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Carnival In Rio Well Underway! (Images Included)
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:07 am
by Dr_Phibes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4749594.stm
"Over 10 million Brazilians and up to a million foreign tourists, mainly Europeans, will be enjoying an entire week of dance, drink, samba, and sex, starting from today, all in the same city and all in the name of Carnaval."
This is a celebration of socialism, the collective nature of man, of racial mixing and cultural meshing. Very typical of the Latino - European and African cultural exchange.
Of course we all know what it looks like, but still - it's nice to show it. Enjoy!
meanwhile in New Orleans
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:30 pm
by Mister Bushice
explain to me why this thread belongs here, and not main street.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:32 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Phibes nailed it on the social commentary, and you didn't get it.
Eminent Domain + Forced Evacuation + Neo-Liberalism = New White Orleans.
No need to get mad and throw your toys across the room.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:44 pm
by PSUFAN
I sure hope I can make it to Carnival someday.
I sincerely doubt that they'll clean up the Bourbon Street stuff that much. That part of Mardi Gras is basically a result of gentrification anyway.
For allowing a little public lewdness, NOLA gets a vast throng on the street - resulting in a lot of money made by a few merchant folks, and plenty of citation $$ for the city. When I was there, they appeared to make sweeps and fill a couple of paddywagons every hour or so. The kids taken in, guilty of nebulous crimes, need only to swipe a credit card at the jail (fines usually 1500-2000) to be sent on their way.
I expect this racket to be preserved.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:10 pm
by Dr_Phibes
Mister Bushice wrote:explain to me why this thread belongs here, and not main street.
Maybe it should have been, it is social commentary. BBC radio was making some interesting points on it - that it was sad as New Orleans is the only city in US where Latin, African and European cultures meshed and took hold in the middle of a calvinist, cold and calculating Anglo Saxon culture and it's been destroyed - seemingly purposefully now.
Of course they missed the mark in not drawing up an analogy that Anglo Saxon culture is simply operating at a higher stage of capitalism, where artistic expression stagnates. NPR went on at length over the lack of atmosphere at the place.
Why do you hate the New Christy Minstrels?
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:24 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
^^^^^^^^
gets it
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:39 pm
by BSmack
Dr_Phibes wrote:Mister Bushice wrote:explain to me why this thread belongs here, and not main street.
Maybe it should have been, it is social commentary. BBC radio was making some interesting points on it - that it was sad as New Orleans is the only city in US where Latin, African and European cultures meshed and took hold in the middle of a calvinist, cold and calculating Anglo Saxon culture and it's been destroyed - seemingly purposefully now.
The only culture being destroyed in New Orleans is the crackhead culture.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:42 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Welcome to the new, sanitized America.
Why deal with a problem when you can just sweep it under Houston's rug?
'Cause Black Americans just ain't American enough for BSmackscal.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:48 pm
by Dr_Phibes
BSmack wrote:
The only culture being destroyed in New Orleans is the crackhead culture.
B, the left is strong in you - the only thing holding you back is your conditioning.
I will get through to you.
With my help, you will soon have a new username: B_Juche. No more hypocrisy or contradictions, your musical taste will become more focused and consistant, less eclectic. I look forward to working with you.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:52 pm
by Mister Bushice
Dr_Phibes wrote:Mister Bushice wrote:explain to me why this thread belongs here, and not main street.
Maybe it should have been, it is social commentary. BBC radio was making some interesting points on it - that it was sad as New Orleans is the only city in US where Latin, African and European cultures meshed and took hold in the middle of a calvinist, cold and calculating Anglo Saxon culture and it's been destroyed - seemingly purposefully now.
Of course they missed the mark in not drawing up an analogy that Anglo Saxon culture is simply operating at a higher stage of capitalism, where artistic expression stagnates. NPR went on at length over the lack of atmosphere at the place.
Why do you hate the New Christy Minstrels?
Can they still be called new?
Have you ever been to New Orleans? There are a very countable number of streets that were safe to be on at night, but the majority of NO was a poverty stricken, drug ridden shithole.
Most of those neighborhoods that haven't been rebuilt weren't worth the powder to blow them to hell before Katrina. The people who lived there / owned the property don't have the finances to rebuild, and serious investors are steering clear until there is some evidence that money invested won't be wasted.
Poor black neighborhoods do not have speculators flocking to pour money into them. Ask South Central LA after the Riots.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:57 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
The citizens of New Orleans need to stop soliciting aid from the US government and hand-out agencies, and start putting the power back in their own hands.
I suggest:
Some of these....
A little light reading from Mao's Quotations....
And a flag flying under the
newly liberated People's Republic Of Gumbo-stan...
![Image](http://www.ultimateflags.com/novelty/images/ussr.gif)
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:01 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Marty's vision of a "New" Orleans...
