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100 years ago today...

The worst natural disaster in U.S. History.

3,400 people dead... and the city burned for 3 days.










The Riff moved at over 6,000 mph and was the equivalent of 1,000 atomic bombs, with waves of earth 2 feet high.





It was a 7.9.


Then and now...









I was here for this one... the day I thought I would die.










100 years ago today.






m2

m2 wrote:100 years ago today...

The worst natural disaster in U.S. History.

Katrina Rita is the worst natural disaster in US History.

I don't care how it's broken up which groups died.
People died, all along the Gulf Coast.

They are still finding remains of bodies... and now,
such things are being allowed to be printed, here
and there, instead of the fiction that everyone is
accounted for.

There is no telling how many people are casualties
due to Katrina/Rita related illnesses.

The amount of property damage dwarfs San Francisco.

Katrina/Rita is a worse tragedy, the worst natural disaster
in US History.

San Francisco did not have the disadvantage of having
an administration attempting (and succeeding in) downplaying
just how bad things got, and continue to be.

Goob's funny.


Nice before/after shots m2. I wouldnt argue that, that is the worst natural disaster in our nation's short history.

Risa wrote:I don't care how it's broken up which groups died.
People died, all along the Gulf Coast.

They are still finding remains of bodies... and now,
such things are being allowed to be printed, here
and there, instead of the fiction that everyone is
accounted for.

There is no telling how many people are casualties
due to Katrina/Rita related illnesses.

The amount of property damage dwarfs San Francisco.

Katrina/Rita is a worse tragedy, the worst natural disaster
in US History.

San Francisco did not have the disadvantage of having
an administration attempting (and succeeding in) downplaying
just how bad things got, and continue to be.

Did your mom have an STD when you were born?

The Seer wrote:

Risa wrote:I don't care how it's broken up which groups died.
People died, all along the Gulf Coast.

They are still finding remains of bodies... and now,
such things are being allowed to be printed, here
and there, instead of the fiction that everyone is
accounted for.

There is no telling how many people are casualties
due to Katrina/Rita related illnesses.

The amount of property damage dwarfs San Francisco.

Katrina/Rita is a worse tragedy, the worst natural disaster
in US History.

San Francisco did not have the disadvantage of having
an administration attempting (and succeeding in) downplaying
just how bad things got, and continue to be.

Did your mom have an STD when you were born?

more like a healthy nine month diet of crack and md 20/20's.

the '68 meltdown by the Phillies.

I was here for this one... the day I thought I would die.

Yeah...doesn't make the midwest seem so bad now, does it?

Up here in Meechigan, our version of a "natural disaster" is the occasional snow storm, and that doesn't do hardly any damage, only haults transportation and slows things down a bit. Hurricanes and earthquakes? No thanks. I think I'll stay here for awhile.

We can only hope it happens again, only this time the whole city slides into the bay.

I was here for this one... the day I thought I would die.

I bet those windchimes were clanging like crazy during the earthquake. Seems to me like free advertising.

Well, what's the definition of "worst natural disaster"? Number of deaths? Cost of recovery? Both?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Well, what's the definition of "worst natural disaster"? Number of deaths? Cost of recovery? Both?

None of the above.

The correct answer is:

D. # of black people stuck at the Superdome

I kinda like the city better when its all
flattened and burned and stuff.

Sorry.

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I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere
than in any city on earth. --Steve McQueen

mvscal wrote:

Risa wrote:

m2 wrote:100 years ago today...

The worst natural disaster in U.S. History.

Katrina Rita is the worst natural disaster in US History.

Not even close, you stupid cunt.

you're so dopey, Red
i know exactly how you'd be
at a party.

you should come to albuquerque
so you can take me to see Silent Hill
when it opens.

it'll be really, really fun =)


And in terms of deaths, property damage
and political ramifications, Katrina/Rita
is the worst US natural disaster. Period.

No other US natural disaster comes close.

e wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote:the '68 meltdown by the Phillies.

the 2006 kansas city royals are a total disaster. the only upside is that it effects very few people since nobody's going to the games.

Not true. I went to the Royals/Devil Rays game on Saturday night. There were a little over 20,000 people. Thats a big crowd by Devil Rays standards.

Cicero wrote:

e wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote:the '68 meltdown by the Phillies.

the 2006 kansas city royals are a total disaster. the only upside is that it effects very few people since nobody's going to the games.

