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Brees to become a Raider.......
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:24 pm
by Raydah James
????
Chargers prepared to blow Brees out of Town
Of course, the Raiders are one of the teams interested.
Beautiful. You know what you must do, Trev-
Join me on the Dark Side my dear.
Your Silver and Black Brees jersey will be on the way the second he signs, hun. :twisted:
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:03 pm
by Neely8
Miami would be a good fit.....
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:03 pm
by BSmack
Neely8 wrote:Miami would be a good fit.....
Only if they want to continue their tradition of mediocre QBs since Dan Marino.
Re: Brees to become a Raider.......
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:35 pm
by drummer
Raydah James wrote:????
Chargers prepared to blow Brees out of Town
Of course, the Raiders are one of the teams interested.
Beautiful. You know what you must do, Trev-
Join me on the Dark Side my dear.
Your Silver and Black Brees jersey will be on the way the second he signs, hun. :twisted:
Then , when you turn the ball over 4 times your first start , prepare for a short honeymoon .
Sincerely ,
Kerry Collins .
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:39 pm
by ChargerMike
This just in:
The Chargers will not designate quarterback Drew Brees as neither their franchise nor transition player, meaning that the team will either reach a long-term agreement with their 2005 starter or see him hit the free agent market.
“We were very concerned about the guaranteed numbers, which is pretty old news now,” Smith said. “It’s been out there. The franchise tag as we know is guaranteed. The transition tag would have been flexible. It’s no longer flexible from what I understand. If it’s the transition tag, it’s solid number. We didn’t want to invest that solid number at this point in time.”
However, Smith did reiterate that the Chargers and Brees hope to agree on a long-term contract.
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“We cannot get it done at this point in time, so right now we have two out of the three (quarterbacks from last year),” Smith said. “Where it goes from there, we shall see. We have a value on our players and contracts, and they have a value on it. We’re just not agreeing to terms.”
“We’ve had a proposal that has been rejected. We’ll continue to talk. How long that goes, to what point in time I just can’t tell you right now because I just know that we’re talking. But we’re pretty firm in what we believe and how we do things.”
This is NOT good news! I'll go the Bullsh!t route here and say Smith is bringing up the injury issue to keep the freekin wolves away. Anything else is unacceptable!
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:01 pm
by The Assassin
Brees will end up in Dallas. Hes a native Texan and I don't see Alice being interested in him. If Gruden was still coach,he'd be a great fit. but with Al's ERR Art's(

) offense he doesnt have that kind of big arm Davis desires.
I say give the kid Walter a chance. Enough retread QBs.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:39 pm
by BSmack
mvscal wrote:BSmack wrote:Only if they want to continue their tradition of mediocre QBs since Dan Marino.
Brees threw for 3,576 yards last season, the sixth-highest total in franchise history. He also tossed 24 touchdown passes (with 15 interceptions) while completing 64.6 percent of his passes
Nothing mediocre about those numbers at all.
Nothing spectacular about them either. And with one of the best ground games, best recieving RBs and best TE period, one would have thought that he would be a bit better than 7.2 yds per attempt.
But hey, we'll all get so see how Brees plays without LT behind him next year. I'm sure that will work out just fine for him.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:06 pm
by drummer
BSmack wrote:mvscal wrote:BSmack wrote:Only if they want to continue their tradition of mediocre QBs since Dan Marino.
Brees threw for 3,576 yards last season, the sixth-highest total in franchise history. He also tossed 24 touchdown passes (with 15 interceptions) while completing 64.6 percent of his passes
Nothing mediocre about those numbers at all.
Nothing spectacular about them either. And with one of the best ground games, best recieving RBs and best TE period, one would have thought that he would be a bit better than 7.2 yds per attempt.
But hey, we'll all get so see how Brees plays without LT behind him next year. I'm sure that will work out just fine for him.

