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We don't want people sneaking into our country that are going to do jobs that Americans won't do

NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 50 minutes ago

CANCUN, Mexico - With Mexican President
Vicente Fox at his side,
President Bush gave Congress a long-distance push Thursday to open the United States to immigrant workers who have been sneaking across the borders to fill low-paying jobs.

"We don't want people sneaking into our country that are going to do jobs that Americans won't do," Bush said at the end of a private meeting with Fox, where the issue was on top of the agenda. "We want them coming in in an orderly way, which will take pressure off both our borders."

The meeting between the Mexican and U.S. leaders came on the first day of a two-day North American summit that also includes Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Harper, meeting with Bush for the first time since taking office two months ago with the promise of building stronger ties with Washington, said the two countries are moving past their "tension" over
Iraq.

Still, he took a combative stance on their long-standing dispute over U.S. tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber, saying Canada would "pursue all its legal options" if he and Bush can't work out an agreement.

But it was the immigration debate, which has dominated the U.S. Senate this week, that took center stage in talks conducted in a beachfront resort surrounded by bikini-clad spring breakers. A new immigration law could affect as many as 6 million Mexicans living illegally in the United States — about half of all those who are estimated to have sneaked in from other countries seeking new opportunities they can't find at home.

Bush is pushing for a guest worker program that would let foreigners in low-paying jobs stay temporarily, which Fox says is a good first step toward some form of legal status for all Mexican illegal immigrants.

The issue has united the two leaders, whose friendship dates back to Bush's time as Texas governor but was strained over Fox's objections to the war in Iraq. But immigration has divided Bush's Republican party, with business interests who want cheap labor battling conservatives who want a get-tough policy against illegal immigrants.

Fox suggested the issue is largely out of their hands now.

"The matter is in the Congress of the United States and that is where the decision will be made," Fox said. "It is no longer between President Bush and President Fox."

But both leaders were clearly trying to sway the debate.

"I told the president there is a legislative process that's going forward," Bush said. "And that it may look cumbersome to some, but that's how our democracy works."

Bush added, "I'm optimistic that we can get a bill done."

The summit included plenty of time to be neighborly. The three leaders dressed casually in open-collared shirts and strolled together among the ancient Mayan ruins at Chichen Itza before sitting down for more intense one-on-one meetings. Fox laid on a lavish dinner for his guests.

After spending the morning sightseeing, Bush had a few hours off before the formal meetings began. He used part of the time to work up a sweat in his hotel's gym.

There was tight security despite the fun-loving atmosphere generated by college students who have flocked to Cancun for spring break. Gunboats patrolled the turquoise waters off Bush's spa resort, and fencing kept out all but hotel guests. "I'd like to make sure you work more than you play," Bush joked to reporters.

The trilateral meeting was expected to be Fox's last, since he is set to leave office this year because of term limits. Bush lauded Fox for stabilizing the Mexican economy and improving the net worth of his people.

"That's important for the American economy as well," Bush said. "The more net worth there is in Mexico, the more likely it is the Mexican may be wanting to buy a U.S. product. And vice versa, by the way."

In his meeting with Harper, Bush sought to make the newly elected leader look good at home, making it a point to stress how hard the Canadian leader had pressed him on the softwood lumber issue. Harper "made an emphatic case," Bush said.

"I appreciate his steely resolve to get something done," the president said. "I appreciate your pushing."

But Bush didn't give Harper much of substance, saying only that "my intent is to negotiate in good faith and a timely fashion to resolve this issue."

We don't want people sneaking into our country that are going to do jobs that Americans won't do

tough love wrote:

We don't want people sneaking into our country that are going to do jobs that Americans won't do

It pains me to agree with anything Bu$h, but what's wrong with that reasoning.
If your folks prefer welfare and crime over demeaning honest work, what's wrong with legitimizing those who will do the work which needs doing?

Sounds to me like somebodies done got da Anti-Globalism Blues.

What Americans are loathe to do is to work for less than minimum wage. Why should Americans have to compete at sub minimum wage in the job market?

They are LEGAL resident aliens, have families here, and work their fucking asses off.

Derron wrote:I pay my workers $ 12.00 to $ 16.00 per hour. Guess what ... the fucking white boys won't even consider working for $ 12.00 an hour, and if they do, they fucking talk on their goddamn cell phones all day, roll in 5 mintues late every day, and want to work 30 and get paid for 40, hung over 3 days out of 5, get aqbout 1/2 production on Mondays and Friday afternoons and generally bitch and moan about everything.

Now the Hispanics that work for me, Guatamalan guys, love the $ 12.00 per hour, are here every fucking day 10 minutes early. They are LEGAL resident aliens, have families here, and work their fucking asses off.

I could not keep the busines going if I tried to pay sub mininmum or even minimum wage. You would get a bunch of fuck off idiots, white and brown.

It is a fallacy to say that only Mexicans will do shit work. What Americans are loathe to do is to work for less than minimum wage. Why should Americans have to compete at sub minimum wage in the job market?

Nobody's talking about LEGAL immigrants. We're talking about ILLEGAL immigrants.

Feel free to let us know when you can tell the difference.

Derron wrote:Oh... excuse the fuck out of me... when I read your post there I saw the word " Mexicans".

Derron wrote: I pay my workers $ 12.00 to $ 16.00 per hour. Guess what ... the fucking white boys won't even consider working for $ 12.00 an hour, and if they do, they fucking talk on their goddamn cell phones all day, roll in 5 mintues late every day, and want to work 30 and get paid for 40, hung over 3 days out of 5, get aqbout 1/2 production on Mondays and Friday afternoons and generally bitch and moan about everything.

Mister Bushice wrote:Increased wages paid for picking crops will result in lower taxes in the long term and more for the bureaucrat's to pull from for their pork laden legislation. Because if we have 11 million LEGAL Workers in the field paying taxes on the money they earned it will be at least 10 million more than we have right now.