T1B

as said on yesterdays Sportcenter

1. Notre Dame
2. USC
3. Texas
4. Ohio State
5. Auburn

Wouldn't ND have to win a bowl game or something?

To be preseason top 5? Nope.

Gee, too bad we missed out on Urban. I'm sure a 6-5 record with that gimmicky shit and Quinn in a back brace would have resulted in a ranking around 35 or so.

Is Chris Leak going to dominate this year, or is the NCAA going to grant him a 5th year to do it? Because we all know he has to break out at some point.

I think Herbie forgot about ND defense, or lack of it when he penciled them #1............

My top 5

1. Ohio State
2. ND
3. Texas
4. USC
5. LSU

Snake wrote:I think Herbie forgot about ND defense, or lack of it when he penciled them #1............

Granted, that is obviously their biggest concern. But I wouldn't be surprised to see a big jump in defensive production, similar to the jump the offense made last year.

I don't know what's more shocking, that someone from ESPN had us in the Top Five, or that T REX posted a list which had ND at #1.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I don't know what's more shocking, that someone from ESPN had us in the Top Five, or that T REX posted a list which had ND at #1.

But he did throw the little dig in at ND, so typical T REX post.

Indy, I agree with OSU. I think I would put Texas ahead of ND, also. #1 is too high. If OSU and UT are ahead of ND, ND is realistically #2 because those two play each other so early, one is going to drop.

This is the first time in a long time where there hasn't been a clear cut #1 heading into the season.

Plain and simple, I think ND has a better team than Texas next year. That's the reason I have Texas at #3. I tend to base my preseason rankings on how I think things will end up, not on previous year's performance.

I like the way UT's schedule is set up. If they get past OSU, they have great spacing between their other tough games. Plus, beating OU last year got that monkey off their back. UT still has a ton of talent, but they need to replace FJ.

I have a good feeling about T+1 this year. No FJ. Fran on the hot seat. A&M's soft schedule will help us "practice" for t.u. McGee will be seasoned. Revamped defense (hopefully).

Basically, if it doesn't happen for us this year, it probably never will.

I agree with you can't always just use last year as a comparison...

I mean OSU returns a ton of offensive talent, but to lose all that sick defensive talent! WOW...i mean they should be able to replace some of that but tell me any team that has TWO AJ Hawks and TWO Bobby Carpenters (a senior and a underclassman to replace them)...

the osu offense will have to carry them and they should with all of the returning starters, etc...

I like LSU up there Texas defensively and at the RB and WR should be loaded as well as OL...a new QB..second game of the season against OSU could be an early season L, but that is why they play the games...

I can def. see ND or OSU as 1a and 1b. I disagree with USC at 2.

No disrespect at all, but they lost so much this year to the draft.

I think this is the first year in a long time that there hasnt been a certifiable pre-season #1 team on paper. I think this is as wide open a year, as any. That being the case, since they finished #1:

1 - Texas - (doubt they will be there, but until someone knocks them off....hell they did it for FSU, Miami, tOSU and USC)

2 - tOSU - (lose a ton on defense but I think their DeathStar fire power on offense can win some games until the Def gets up to snuff)

3 - West Va - (bring back a loaded offense w/ Pat White who lit up Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. Throw in a week conference to boot)

4 - Notre Dame - (The offense will be even better, if that is possible and I have to think that the Def will be improved)

5 - USC - (Too much talent and too many good coaches to let that program slip any further than #4-5)

Cicero wrote:3 - West Va - (bring back a loaded offense w/ Pat White who lit up Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. Throw in a week conference to boot)

Ugh. I agree with everything you say, and WVU will be a preseason top 5-10 pick, but I hate it. I can't stand teams that get rated highly out of the new Big East. For example, Lousiville last season.

WVU may be the best team in the land, but they won't get/have to prove it until the bowl game.

88 wrote:No way OSU should be in the top 5. Too much lost on defense. Defense wins championships. They will be better on offense, but probably not spectacular. I'm still not sold on Troy Smith running an offense. He still does his best orchestrating first downs out of chaos rather than in the flow of the offense. If Ohio State re-loads on the defensive side of the ball, they could be good. But filling 9 of 11 slots with newbies is usually a recipe for disaster.

I think OSU is Top 5 only because there are no other clear-cut contenders. Funny, but I'm still more worried about our offense next season than the defense. We have a habit of starting the season with very bland & conservative playcalling. We have to pick up right where we left off or that September trip to Austin won't be pretty. Yes, we lose some defensive studs to the NFL. But 7 guys returning on defense have started games for us.

IndyFrisco wrote:I have a good feeling about T+1 this year. No FJ. Fran on the hot seat. A&M's soft schedule will help us "practice" for t.u. McGee will be seasoned. Revamped defense (hopefully).