Take away Harrison and Edge ...
Take away Smith and Irvin ...
Take away Rice and Craig ...
Take away Ward and the Bus ...
Re: Brees to become a Raider.......
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:11 pm
by trev
Raydah James wrote:????
Chargers prepared to blow Brees out of Town
Of course, the Raiders are one of the teams interested.
Beautiful. You know what you must do, Trev-
Join me on the Dark Side my dear.
Your Silver and Black Brees jersey will be on the way the second he signs, hun. :twisted:
A few months ago you had Brees in your bottom 10 QB's. WTF?????
You want him now, babe? Bwah!
Drew Brees
hates your team and so do I. :wink:
Re: Brees to become a Raider.......
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:28 pm
by Raydah James
trev wrote:Raydah James wrote:????
Chargers prepared to blow Brees out of Town
Of course, the Raiders are one of the teams interested.
Beautiful. You know what you must do, Trev-
Join me on the Dark Side my dear.
Your Silver and Black Brees jersey will be on the way the second he signs, hun. :twisted:
A few months ago you had Brees in your bottom 10 QB's. WTF?????
You want him now, babe? Bwah!
Drew Brees
hates your team and so do I. :wink:
The Chargers flat out fucked him over, and he's told the media exactly that as well-what do
you think the best revenge would be?
Signing with the Raiders. There isnt another team that is in San Diego's head
nearly as much as they are.
Bree's is cocky as all fuck too-I wouldnt put it past him to do such a thing....especially with our fucked up QB situation.
My opinion of him hasnt changed one bit-but it would be worth it just to see your reaction and for YOU to
come to the Dark Side because of your golden boy signing here, doll.
:twisted:
The Raidernation force is strong in this one........
:D
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:28 pm
by ChargerMike
BSmack wrote:mvscal wrote:BSmack wrote:Only if they want to continue their tradition of mediocre QBs since Dan Marino.
Brees threw for 3,576 yards last season, the sixth-highest total in franchise history. He also tossed 24 touchdown passes (with 15 interceptions) while completing 64.6 percent of his passes
Nothing mediocre about those numbers at all.
Nothing spectacular about them either. And with one of the best ground games, best recieving RBs and best TE period, one would have thought that he would be a bit better than 7.2 yds per attempt.
But hey, we'll all get so see how Brees plays without LT behind him next year. I'm sure that will work out just fine for him.

...very perceptive Bri....the fact that you couldn't mention even ONE wide receiver

perceptive, because you obviously saw the.... obvious...we don't have a top flight WR, yet Brees put up stellar numbers. Oh, and LT's 51 grabs didn't come remotely close to his 100 reception year.
Give Brees his due! He's a top 6 QB period.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:31 pm
by poptart
The very important question, of course, is how is Brees' wing doing...?
Or, how will it do...?
He ought to be coming into the prime of his career around the next few years.
He's sort of a poor man's Rich Gannon.
Mixes the ball around well, generally doesn't kill his own team with mistakes, and is tough, mentally and physically.
A nice, capable NFL QB.
A team can win a lot of games with him taking snaps.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:32 pm
by ChargerMike
...Brees would never sign with the Raiduh's
sin, John Parrella
Re: Brees to become a Raider.......
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:23 am
by Raydah James
mvscal wrote:Raydah James wrote:The Chargers flat out fucked him over,
Link?
You can pick any of the charger links on Sign on San Diego and you'll get many quotes and articles.......among them:
Drew Brees wrote:"By saying there's no way they're going to put a (franchise or transition player) tag on me, that's basically saying if we don't get this guy on our terms we can do without him."
“Unfortunately there's not much loyalty in this business. It's really about what have you done for me lately and how cheap can we get you.”
“I can start throwing the beginning of May,” he said. “That's three months until the beginning of training camp. You're telling me that with three months of throwing I'm not going to be back? That's eight months from the time I had surgery until the first game. I know I'll be ready.”
I want to win a championship here. But if the Chargers don't want to keep me, if they want to let me go, I'll go win a championship somewhere else.”
Base salary and incentive laden deal on the table for Brees currently with AJ repeatedly saying that he isnt budging......
Sounds like Bree's just wants a fair deal and LOYALTY from his team....hmmmmm, what franchise would he fit perfectly in again?
Shit, he'll NEVER know loyalty and family like the one he'll have in Oakland. EVER.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:25 am
by BSmack
ChargerMike wrote:...very perceptive Bri....the fact that you couldn't mention even ONE wide receiver

perceptive, because you obviously saw the.... obvious...we don't have a top flight WR, yet Brees put up stellar numbers. Oh, and LT's 51 grabs didn't come remotely close to his 100 reception year.
Give Brees his due! He's a top 6 QB period.
Know any other top 6 QBs who have been unrestricted free agents?
I didn't think so. The Chargers have spoken volumes about what they think of Brees.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:47 am
by The Assassin
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Keeping Collins makes no sense
LET ME GET this straight: Next month, the Raiders must decide whether to give Kerry Collins $2.5 million just for the privilege of renegotiating his contract?
Give me a minute ... OK, that's enough time.
No. Flat-out no chance.
Are you kidding me?
Art Shell claims: "Kerry Collins has been an outstanding quarterback."
That's hard to dispute, especially when you put "has-been" in the same sentence as "Kerry Collins." He did, after all, lead Penn State to an unbeaten season and Rose Bowl win over Oregon in 1995.
Clearly, Shell wasn't talking about 2005. And if he was, the Raiders can't hire an offensive coordinator soon enough.
Shell went on to say: "(Collins) is excited about moving forward next year."
OK, that proves it. Shell must have spent last year in a shell because that's the problem with Collins — he cannot move forward. Or sideways. He can only move backward — seven steps after each snap — to a spot at which every defender knows when and where he'll be.
Al Davis notes the Raiders' offensive line slipped last season. Ha. You try protecting a million-dollar statue.
And the Raiders had no running game? Well, duh. That's what happens when Collins is your quarterback. His presence doesn't exactly command "nickel" or "dime" coverage.
Speaking of nickels and dimes, I wouldn't give either to have Collins back in 2006. Pay him $2.5 million just for the right to pay him more? The Raiders should seriously consider showering another team with that kind of cash to entice it to take him off their hands.
I say point him toward someone on the Raiders' schedule. That'll assure at least one win.

