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First FSU gets snubbed by the NCAA. Why we arent in it is beyond me?

But why the 2nd seed in the NIT? Cinn, Louisville, Maryland, and Michigan. God damn if FSU doesnt blow the doors off this mother fucking 2nd rate tournament I am going to be pissed.

Ps. I am glad a playoff solves everything. Cant wait to see the MVC teams flop.

If FSU would have beat Va Tech at the end of the year and would have beaten Wake, then they would have been in. I thought they were going to sneak in, but they certainly didnt help themselves. They blew leads agaisnt UF and UNC that would have also made them a lock for the Tourney. I think its bullshit that the ACC only got 4 teams and so did the MVC, when the ACC would murder them in a ACC/MVC Challenge. FSU is a snub, but so isnt Maryland and Cincinnati.

Cicero wrote:I think its bullshit that the ACC only got 4 teams and so did the MVC, when the ACC would murder them in a ACC/MVC Challenge.

I don't disagree about the results of an ACC/MVC challenge, but that's not the purpose of the Selection Committee. The Selection Committee is supposed to select the 34 best teams that don't earn automatic bids for the at-large bids without regard to conference affiliation.

Within the MVC, you could make the case that both Creighton and Missouri State got snubbed. Of course, one of the three at-large bids out of the MVC (Bradley) apparently was one of the last two teams in the field.

As for a challenge, the first round of the NCAA tourney is providing what's essentially a mini-Big East/MVC challenge: West Virginia vs. Southern Illinois; Georgetown vs. Northern Iowa and Wichita State vs. Seton Hall. Bradley is the only MVC team that didn't draw a Big East opponent in the first round.

FSU is a snub, but so isnt Maryland and Cincinnati.

Maryland and Cincinnati were snubbed, and Hofstra can also make a case that they were snubbed as well.

You could make a case for Creighton, not Missouri St. They didn't beat anyone outside the MVC.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:You could make a case for Creighton, not Missouri St. They didn't beat anyone outside the MVC.

Of course, you can only play who's in front of you. Others have mentioned elsewhere that some of the big boys duck the MVC.

That having been said, Missouri State did beat two OOC opponents in the dance (Oral Roberts and Wisconsin-Milwaukee), as well as a regular season conference champion (Georgia Southern) that didn't make the field. Not a world-beater schedule, to be sure. But that, coupled with the highest RPI, at least by Palm's calculations, of any team not in the tournament at least makes an arguable case.

Of course, 4 teams in the field is a record for the MVC. Neither Creighton nor Missouri State really helped themselves in the MVC tourney, although I believe the Selection Committee, as a general rule, attaches too much weight to the Conference tournaments.

Cicero wrote:FSU is a snub, but so isnt Maryland and Cincinnati.

Maryland got owned by the noles. In the standings and on the floor.

Cincy sucked this year and considering there recent fall outs at the dance, i am not suprised they didnt make it.

If Texas A&M, Air Force, Utah State, ect. get in....Why the fuck not FSU?

Like I said fuck it, all that is left for FSU to do is just win the 2nd rate bracket they are in. Cant wait to get robbed again next year by ACC officials all year long and then get snubbed. Should be good.

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Quotes from Coach Hamilton:
"I must say that to say that we were disappointed, I guess would probably be an understatement. We did realize that we basically controlled our destiny and we thought we did a good enough job to considered a top 64 team, but when you really don't have a total knowledge of what all the criteria is that the committee is using, I guess you are really somewhat in the dark. They use the word RPI, and when I look at the actual schedules of many of the teams that are participating it doesn't quite totally bear that out. Obviously, at this point we have to put our NCAA dreams behind us and wait to see what's on the horizon in the NIT and learn from this experience. Hopefully this will be a motivator to hopefully not be put in this position again, or allow ourselves to be in this position, where we leave our fate in the hands of a process that is executed without any of us having full knowledge of the points of interest that they are focusing on. I think that this one is confusing enough that we need to maybe look at finding a way that this process could be a little bit more out in the open where its there for everyone to see and there's a process that everyone can understand, and can be fully informed as to the thinking of the committee because I must say as disappointed as I was, I was just as confused by some of the other selections as well."

Warchant.com

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Of course, you can only play who's in front of you. Others have mentioned elsewhere that some of the big boys duck the MVC.

They had their chance against Arkansas. Couldn't get it done...give me a Michigan or a Cincinnati in that case.