Basically, if it doesn't happen for us this year, it probably never will.

I think you have had these feelings for the last 6 years. :wink:

Here is the bad news. You have a Texas reject for your D Coordinator. He cannot coach. The worst defenses in the history of Texas football were under Gary Darnell.

I think Texas will be a Top 10 team. We have to break in our 2 Freshman QB's. If we beat OSU in September, our next tough game is October 7 against OU. If we beat them, our next toughie is at NU. I don't see us winning it all, but we should make the BCS.

Notre Dame was the 6/1 favorite to win BCS championship at IP.



i was shocked to see Georgia at 20/1

Texas is going to be sick on defense I wasn't 100% sure it would happen but I now am convinced they will be better than last year. The strength of the offense is going to again be the Oline according to reports they are again 8 deep on the oline. RB and WR are as deep as any Texas team since I have been watching.

The only real question is QB They both have performed very well in practice. Snead is going to be special. Many people say that McCoy reminds them of Major, he isn't going to overwhelm anyone with his physical talent but he sees everything on the field and makes a lot of plays with his head.

But they are still freshmen so anyone who thinks Texas should be top 10 is crazy. I'm getting a little more comfortable with the two QBs but not enough to put them in my top 5.

1. tOSU
2. LSU
3. USC
4. ND
5. FSU

^^^ I disagree, Vito. As far as I'm concerned, Texas has one question mark: Quarterback. Grant it, that's the toughest position to replace especially after watching #10 run all over the place last year. But every other position, you guys are fucking loaded. Most of the teams you mentioned above have a few more ?s than the Longhorns do.

Most Longhorn fans will agree with you, I won't til I see our QBs on the field.

BTW Sergio Kindle is the truth, he is still making mistakes but as one coach said: On one play he went the wrong direction took on the block with the wrong shoulder and still made the play in the backfield.

vittles: FSU but no UF? UF returns a ton from a team that wiped teh field with FSU in the last game of the year. Makes no sense dude.

UF has a ridiculous schedule but they'll beat the tar out of FSU next year. Leak will be a senior. I like our chances with a senior QB. Urban's offense tend to do very well in the second year. A huge leap.....we'll see.

Mine:

1. OSU
2. UF
3. LSU
4. OU - don't see a repeat of last year
5. Miami - NINE starters return on a stud defense

TRIX let me get some of that Kool-Aid dawg!!!

kool-aid? Did we or did we not kick the living shot out of you?

How about OBVIOUS-aid?

Killian wrote:Ugh. I agree with everything you say, and WVU will be a preseason top 5-10 pick, but I hate it. I can't stand teams that get rated highly out of the new Big East. For example, Lousiville last season.

Louisville's ranking at the beginning of last season was due to their strong 2004 in C-USA and the fact they brought a ton of guys back.

Keep knocking on the Big East all you want, but the conference will be fine and a bit sooner than everyone thinks. WVU deserves the high ranking. They beat the supposed best team from the best conference in that teams backyard, which is no easy task. Rich Rodriguez is one of the better young coaches in the country.

WVU is still a fairly young team, Louisville is loaded again and USF and Pitt are looking to have a strong year as well.

I was referring to the #2 ranking?? pretty lofty for a team that hasnt won its conference since 01. I have never said we didnt get beat bad. It happens once in a while. we'll run off another string of 5 out of 6.

I will not consider UF a contender til I see something more than a gimic offense. Unlike you I'm not sold on Urban Meyer as a quality coach.

I'll stick with FSU, but I could also put PSU, OU, or even Miami in before I consider UF. Hell at this point I have Michigan ahead of UF

I don't think there is a clear cut number 1, but i will say that i don't agree with Herbie about Notre Dame filling that spot. As we all seen at the Fiesta Bowl, there is too many questions about their defense yet. Texas is going to be very solid, but you can't rank a team #1 preseason who is going to be starting a quarterback with no experience. Ohio State could be deserving, but as mentioned, you can't replace guys like AJ Hawk, Bobby Carpenter, and folks. I really don't know how they're going to be better on offense, considering they've lost arguably the most sound reciever in the country last year. Teddy Ginn is an extremely dangerous weapon, but i don't know if he's ready to step up and be the #1 go to guy. I also wouldn't trust Tressel in using Ginn properly throughout the entire season. West Virginia should get some consideration, but i don't think a Big East team is worthy until they've proven more. Yes they are very talented and they did beat Georgia, but Georgia was no Texas or USC. WV should be able to run their schedule this season, being that playing Louisville at home is their toughest game. But i personally do not want to see them playing for the NC next season. LSU and Auburn are also worthy of Top 5 status. Oklahoma should have a very improved season, but their offensive line better get things together quickly or they can kiss any chances of beating Texas. Florida's an intriguing team, but their schedule is too difficult to conider them as serious contenders. Last but not least, Michigan. I have my high expectations like always, but unlike always the entire country doesn't. I think this suits us well, and if we can get by Notre Dame in week 3, it could be a tremendous season, coming down to the Ohio State game. I think alot of folks don't realize how much experience and depth we bring back. The coaching changes should be for the better, so watch out.