A Black man with a gun and a revolutionary spirit.
Be afraid oppressors. Be very afraid.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:12 pm
by Dr_Phibes
Mister Bushice wrote:
Can they still be called new?
Have you ever been to New Orleans? There are a very countable number of streets that were safe to be on at night, but the majority of NO was a poverty stricken, drug ridden shithole.
Most of those neighborhoods that haven't been rebuilt weren't worth the powder to blow them to hell before Katrina. The people who lived there / owned the property don't have the finances to rebuild, and serious investors are steering clear until there is some evidence that money invested won't be wasted.
Poor black neighborhoods do not have speculators flocking to pour money into them. Ask South Central LA after the Riots.
Yet in Cuba, the same force hurricanes strike regularly and at one time destroyed twenty thousand houses - without a single loss of life due to public planning. Then everything is rebuilt and manages to retain its cultural vibrancy, so don't give me this poverty, ethnic line nonsense. Resources in Cuba are scarce, but the state still functions as a body that services it's citizens, unlike the US. It's obvious that the problem lies within the larger structure of the system itself.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:22 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Quick question for you Phibes.
Can New Orleans be reconsituted on top of the existing State Apparatus, with a simple removal of the current Nomenklatura, or must the revolution come from below, a la the
Catalan Anarchist workers councils?
I need to know before I sign this cheque and tear it off the stubb.
TIA.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:35 pm
by PSUFAN
the single most vile, violent shithole in the United States without exception.
No fair bringing Houston into the discussion.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:44 pm
by Mister Bushice
Dr_Phibes wrote:Mister Bushice wrote:
Can they still be called new?
Have you ever been to New Orleans? There are a very countable number of streets that were safe to be on at night, but the majority of NO was a poverty stricken, drug ridden shithole.
Most of those neighborhoods that haven't been rebuilt weren't worth the powder to blow them to hell before Katrina. The people who lived there / owned the property don't have the finances to rebuild, and serious investors are steering clear until there is some evidence that money invested won't be wasted.
Poor black neighborhoods do not have speculators flocking to pour money into them. Ask South Central LA after the Riots.
Yet in Cuba, the same force hurricanes strike regularly and at one time destroyed twenty thousand houses - without a single loss of life due to public planning. Then everything is rebuilt and manages to retain its cultural vibrancy, so don't give me this poverty, ethnic line nonsense. Resources in Cuba are scarce, but the state still functions as a body that services it's citizens, unlike the US. It's obvious that the problem lies within the larger structure of the system itself.
Not the point I was making. You made a reference to NO being destroyed purposefully. I countered with the fact that much of it isn't being rebuilt because the people who owned / lived there did so somewhere either at or well below the poverty line, and no one wants to replace ramshackle houses with new homes so crackheads can move back in.
Cubas cultural vibrancy? You mean the country where political and religious rights are suppressed or non existent, foreign currency is frowned upon, th elocal currency has no international value, Freedom of speech, assembly, and the right to association is denied, no organizations or activities outside those controlled by the Cuban Government are allowed. Human rights monitoring groups are not welcomed, and due process is routinely denied to Cuban citizens, particularly in cases involving political offenses?
Oh yeah. GREAT place to live.
It's obvious that the problem lies within the larger structure of the system itself. :roll:
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:48 pm
by BSmack
mvscal wrote:Don't get me wrong, Houston does suck, but it's paradise on Earth compared to the Big Sleazy.
When you guys get done discussing the second teir shitholes, maybe you can all give Bridgeport its rightful props as the worst shithole around.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:07 pm
by Dr_Phibes
Mister Bushice wrote:....
Look, all I'm saying is that it sounds as though a gentrified New Orleans will promise a festival with all the charm of Twitty City. A lot of freshly scrubbed white folk getting down and dirty by putting black pepper on their chips and listening to Lawrence Welk cover bands. It's just a shame.
And no - I have never been, I'm exercising a travel boycott on imperialist states.
And as for Cuba - I you were allowed to go, you would see that everything you posted is untrue. If you like, I can link you to several 'underground railroad' travel companies which specialise in smuggling American citizens into the county via Canada. Don't worry, they won't stamp your passport and the Feds will never be the wiser.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:11 pm
by Dr_Phibes
Martyred wrote:
Can New Orleans be reconsituted on top of the existing State Apparatus, with a simple removal of the current Nomenklatura, or must the revolution come from below, a la the
Catalan Anarchist workers councils?
No. I'm sure the Anarchist workers councils have great ideas on how it should be, but no clues on how to actually go about doing it.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:21 pm
by Degenerate
Uh...hello?!?!
Love,
Gary, Indiana
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:22 pm
by Dr_Phibes
mvscal wrote:Dr_Phibes wrote:And no - I have never been
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I do likewise on your DPRK and Cuba analysis, so fair play.