through Iraq and that wasn't going to happen under the previous regime.

Any even remotely viable military option we have against Iran is because of our invasion of Iraq not despite it.
So where are you going to get these 300, 000 troops? What is your post-operational strategy? Whoops, you haven't fucking got one. Iraq x :lol:
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mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:But there are barely enough troops to maintain what there is in Iraq, and you gotta know that other Mid east countries are coming in on irans side if we ever dared to attack a second country over there.
Such as? The Saudis? The Jordanians? The Egyptians? They're our clients. They might try to fuck us behind our backs, but they wouldn't dream of making war on us.

Will the Syrians risk their army to defend Iranians while leaving Israel in its rear and/or potentially renewed Islamist and Kurdish agitation? They've had trouble with both groups in the past. No, I don't buy Syria offering anything other than moral support.
If it is proposed by Bush, Arab Nations will not stand by and watch another mid east country get taken over by the US. They might send troops to Iran in support, forcing us to NOT attack them.

Besides Phibes is correct. We dont' have the 300, 000 troops that would take.
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mvscal wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote: Iran is ten years away from that process.
What process is that again? Enriching uranium for nuclear weapons?

They aren't supposed to any number of years away from such a process, twit. What is plainly obvious to any rational human being is that they are in fact working on "that process".

That is "the wrong answer".
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mvscal wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote:So where are you going to get these 300, 000 troops?
We don't have them. We would need that many at the bare minimum if we invaded with the intent occupying the country. Fortunately, we don't need to do that.

We can certainly conduct operations inside Iran, though. We can destroy as much or as little of their industrial and economic infrastructure as we choose. We can use combined air and amphibous operations to secure the Straits of Hormuz.

What else do we really need to do to Iran?
Covert? because certainly you KNOW that russia and CHina would have a baby if we went in with air strikes.

But that would solve the problem.
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mvscal wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote:So where are you going to get these 300, 000 troops?
We don't have them. We would need that many at the bare minimum if we invaded with the intent occupying the country. Fortunately, we don't need to do that.

We can certainly conduct operations inside Iran, though. We can destroy as much or as little of their industrial and economic infrastructure as we choose. We can use combined air and amphibous operations to secure the Straits of Hormuz.

What else do we really need to do to Iran?
You have got to be fucking kidding me?

Go kill yourself. Or do the better and knock up a lot of chicks for draft numbers.

You fucking lost in Iran. You lost in North Korea, you will lose more seriously in Iran. See, because with N. Korea China says: My economy is growing, you act up N. Korea I taketh over.

What the Fuck with Iran? Fucking failure.
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mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:If it is proposed by Bush, Arab Nations will not stand by and watch another mid east country get taken over by the US. They might send troops to Iran in support, forcing us to NOT attack them.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Those pathetic bitches won't do shit. Their chins will quiver at Arab League meetings and that's it. We own their armies. We supply them. We train them. We maintain them.

How the fuck would they even get "these forces" to Iran? The standard practice is to bum a ride from the US. That would be kind of an awkward conversation.

There is no "Arab Nations".
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Alliances aren't needed if you have nukes, so says N. Korea. In N. Korea, we have China to protect us while they take over the world. mvscal doesn't understand logistics die with nukes. He wants to give excuses all day long to support his pussy ass position on Iran, while he dies.

This is why you inform mvscal his daughter sucks off Hurricane Katrina evacuees at a rate that we can all feel safe that the black male won't lash out. Thanks to him and his dick sucking we are all safer. Except in the Middle East.
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mvscal.

Well you're correct, we wouldn't need to invade. We could just take out the plant.

But all hell would break loose over there, and we'd be the target even more so than we are now.

That just might trigger a few sleeper cells to act over here.
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If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." —GWB Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Martyred wrote: Hang in there, Whitey. Smart people are on their way with dictionaries.
War Wagon wrote:being as how I've got "stupid" draped all over, I'm not really sure.
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