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In the skit, Chase and Pryor face one another and trade off racial epithets during a segment of Weekend Update. Chase calls Pryor a “porch monkey.” Pryor responds with “honky.” Chase ups the ante with “jungle bunny.” Pryor, unable to counter with a more vicious slur against whites, responds with “honky, honky.” Chase then trumps all previous slurs with “mvscal,” to which Pryor responds: “dead honky.”

The line elicits laughs all around, but also makes clear, at least implicitly that when it comes to racial antilocution, people of color are limited in the repertoire of slurs they can use against whites, and even the ones of which they can avail themselves sound more comic than hateful. The impact of hearing the antiblack slurs in the skit was of a magnitude unparalleled by hearing Pryor say “honky” over and over again.

As a white person I always saw terms like honky or cracker as evidence of how much more potent white racism was than any variation on the theme practiced by the black or brown.

When a group of people has little or no power over you institutionally, they don’t get to define the terms of your existence, they can’t limit your opportunities, and you needn’t worry much about the use of a slur to describe you and yours, since, in all likelihood, the slur is as far as it’s going to go. What are they going to do next: deny you a bank loan? Yeah, right.

So whereas “mvscal” was and is a term used by whites to dehumanize blacks, to imply their inferiority, to “put them in their place” if you will, the same cannot be said of honky: after all, you can’t put white people in their place when they own the place to begin with.

Toddowen wrote:How very enlightening.

Golly gee, am I full of fuking glee and want to go out and hug the first niggy I see. I want to put them in a bear hug while someone ties a rope around his feet and we zoom around town with it dragging behind my truck.

I sense quite a summer coming on.....long and hot. I sense a lot of dark shit plopping about. And I also sense the blinding white razor sharp sword that slices through all the SHIT cutting these evil shitstains down to deathsize and silence.

Still your quivering slurp flaps, you nasty smelling motor mouthed nicker mother fucking no knowing fatherless fucks.

Cicatrix wrote:Please commit actual suicide for a change instead of these posts.

Thank you.

warren wrote:I find Toddowens chain dragging inference to be a master of trolling ineptitude. As well as a disgusting view into the face of a pussy that couldn't light a fire to keep warm at night, much less do a kill.

I don't care what the press says, race relations are improving, just take yourself a gander at any World History 1301 text and compare the time it took for different cultures to assimilate, and that means forced through slavery, bondage, or mandated religious conversion.

America's done a damn fine job of melting it's pot when you place it in the context of history.

warren wrote: However, the level of hypocrisy that this "educator" displayed by stating that a derogatory statement towards a caucasion is "humorous," and "harmless" while at the same time if I were to use the term mvscal in a crouded Afro-American bar, not only would I have my collective ass handed to me, but before I had the opportunity to collect my incisors off of the pavement I would be arrested for a "hate crime," inciting a riot, and be served with a civil suited document claiming that I had stole the dignity of every Afro-Am that was withing hearing distance of my "ethnic slur."

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/12/02/
how-not-to-be-insane-when-accused-of-racism/


How Not To Be Insane When Accused Of Racism (A Guide For White People)
Posted by Ampersand | December 2nd, 2005

Prometheus 6 wrote something that has stuck in my head ever since:

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"Not to put too fine a point on it, but "racist" is the only word that makes white people as crazy as "nig.ger" makes Black people."

It's true - a lot of white people, hell, most white people turn ten different colors of pissed off and shoot steam out their ears if someone suggests they've said something racist. And if you make a point of talking about race and racism, sooner or later someone will accuse you of being racist, fairly or unfairly.

Frankly, I think we whites - especially, we whites who think of ourselves as against racism - have to get over it. So here it is, in honor of "blog against racism day" (okay, it's now the morning after blog against racism day, so I'm slow):


Amp's Guide to Not Being an Insane-O White Person When Accused of Racism.

1) Breathe. Stay calm. Stay civil. Don't burn bridges. If someone has just said "I think that sounds a bit racist," don't mistake it for them saying "you're Klu Klux Klan racist scum" (which is a mistake an amazing number of white people make). For the first ten or twenty seconds any response you make will probably come from your defensiveness, not from your brain, so probably you shouldn't say whatever first comes to your mind.

2) Take the criticism seriously - do not dismiss it without thinking about it. Especially if the criticism comes from a person of color - people of color in our society tend by necessity to be more aware of racism than most Whites are, and pick up on things most Whites overlook. (On the other hand, don't put the people of color in the room in the position of being your advocate or judge.)

3) Don't make it about you. Usually the thing to do is apologize for what you said and move on. Especially if you're in a meeting or something, resist your desire to turn the meeting into a seminar on How Against Racism You Are. The subject of the conversation is probably not "your many close Black friends, and your sincere longstanding and deep abhorrence of racism."

Think of it as if someone points out that you need to wipe your nose because you've got a big glob of snot hanging out. The thing to do is say "oh, excuse me," wipe your nose, and move on. Insisting that everyone pat you on the back and reassure you that they realize you don't always have snot hanging from your nose, before the conversation can be allowed to move forward, is not productive.

4) Let Occasional Unfair Accusations Roll Off Your Back. Sometimes, even after you've given it serious thought, you'll come to the conclusion that a criticism was unfair. Great! Now please let it go. Don't insist that everyone agree with you. Don't enlist the people of color in the room to certify you as Officially Non-Racist. Don't bring it up again and again, weeks or months after everyone else has forgotten about the original discussion. In other words, see point #3.

Shorter Ampersand: Don't make it a whacking huge deal if you say something racist, or something others perceive as racist. Apologize, move on, and consider the criticism seriously so that you can improve your thinking, if need be.

Screw_Michigan wrote:black culture is a joke. BTW. they can have it.

Screw_Michigan wrote:black culture is a joke. BTW. they can have it.

Van wrote:You might as well've titled this thread: "Annie! I got some hot interracial lesbian porn for you, and JUST you! Curious?"

Risa wrote:So who are you, what is your gender, and what does your handle and avatar mean?

Cicatrix wrote:

Risa wrote:So who are you, what is your gender, and what does your handle and avatar mean?

Take the pic of that future ghetto boy/drug dealer off your sig and I'll tell you anything you wanna know. Tired of seeing that kids grill as I scroll down a page.

Cicatrix wrote:

Risa wrote:So who are you, what is your gender, and what does your handle and avatar mean?

Take the pic of that future ghetto boy/drug dealer off your sig and I'll tell you anything you wanna know. Tired of seeing that kids grill as I scroll down a page.

it's not like he got falling down drunk and went off with 3 dudes for a gangbang on the beach...

Diogenes wrote: Anyone who would saddle a kid with a name like Quadrevion deserves to be hit by a falling satelite.

Risa wrote:

Screw_Michigan wrote:black culture is a joke. BTW. they can have it.

Someone dance with your date and you were too chickenshit to say 'no'... or be courteous dance with their own?

If you don't have the balls to stand up for yourself in a computer lab versus the public concourse outside... you have no room to speak about 'jokes'. you are one.