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OK State's Eddie Sutton Hurt In Car Crash
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:35 pm
by Funkywhiteboy
Oklahoma State coach Eddie Sutton injured in car accident
February 11, 2006
STILLWATER, Okla. (AP) -- Oklahoma State basketball coach Eddie Sutton was hospitalized Friday after being injured in a car accident.
Sutton sustained a head injury, according to police, and bruises to his face but was expected to be released from Stillwater Medical Center on Saturday.
"It's not life-threatening," said Gary Shutt, the school's director of communications.
Shutt said Sutton was traveling to the Stillwater airport to fly with his team to College Station, Texas, where the Cowboys (13-10, 3-6 Big 12 Conference) are scheduled to play Texas A&M on Saturday.
After the accident, the 69-year-old Sutton was listed in good condition, hospital spokeswoman Shyla Eggers said Friday night.
"He wanted to tell all of the fans and everyone across the state that he appreciates their thoughts and prayers," Shutt said. "He's a little banged up. He wishes he was with the rest of the team."
The Cowboys took off for Texas after learning that Sutton was OK, Shutt said. The coach expects to watch Saturday's game on television and looks forward to rejoining his team in the coming days, the school said in a statement late Friday.
According to a police report, Sutton was driving north on Washington street in a sport utility vehicle when he veered left of the centerline, corrected and then struck another SUV from behind as he was traveling about 60 mph.
Sutton's vehicle continued traveling north for a short distance, then left the roadway and struck a tree, police said.
The occupant of the other SUV sustained minor injuries and was released, officers said.
An investigation into the accident is ongoing and will be forwarded to the Payne County District Attorney's office, police said.
Sutton has a career record of 794-309 and ranks fifth on the NCAA Division I wins list behind Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Bob Knight and Jim Phelan.
Sutton was the first coach to take four schools to the NCAA tournament. His son, Sean, is Oklahoma State's head coach-designate and already filled in for his father once this season when the elder Sutton missed a Nov. 19 game against Texas-Arlington because of chronic back pain.
Updated on Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 12:40 am EST
The good news is that Sutton wasn't seriously hurt.
The bad news is that his face will stay like this:
:P
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:54 pm
by SunCoastSooner
The good news was they didn't find the fifth of Jack in the backseat.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:21 pm
by King Crimson
SunCoastSooner wrote:The good news was they didn't find the fifth of Jack in the backseat.
i'd like to think it's possible to be above the alchoholism smack.
that's just my opinion, SCS. and i think it's right.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:39 pm
by SunCoastSooner
King Crimson wrote:SunCoastSooner wrote:The good news was they didn't find the fifth of Jack in the backseat.
i'd like to think it's possible to be above the alchoholism smack.
that's just my opinion, SCS. and i think it's right.
You mean someone driving wrecklessly and endagering others is above smack? If that had been you or I, we would have been phoning people from the Payne County Jail to Bond us out on a number of charges.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:51 pm
by OUMO
Sutton was not hurt, the smack is cool, that is how we ended up here anyway.
It was a cheap shot though SCS.
I liked it, but I am becoming more of an asshole so maybe you should listen to KC. :twisted:
I would have rather okie st lost with old Sutton on the bench today anyway.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:14 am
by King Crimson
was Eddie driving drunk? i have no patience for that...from an adult.
either way, maybe i was being a self-righteous bastardo.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:16 am
by Ang
You all know I'm a bleeding Orange kind of gal...
I heard earlier today that Eddie was having some dizziness when leaving the arena for pre-game preps. I think he's just having some health issues about being 68 (my best guess) or however old he is and trying to keep up with having a really bad team this year.
There have been some comments about drinking, and I have to admit that if anything could make Eddie Sutton have a drinking problem...it would be the effort that this bunch of freshman has put out. But I don't think that is what happened.
I think he is probably having some health problems that he doesn't want to make public, with the dizziness at the arena and the obvious lapse while driving. Thing is, if that is what is happening, he needs to deal with it and not endanger himself and others. He can have the time to do it, because his team is probably not even going to qualify for the NIT this year.
It was an ugly loss at A&M today. That was not Cowboy basketball. Eddie needs to show up or hand it off to his kid because they are sucking really bad, even for an all freshman and newbie team.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:03 am
by OUMO
^^^^^^^^^^
Get's it.
My first time to RACK and aggie.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:44 pm
by the_ouskull
Yeah... Michigan had an all-freshman team a few years back and THEY did pretty well. F OSU. :D
the_ouskull
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:09 pm
by Cicero
Sutton cited w/ DUI
Will sit out rest of the season. Shocking development.
