It's true, Shaz.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:04 am
Tejas won the fucking championship.
I remember that, too. I was okay with TU winning it all because I figured it would end all the ESPN circle-jerking to all things Carroll and USC. Plus you have to root for your conference.Vito Corleone wrote:The real Shaz rant would have come if Texas didn't win the MNC with Vince Young as QB, I remember back in 02 he said as much when Vince signed with Texas.
One of the reasons I am glad ND is not in a conference, and hope they never join. I have never understood the mentality of rooting for a team based on conference affiliation, even if they are a bitter rival.Husker4ever wrote:Plus you have to root for your conference.
Nah, I've never rooted for Michigan.Husker4ever wrote:All bitter rivalries eventually evolve to include mutual respect. Okay OU and Texas might be an exception, but I root for OU every game they play besides vs. Nebraska. I cheered like hell for Texas vs. Ohio State. I even root for (puke) Colorado when they plat OOC.
Husker4ever wrote: Plus you have to root for your conference.
No wonder we won :DThe Seer wrote:Husker4ever wrote: Plus you have to root for your conference.
Territorial imperative.......
Yes, I rooted for SCum vs. Tex.
For the confrence, your program is still the undisputed Hester Pryn.WolverineSteve wrote:^^He says as his hoops program dons the scarlet letter.
I pull for Buckeye fan to act with class, so far I've been mostly dissappointed.
Believe it or not, I actually do it in basketball. And in part, that traces to my days at ND, believe it or not, even though ND was a basketball independent at the time.Killian wrote:One of the reasons I am glad ND is not in a conference, and hope they never join. I have never understood the mentality of rooting for a team based on conference affiliation, even if they are a bitter rival.Husker4ever wrote:Plus you have to root for your conference.
I think basketball is a completely different animal (as are most other college sports). There are teams that I've always half ass followed, with Syracuse being one of them. I loved their run in the '96 tourney, but rooted like hell against them when they play ND. And there will always be a team that I pick up in the tourney and root for. Last season it was WVU, even though I completely despise their football team and program.Terry in Crapchester wrote:Believe it or not, I actually do it in basketball. And in part, that traces to my days at ND, believe it or not, even though ND was a basketball independent at the time.Killian wrote:One of the reasons I am glad ND is not in a conference, and hope they never join. I have never understood the mentality of rooting for a team based on conference affiliation, even if they are a bitter rival.Husker4ever wrote:Plus you have to root for your conference.
Chalk it up to ND truly being a national university, its student body coming from all across the country, and also the importance of on-campus residence life to the ND experience. As a result, you were thrown in, literally, with people from all over the country. Most guys (there were, and still are, no co-ed dorms at ND) were sports junkies, and most (although sadly not all) were ND fans. That meant, of course, that we needed to have something to argue about, so basically, most people claimed some sort of "second team" in basketball. Mine was Syracuse, given that Syracuse was the closest DI school to where I lived, and so I got the entire Big East by extension (which meant I benefitted from the Georgetown national championship in '84, and Villanova in '85). So based on that, I became a sort of fan of the entire Big East, and of course, when ND later joined the Big East for basketball, that only solidified things.
I too hope ND never joins a football conference, but it's mainly due to the scheduling, moreso than anything else. If they ever do, I will probably get into the pulling for my conference mentality as well.
I hope ND never joins the Big Ten, and I might have trouble rooting for some of those teams if we ever do join. And I get your point about basketball being a different animal from football.Killian wrote:I think basketball is a completely different animal (as are most other college sports). There are teams that I've always half ass followed, with Syracuse being one of them. I loved their run in the '96 tourney, but rooted like hell against them when they play ND. And there will always be a team that I pick up in the tourney and root for. Last season it was WVU, even though I completely despise their football team and program.Terry in Crapchester wrote:Believe it or not, I actually do it in basketball. And in part, that traces to my days at ND, believe it or not, even though ND was a basketball independent at the time.Killian wrote: One of the reasons I am glad ND is not in a conference, and hope they never join. I have never understood the mentality of rooting for a team based on conference affiliation, even if they are a bitter rival.