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:49 am
by ChargerMike
BSmack wrote:ChargerMike wrote:...very perceptive Bri....the fact that you couldn't mention even ONE wide receiver

perceptive, because you obviously saw the.... obvious...we don't have a top flight WR, yet Brees put up stellar numbers. Oh, and LT's 51 grabs didn't come remotely close to his 100 reception year.
Give Brees his due! He's a top 6 QB period.
Know any other top 6 QBs who have been unrestricted free agents?
I didn't think so. The Chargers have spoken volumes about what they think of Brees injured shoulder.
FIXED
I'll get back to you on that :wink: ..or should I assume you've done your homework?
...at least he's at the top of the list.
http://football.about.com/od/nationalfo ... gentQB.htm
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:18 am
by BSmack
ChargerMike wrote:BSmack wrote:ChargerMike wrote:...very perceptive Bri....the fact that you couldn't mention even ONE wide receiver

perceptive, because you obviously saw the.... obvious...we don't have a top flight WR, yet Brees put up stellar numbers. Oh, and LT's 51 grabs didn't come remotely close to his 100 reception year.
Give Brees his due! He's a top 6 QB period.
Know any other top 6 QBs who have been unrestricted free agents?
I didn't think so. The Chargers have spoken volumes about what they think of Brees injured shoulder.
FIXED
I'll get back to you on that :wink: ..or should I assume you've done your homework?
...at least he's at the top of the list.
http://football.about.com/od/nationalfo ... gentQB.htm
All the more reason to avoiud Brees like the plague.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:43 am
by poptart
Fairly uninspiring list of QBs there.
~Marcus~
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:50 am
by drummer
I like Jon Kitna . I wouldn't mind him in a Niner uni . I doubt he would sign with SF because Smith is the de-facto starter , but he is more than just a capable QB .
The rest of the list , outside of Brees and the re-signed players to date ( fukkin' SF signed that faggot Jesse Palmer again ) , is mediocre at best .
Re: Brees to become a Raider.......
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:38 pm
by trev
Raydah James wrote:
Shit, he'll NEVER know loyalty and family like the one he'll have in Oakland. EVER.
Rack us owning your "loyal" team the last couple years.
This is all just business postering. This is the Chargers way of running Marty out of town. They want Brees to stay. Of course, nothing has happened
yet. We still have a decent team. Howz about you? :)
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:02 pm
by jiminphilly
BSmack wrote:The Chargers have spoken volumes about what they think of Brees.
You don't think the fact that they have a former #1 pick who happens to play the same position who is also making a shit load of guaranteed money over the next 2-3 years has anything to do with it?
The Chargers have said nothing about their feelings for Drew Brees as a qb. They just can't afford him considering they have more pressing needs and an untradeable QB who needs more playing time.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:04 pm
by BSmack
jiminphilly wrote:BSmack wrote:The Chargers have spoken volumes about what they think of Brees.
You don't think the fact that they have a former #1 pick who happens to play the same position who is also making a shit load of guaranteed money over the next 2-3 years has anything to do with it?
The Chargers have said nothing about their feelings for Drew Brees as a qb. They just can't afford him considering they have more pressing needs and an untradeable QB who needs more playing time.
If they had a top flight QB already under center, they would be shopping Rivers, not their current starter. They don't, and they are not.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:07 pm
by jiminphilly
BSmack wrote:jiminphilly wrote:BSmack wrote:The Chargers have spoken volumes about what they think of Brees.
You don't think the fact that they have a former #1 pick who happens to play the same position who is also making a shit load of guaranteed money over the next 2-3 years has anything to do with it?
The Chargers have said nothing about their feelings for Drew Brees as a qb. They just can't afford him considering they have more pressing needs and an untradeable QB who needs more playing time.
If they had a top flight QB already under center, they would be shopping Rivers, not their current starter. They don't, and they are not.
You assume there is a market for Rivers.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:12 pm
by BSmack
jiminphilly wrote:BSmack wrote:jiminphilly wrote:
You don't think the fact that they have a former #1 pick who happens to play the same position who is also making a shit load of guaranteed money over the next 2-3 years has anything to do with it?
The Chargers have said nothing about their feelings for Drew Brees as a qb. They just can't afford him considering they have more pressing needs and an untradeable QB who needs more playing time.
If they had a top flight QB already under center, they would be shopping Rivers, not their current starter. They don't, and they are not.
You assume there is a market for Rivers.
Wether or not there is a market for Rivers is not important. If Brees were in the category of an elite QB, the Chargers would not be letting him get away without putting at least a franchise tag on him and ensuring some return value. That they are not tells you going forward that they see him as a shorter Chad Pennington.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:40 pm
by drummer