Preseason Top 5 (no particular order & no clear cut #1)
Texas
Ohio State
USC
LSU
West Virginia

5 teams that are very intriguing:
Michigan
Florida
Oklahoma
Auburn
Notre Dame

Believe the Heupel wrote:

I love the fact that Football Jesus is becoming accepted gloss.

I can't help but use the term. It makes too much since the way Vito is harping on and on about him.

T REX wrote:kool-aid? Did we or did we not kick the living shot out of you?

How about OBVIOUS-aid?

You want OBVIOUS-aid? What about getting butcher raped by a team that could hardly move the ball on offense 31-3? What about losing to LSU despite the fact LSU turned the ball over 5 times against UF? Or the fact SOS beat little orphan Urbie?

Yet they deserve to be #2? Shouldn't they not lose 3 games in their own confrence first?

Beep beep.

Believe the Heupel wrote:

I love the fact that Football Jesus is becoming accepted gloss.

Too bad he couldn't have played for Football God, Urban Meyer.

Guys, you can't have a top 5 without Nebraska.

Sincerly,
Living in the past!!!

Killian wrote:

T REX wrote:kool-aid? Did we or did we not kick the living shot out of you?

How about OBVIOUS-aid?

You want OBVIOUS-aid? What about getting butcher raped by a team that could hardly move the ball on offense 31-3? What about losing to LSU despite the fact LSU turned the ball over 5 times against UF? Or the fact SOS beat little orphan Urbie?

Yet they deserve to be #2? Shouldn't they not lose 3 games in their own confrence first?

Beep beep.

beep fuck you

How about actually playing more than 2/3 teams with winning records or not being .500 in the big 10?

How about NOT losing all your bowl games for a decade?

How about not being a complete asshole?

nevermind.

T REX wrote: beep fuck you

How about actually playing more than 2/3 teams with winning records or not being .500 in the big 10?

How about NOT losing all your bowl games for a decade?

How about not being a complete asshole?

nevermind.

Oh, did I hurt your feelings? Grow a fucking set of nuts.

I'll go ahead and play the Trix card that anything that happened under Davie and Willingham didn't count. So in reality, ND has lost 3 bowl games in the last decade.

And it's ND's fault that Tennessee, Purdue, Pittsburgh and MSU wen't in the shitter?

Tell you what. As soon as UF plays a non confrence game anywhere above the Mason-Dixon line, especially late in the year, you can shut your fucking mouth about anyone's schedule.

Beep beep.

WOW...Killian and Trix are in mid-season form...

I am going to pop some popcorn for this one...would this qualify as a T1B College Football Deathmatch?

Fuck you.

We play EIGHT bowl teamsyou stupid fuck. I will bet any amount of money RIGHT now that our schedule will be top five in the country. period.

I am sure that gives me the right to say whatever the fuck I please......

Now, the thing is you guys have to win a couple.

Not to mention how many teams did you play with winning records last year?

Two?

You want to call me a stupid fuck, yet you're the dumb ass who didn't know his own fucking teams schedule last year? Great call, idiot.

You play 8 bowl teams? Great. How many do you play out of your region? Zero. You're school is too pussy to venture anywhere near the north to play in October or November. Off the top of my head, the last time you played anyone from the North, in the North was fucking Rutgers in 1986.

You play exactly 3 regular season games outside the state of Florida. The furthest north you have to go is Nashville, TN.

As soon as you learn your own schedule, or your team has it's collective balls descend and they play in the North, you can still keep your fucking mouth shut.

I don't anticipate any happening very soon.

T REX wrote:Not to mention how many teams did you play with winning records last year?

Two?

Including bowl games, 4.

Shocked you didn't get that one right, either.

HUH?

Why do we NEED to leave our region when we play EIGHT teams from bowl games? We usually play 3-4 top ten teams a YEAR!!!!!!!!!!! Why the fuck do we need to go anywhere? We already play on e of the toughest schedules year in and year out. Who cares what some ND blowhard says?

So we don't leave our region and its still one of teh hardest. That's fucking funny you whiny little cunt.

Cry to your AD and tell him to schedule some teams that WIN games instead of the pussy schedule you guys have.

TWO teams with winnign records or is it three?

And you are saying soemthing about UF's schedule.

That's bode bitch I suggest you shut your your flaming piehole.

WAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!