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:10 pm
by Bizzarofelice
local sports guy got his start in Kentucky and mentioned that Eddie Sutton would be seen at events so drunk he couldn't stand.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:48 pm
by SunCoastSooner
You remember who broke this story ;).
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:25 am
by Ang
Before you assume that it was alcohol (even though he has a history a few years back in the Kentucky days for alcohol abuse and then treatment at the Betty Ford Center), consider the fact that he has been on major pain meds due to the back problem for months. DUI includes prescription meds. The police are being tight lipped about it, so we may never know if it was meds or alcohol unless it all goes to court. But even if it was prescription meds, that doesn't excuse over-dosing them, which he would have to have done to be in that bad a shape, and then getting behind the wheel and endangering others.
Whatever it was, Eddie was under the influence of something and shouldn't have been driving. Or coaching, for that matter.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:01 am
by the_ouskull
'xplains his record this season.
Jus' sayin'.
the_ouskull
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:43 am
by Ang
skull,
I agree. I think Eddie has not been himself, and it hasn't done justice to this young team to have him at less than 100% coaching. If the major leader is struggling himself, how are the players supposed to respond at 110%? I've watched a lot of basketball teams, and the frustration on the faces of this team is not the face of a team that has had good leadership. They are at a loss as to what to do with themselves, and it adds up to much more than just the inexperience of a freshman team. They just simply have not been coached well this year.
And the one person that absolutely HAS to show up now is Sean Sutton. I heard an interview with Sean Sutton last week, where he was lambasting the players for "not putting out an effort worthy to wear the uniform" and the first thing I thought was that the responsibility with a young team is to provide some real strong leadership. Sutton Jr. needs to stop hiding behind the "uniform" and start providing some leadership.
I thought Kelvin Sampson made a really nice public statement today about Eddie Sutton. On ESPN it was noted, "I hope he's back next year. I mean this sincerely," Oklahoma coach Kelvin Sampson said. "I've never coached against a better coach than Eddie Sutton."
And I agree, Eddie Sutton at full strength wins, and gets the most out of any player on the court. But Eddie is not at full strength or even close and hasn't been all season, and the team has struggled because of it.
So it's time for Sean Sutton to stop dissing his players that have been struggling for lack of leadership, and figure out if HE is worthy to wear the uniform.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:58 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Is this the part where we all stand up an announce that we believe in fairies to bring Eddie back to life? Sorry I'm not going to get all gushy about this and personally I don't care how people perceive it. Oklahoma State gets a free pass everytime I turn around. An Oklahoma coach was once cited for public intoxication and wasn't even driving but being driven and it was worthy of front page space for almost a week in the daily O. Eddie is the one driving and the most the local press states for three days is that they have suspicion that he was under the influence. An Oklahoma player runs a stop sign and it is front page on the daily O the next morning for being cited for a traffic citation. Oklahoma State players are allowed to be in altercations with other local colleges at the YMCA and it is never mentioned in the press. It is newsworthy that an Oklahoma player be plastered all over the newspapaer for being cited with misdemeanor possession of Marijuana charges while convicted felons are A Okay as long as it isn't in Norman but under Eddie. I don't think I need to even get into "G-Unit".
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:11 pm
by the_ouskull
Exactly...
...but people care about winners, and that's why OU is all over the papers and OSU is a "in other news" story.
If Eddie is back on the wagon or not, he got hauled off in the wagon he deserved to get hauled off in. Driving while you're fucked up is driving while you're fucked up, no matter what you're fucked up on.
Now, as for the rest of it... I'm not gonna buy into the whole lovefest crap either... "I just hope he's okay, and I hope he gets treatment, and durka, durka, durka..." He had a responsibility to his team, his school, and, frankly, given his history, his family, and he wasn't taking care of what he NEEDED to take care of... he was, instead, coaching at half strength and NOT going to the doctor; at least not often enough if he was munching painkillers. So yeah, pardon me as well if I don't pity him for sleeping poorly in that bed.
the_ouskull
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:47 pm
by Rack Fu
Sutton, Huggins and Eustachy can enjoy relative unemployment. That drink (or 10) was really worth it, huh?
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:48 pm
by Left Seater
Sutton is a piece of shit. There is no reason that he should be driving under the influence of anything. A guy of his stature could certainly have someone give him a ride if he needed to take meds. And if he was driving after drinking then he deserves to wrap himself around a tree.
I will offer up thanks tonight. Not for Eddie nor for his recovery, but rather that the idiotic actions of this a-hole didn't take the life of an innocent person.
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:37 am
by SunCoastSooner
Vindication...
I guess the cops are going to find that fifth of Jack in his bloodstream when they get that bloodwork back in two months. Paraphrasing from the Sutton press conference.