Chalk it up to ND truly being a national university, its student body coming from all across the country, and also the importance of on-campus residence life to the ND experience. As a result, you were thrown in, literally, with people from all over the country. Most guys (there were, and still are, no co-ed dorms at ND) were sports junkies, and most (although sadly not all) were ND fans. That meant, of course, that we needed to have something to argue about, so basically, most people claimed some sort of "second team" in basketball. Mine was Syracuse, given that Syracuse was the closest DI school to where I lived, and so I got the entire Big East by extension (which meant I benefitted from the Georgetown national championship in '84, and Villanova in '85). So based on that, I became a sort of fan of the entire Big East, and of course, when ND later joined the Big East for basketball, that only solidified things.
I too hope ND never joins a football conference, but it's mainly due to the scheduling, moreso than anything else. If they ever do, I will probably get into the pulling for my conference mentality as well.
I see what you're saying, and I agree. But in football, if ND were in the Big 10, I wouldn't root for UofM or OSU to win simply because they were in the same confrence. Now USC on the other hand, I would root for.
OK people, this is where I draw the line.Husker4ever wrote: I even root for (puke) Colorado when they plat OOC.
I was basically shocked while watching that game. WVU looked like the much faster, crisper team. In recent years, everyone has been dying to sharpie Georgia in as a BCS contender...but they have yet to really warrant it, IMO. Nonetheless I was surprised, having watched WVU look like ass against Maryland and VT earlier in the season.West Virginia's win over Georgia in the Sugar Bowl went a long way toward solidifying the Big East.
Shaz wrote:OK people, this is where I draw the line.Husker4ever wrote: I even root for (puke) Colorado when they plat OOC.
I will NEVER root for freaking Col and there fans.
I hope they lose every game they play.
Not for me. Back in 2001, even if CU had beaten Oregon in the Fiesta, I still would've pulled for Miami in the Rose. I'd have rather finished as the consensus #2 than shared a title with Nebraska.Husker4ever wrote:Shaz wrote:OK people, this is where I draw the line.Husker4ever wrote: I even root for (puke) Colorado when they plat OOC.
I will NEVER root for freaking Col and there fans.
I hope they lose every game they play.
Not even if a CU victory helps Nebraska in the BCS? (tough question, I know...but you better give the right fuggin answer!)
Glad to see Mike and I agree.MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Not for me. Back in 2001, even if CU had beaten Oregon in the Fiesta, I still would've pulled for Miami in the Rose. I'd have rather finished as the consensus #2 than shared a title with Nebraska.Husker4ever wrote:Shaz wrote: OK people, this is where I draw the line.
I will NEVER root for freaking Col and there fans.
I hope they lose every game they play.
Not even if a CU victory helps Nebraska in the BCS? (tough question, I know...but you better give the right fuggin answer!)
I've cheered for Nebraska twice in my entire life and I still regret it. The first time was in the 93 MNC game when they got hosed against FSU. I don't know what came over me, but I guess I just felt kinda bad that, for as great as UNL had been for so many years, none of my Husker fan friends had ever experienced winning an MNC in their lifetime. I still felt the same way next year, so I cheered for them against Miami. Warren Sapp made it a little easier to justify. But after they won that game, I immediately realized how foolish I'd been. I'd just lost the one bragging right I had over Husker fans (actually seeing an MNC in my lifetime).
I'll also admit that it didn't break my heart to see them beat Michigan in the Alamo Bowl. I wasn't cheering for them by any means, and I would've loved to have seen Michigan pull off that final play, but I was kinda frustrated by how much shit the Big XII had been getting last year.
For the most part, I don't really buy into the conference loyalty thing either. I mean, if you're a Chiefs fan, are you going to pull for the Raiders or Broncos in the Super Bowl? Hell no. You want to see them get their hearts ripped out. This past bowl season was a little different, though, just because everyone was down on the Big XII. It just seemed a little hypocritical to me that, year in and year out, the Big 10 justifies having a bunch of 7-4 teams with "we're all so tough and we just beat up on each other." But the one year it happens in the Big XII, it's a "down year."