Mister Bushice wrote:Dins,
Perhaps you need to drink more. The U & L aren't more highly rated than other parts of the US.
Really?
Wikipedia.com wrote:Beer
Portland and certain other Oregon cities (such as Hood River and Bend) are well-known for their beer. It is often said that Portland is the home of the microbrew revolution. Some illustrate Portlanders' interest in the beverage by an offer made in 1888, when local brewer Henry Weinhard volunteered to pump beer from his brewery into the newly dedicated Skidmore Fountain. However, the renown for quality beer dates to the 1980s, when state law was changed to allow consumption of beer on brewery premises. In short order, microbreweries and brewpubs began to pop up all over the city. Their growth was supported by the abundance of local ingredients, including two-row barley, over a dozen varieties of hops, and the pure water from Bull Run and other drainage basins of nearby Mount Hood.
Today, with 33 breweries within the city limits, Portland is home to more breweries than any other city in the world. The McMenamin brothers alone have over thirty brewpubs, distilleries and wineries scattered throughout the metropolitan area, many in renovated theaters and other old buildings otherwise destined for demolition. Other notable Portland brewers include Widmer Brothers, Bridgeport Brewing Company and the MacTarnahan's Brewing Company. In 1999, author Michael "Beerhunter" Jackson called Portland a candidate for the beer capital of the world because the city boasted more breweries than Cologne, Germany. A popular nickname for the city in beer appreciation circles is "Beervana."
Portland hosts a number of festivals throughout the year in celebration of beer, including the Oregon Brewers Festival. Held each July, it is the largest gathering of independent craft brewers in North America.
What were you saying again?
Saying it silently might be a good idea.
Btw-some of their figures are wrong. There's over 70 breweries in the city, dozens more in the surronding burbs.
the beer is good, mostly 'cause the water is good
Water, eh?
Whatever you say there, brewmeister.
While Portland and its Bull Run system do indeed offer the best quality water in the country (do they still sell it in bottles, straight out of our taps, plus fancy labels, in New York City? That was funny stuff), do you think it has anything to do with the superior infrastructure and brweing knowledge, and the ability for brewers to pick and choose individual strains of hops, since the Willamette Valley is also the Hops Capital of America (tell me you knew that just about all American hops...like the kinds they put in Bud as well, along with Bavarian hops)?
Let's face it -- the U&L invented what could be referred to as "modern American craft brewing." We invented modern indoor marijuana farming. We boast the highest concentration of psilocybin mushrooms on the planet...seeing a trend here? All the various regions of this Great Nation of ours are good at something(thanks for the wheat, Midwest. It's not like it's a weed everywhere else...
but it looks good on you). When you wanna clip a buzz -- look Up and Left. To dispute this would be folly.
mvscal wrote:
Far too many barleywines on those lists. That shit just isn't that good.
Mindless trend followers.
"Ooooo. This is really strong. That means it must be good"
The Apocslypse is upon us. Me and mvscal agree on something regarding beer.
Although the Hair Of Dog entries listed are bith very strong, and pretty tasty. Pretty expensive, as far as beer goes, too. Bottle conditioned, and had that fine sludge layer on the bottom of the bottle that you expect from a fine bottle-aged brew. I think the lowest ABV of any of their products is about 10%. But through good brewing, they manage to mostly avoid that barlywine nasty. Funny thing about Hair Of Dog, is that(up until r4ecently) all of their brews are given proper names, like Fred, Dave, and Adam. To read that list, you'd think that either Hair Of Dog was a mojor player in the U&L market (it's not), or whoever made that list works for HOD.
Interesting list (which I don't feel is terribly accurate to begin with), in that even in Portland, I need to go to a specialty store (sup, the best one around being close by, and another right up the street) to get many, if not most of those.
The demise of Deschutes(not Portland, but Bend) has been a serious bummer. They spent probably ten years as THE best brewery in the country, but alas...the lust for dollars was toom strong, and they better-than-doubled production, and took the subsequent hit in quality...but don't tell them that on beeradvocate....or do tell them that. They're resonse will probably be "you must know that Dinsdale guy," and then your SN and IP will never work there agin. What a joke that site is.
But I see on that list that they rated JubelAle higher than the Desvhutes Cinder Cone Red....WROOOOOONG! But seeing how the criteria works there, I guess Jubel, with the higher ABV associated with a winter seasonal, gets the nod. As mvscal pointed out, that list appears to be more based on ABV rather than...I dunno....taste? Although Hair Of Dog offers both.
And thinking about it...I can't think of a
worse "hair of dog" morning brew to take the edge off the hangover. Screwdriver, coffee and Bailey's/Kahlua, piss beer....but the Kings Of Sludge? If I'm drinking my breakfast, I want it to be 100% liquid, and if I want cereal, I'll pour a bowl from the box, not from a bottle.
^^^Knowing the best forms of alcohol to drink in the morning makes me a bad person...right?
And pretty much when I saw a "best beers" list that included
anything from Widmer(sup Anheiser Busch trying to crush the competition, and doing their best to reduce the quality of craft beers across the board...sellout pieces of faggot shit...and I do mean "faggot"), and Rogue (sup, "we're capable of making a couple of good brews, but instead we choose to make 50 shitty ones instead) gets my scroll wheel spinning as if Diogenes had posted the list.