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:37 am
by Cicero
Sutton is checking himself into rehab. On ESPN.
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:07 pm
by Left Seater
Why do I get the feeling he is doing this to save his job, etc, and not because he really wants to be sober?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:22 pm
by the_ouskull
Becasuse he's doing it to save his job... not because he wants to be sober.
People like him; people in his position... the hardest thing for them to do is to admit that something is better than them; something is "beating them," so to speak. He may SAY that he's got a problem... Hell, he may even realize that the's got the symptoms of a serious problem... but I'll lay money on, if you asked him to his face, "do you think you have a problem," he'd say no. Let's re-phrase that... He'd say "no" if there wasn't a camera around.
I hate to say it, but I hope that OSU can recover from this. This state isn't the same without them playing well too.
the_ouskull
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:32 pm
by Degenerate
At least Kentucky fan has something to laugh about this year.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:40 am
by Rack Fu
His only problem was wrecking his car and getting caught. Otherwise, he'd be through half a bottle of Jack by now.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:58 am
by War Wagon
Left Seater wrote:Sutton is a piece of shit. There is no reason that he should be driving under the influence of anything. A guy of his stature could certainly have someone give him a ride if he needed to take meds. And if he was driving after drinking then he deserves to wrap himself around a tree.
I will offer up thanks tonight. Not for Eddie nor for his recovery, but rather that the idiotic actions of this a-hole didn't take the life of an innocent person.
First he's a "piece of shit" and then he's a "guy of stature".
What a judgemental little piece of work you are.
Save me the tear filled MADD tirade that I know you'd love to go on.
Go fuck yourself.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:07 am
by SunCoastSooner
War Wagon wrote:Left Seater wrote:Sutton is a piece of shit. There is no reason that he should be driving under the influence of anything. A guy of his stature could certainly have someone give him a ride if he needed to take meds. And if he was driving after drinking then he deserves to wrap himself around a tree.
I will offer up thanks tonight. Not for Eddie nor for his recovery, but rather that the idiotic actions of this a-hole didn't take the life of an innocent person.
First he's a "piece of shit" and then he's a "guy of stature".
What a judgemental little piece of work you are.
Save me the tear filled MADD tirade that I know you'd love to go on.
Go fuck yourself.
Didn't graduate from Mizzou did ya war wagon? Maybe you should look up the definition of stature cause Eddie definatly fits it.
It's a damn shame that assholes and waistes of life such as yourself aren't the ones who normally have to cope with the loss of loved one instead of good peoples such as lefty.
Now you can go fuck yourself and take your useless drivel back to the NFL forum where your classless ass is on par with the rest of the posting.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:14 am
by War Wagon
Did I not say to save me the tear filled MADD tirade?
Dimwits who can't follow instructions are so tiresome.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:20 am
by SunCoastSooner
War Wagon wrote:Did I not say to save me the tear filled MADD tirade?
Dimwits who can't follow instructions are so tiresome.
You don't understand the 4th grade definition of stature and you have the nerve to refer to others as dimwits.
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:44 am
by War Wagon
SunCoastSooner wrote:War Wagon wrote:Did I not say to save me the tear filled MADD tirade?
Dimwits who can't follow instructions are so tiresome.
You don't understand the 4th grade definition of stature and you have the nerve to refer to others as dimwits.
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Stature?
That'd be ME towering over your smackless self, getting ready to pummel you into next week...if you even had something worth the effort, that is.
You don't, and never will. I don't pick on 'tards like you. I look for fair game.
For your edification though, this in particular is what set me off.
I will offer up thanks tonight. Not for Eddie nor for his recovery...
Again, fuck any judgemental simpleton who tries to color Eddie Sutton in this light. He doesn't
know Eddie Sutton, nor should he pass judgement on his recovery, or lack thereof.
I'm quickly running out of boxes of tissues here.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:03 am
by SunCoastSooner
Once again simpleton dimwits? Congrats you looked up the word stature. It has more than one meaning. Maybe next time you should use the word in the same context to try and prove a point.
Or maybe it is just that you are searching for another forum to be pelted around in. I don't think this is it your not on Babs level yet and me thinks that the NFL has aready laid claim to you tattered ass.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:58 am
by Ang
I think the term "stature" sorts itself out when you look at career wins.
People around Eddie Sutton love him because he loves the game and is a great teacher of the game. After he singlehandedly brought back the OSU basketball program from the ashes...he was an incredible comfort to all the people concerned when the program lost the players and staff in the air crash. That still means a lot to many people around here.
Coaches love to play against him. Players love to play for him.
But that is the Eddie Sutton before all the pain from the back and hip problems and the tailbone fractures from last fall.
He fucked up. He tried to coach while being less than what he expects from others and hasn't done a good job. He tried to medicate the pain and fucked up bad enough to kill someone or himself on the road and thankfully no one was hurt badly. He needed to hang it up when he couldn't work without bad pain...but he wasn't able to do it.
The best thing I read about the whole deal was a writer in the OKC paper that said that it wasn't an addiction to alcohol that did Eddie in...it was his addiction to basketball. He kept trying to coach when he wasn't physically able to do it...and his denial of being able has hurt him, hurt his young team, and has hurt his son's chances of taking this team forward.
I respect the man for a lot of things, but won't make any excuses for him for this. He knows as well as anyone that if you can't get it done, you need to let the next guy in line have a shot at it. It pisses me off that he couldn't see that about himself.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:49 am
by King Crimson
it makes for a nice poetic story that Eddie was addicted to basketball.
eddie was/is addicted to alchohol.
i watched two friends of mine DIE from heroin addiction. they are DEAD.
i read sooner boards and they run Eddie and make all the predictable jokes. i don't think addiction is funny.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:33 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Sorry Ang I think you are making excuses for a man that you respected for a long time. I have little to no respect for eddie, not because of coaching but because of his actions as a person. He chose alchohol over basketball so I think it is obvious what he was addicted more to in the long run. I don't need to get into my own life experiences with alchoholics to justify my feelings but to say the least I have no tolleration for them.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:26 pm
by Bizzarofelice
SunCoastSooner wrote:waistes of life
Most likely graduated from Oklahoma.
Sean is under contract. Job is his and was going to be his before this incident.
If Sutton is a drunk, it doesn't alter what he accomplished on the court. He is known for his basketball and not for his ability to avoid beer. In fact, the ability to avoid alcohol isn't really something that brings people fame. If this one thing taints his legacy in anyone's eyes, then they've got some issues to overcome.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:29 pm
by the_ouskull
I'm quickly running out of boxes of tissues here.
Then you should stop masturbating to your own takes. They're not as spank-worthy as you'd like to have all of us believe anyway.
As for Eddie's addictions, let's not act like this is the first time this has happened, one, and let's not even act like this is the first time recently for that matter. I decided to do a little bit of digging, and I've come up with some pretty interesting stuff... from a former player of his. ALL of this, is just the first time he's been caught with his hand in the cookie jar since he's been here.
the_ouskull
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:37 pm
by the_ouskull
Believe the Heupel wrote:I can't believe a doctor prescribed a highly addictive painkiller to someone with a history of substance abuse. Blows my mind.
The doctor likely practices in Payne county. The person filling the 'scrip' had the last name of Sutton.
Why are you confused again? :D
the_ouskull
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:09 pm
by Left Seater
War Wagon wrote:What a judgemental little piece of work you are...
Again, fuck any judgemental simpleton who tries to color Eddie Sutton in this light. He doesn't know Eddie Sutton, nor should he pass judgement on his recovery, or lack thereof.
I have no problem wearing your label of judgemental if you will accept your label of enabler.
No, I don't
know Eddie personally, but I do know him thru facts and his actions. I know that he was almost three the legal limit in OK. I know that he chose to drink and drive! I know that he chose toput his life in danger! I know that he chose to put other people's lives in danger! I know that he chose to put his repution on the line. I know that he chose to put his players in a horrible situation. I know that he chose to embarass his school and its alumni and fans. All of that makes him a piece of shit in my eyes. What do you call someone that selfish?
On the flip side, people like you War Wagon, who want to take the spotlight away from Eddie and point it somewhere else are no better, and likely worse than him. Eddie chose this himself, and you saying that we don't know him and shouldn't judge him allows him to continue without consequences. Step back, realize that Eddie chose this outcome, and then speak out against it.
At least Eddie is going to get the MADD tirade as you put it. It sure sounds like you
need to hear it.
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:34 am
by Rack Fu
Believe the Heupel wrote:Oh, and for the record, Sutton's BAC was .22-nearly three times the legal limit in OK.
So much for a "little bit of alcohol mixed with my prescription drugs" defense that he was mounting.
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:50 am
by War Wagon
Left Seater wrote: Eddie chose this himself...
He didn't
choose any more than a person with diabetes chooses to take insulin.
At least Eddie is going to get the MADD tirade as you put it. It sure sounds like you need to hear it.
Nyet.
Eddie Sutton and I don't
need to hear anything from weeping cunts like MADD or you. Take your saintly pontification and use it on yourself, if that's what makes you feel good.
Just spare me the outrage.
You "sound" like an ex-smoker railing against the evils of nicotine.