Not true. I went to the Royals/Devil Rays game on Saturday night. There were a little over 20,000 people. Thats a big crowd by Devil Rays standards.

You didn't do very well on the Reading Comprehension portion of the ACT, did you?

m2 wrote:... and the city burned for 3 days.

So?

Sincerely,
Detroit

88 wrote:The Gavelston storm of 1900 gets my vote

Hey! Somebody who doesn't have their head buried deep, deep in their ass?

That's kind of refreshing in this thread.

Morons -- just because it happened in the last year, it doesn't make it the superlative anything.


"KATRINA WAS THE WORST DISASTER IN US HISTORY!!!!!"

Well, no...it was the worst one ever broadcast live on television. Just because YOU watched it, doesn't wipe out 200 years of history...idiots.

Dinsdale wrote:

88 wrote:The Gavelston storm of 1900 gets my vote

Hey! Somebody who doesn't have their head buried deep, deep in their ass?

That's kind of refreshing in this thread.

How is 6,000 Texans dying a tragedy? Maybe someone can help me out here?

I've been to Galvaston... and the hurricane was the best thing to ever happen to that place.


m2

mvscal wrote:The Galveston hurricane killed over six thousand people and as many as 12,000 in the entire region.

The Okeechobee hurricane of 1928 was the second deadliest weighing in at around 2,500 killed.

And in terms of deaths, property damage
and political ramifications, Katrina/Rita
is the worst US natural disaster. Period.

No other US natural disaster comes close.

Not that I'd ever stick up for this wench, but, if you're going to debate the point... debate the whole point. See bolded text.

mvscal wrote:
Katrina isn't even the second most deadly natural disaster in US history.

The Galveston hurricane killed over six thousand people and as many as 12,000 in the entire region.

The Okeechobee hurricane of 1928 was the second deadliest weighing in at around 2,500 killed.

You truly are an idiot!



the truth

m2 wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:

88 wrote:The Gavelston storm of 1900 gets my vote

Hey! Somebody who doesn't have their head buried deep, deep in their ass?

That's kind of refreshing in this thread.

How is 6,000 Texans dying a tragedy? Maybe someone can help me out here?

I've been to Galvaston... and the hurricane was the best thing to ever happen to that place.


m2

At least the city leaders didn't grossly underestimate the death toll (hey 480 something isn't that much different from 3000+) or doctor photos of the damage in Galvaston.

SF is a beautiful city, but with 10 times as many people living there as in 1906, combined with virtually no building codes until the 1950s, it's a disaster on an epic scale waiting to happen.

p.s. RACK Dins.

m2 wrote:How is 6,000 Texans dying a tragedy?

It's very rare I'm left without a valid response.

This would be one of those times.

M2 runned me.

mvscal wrote:The Okeechobee hurricane of 1928 was the second deadliest weighing in at around 2,500 killed.

SF Earthquake, 1906...ring any bells?

Here's hoping the next one that hits paydirt in San Fagcisco takes out m2.

RadioFan wrote:with 10 times as many people living there as in 1906

Huh?

Best get to checking those numbers, bro.

Off the top of my head, there was roughly 450,000 people in SF in 1906(I remember this only because the story is being revisited as of late). Today, I think there's somewhere around 800,000. Not 4,500,000. Hell, there isn't a whole hell of a lot more than that in the entire Bay Area today.

combined with virtually no building codes until the 1950s, it's a disaster on an epic scale waiting to happen.

You mean like if another really, really, really big earthquake hit?

Sin,
1989

If you want to get into potential, due to building codes and whatnot -- I live in an even worse place than SF.

There's this huge industry/government scam known as "seismic retrofitting." Believe it or not, those buildings are not sitting there in the same precarios position they were 50-60 years ago.




And the Freaking Gorgeous midwesterners crack me up. "Yeah, but you have earthquakes!"

Yup, devastating ones. And the very worst place(in practice, rather than theory anyway) out of all of them, has had all of...two...spaced 83 years apart. Maybe ten minutes of ratlling in the last 100 years. The dissater that is your region shakes your world 24/7/365.

But, keep on cracking on them earthquakes. I allegedly live in the second-worst earthquake city in the country (or so they tell me, probably a geologist gunning for a grant. Anchorage is the worst-btw). And Paleface has lived around here for about 200 years now, or close to. And in that 200 years, the total number of devastating earthquakes Portland has suffered...?

The total is sitting right at zero.

Number of minor quakes in my lifetime, ones big enough to make me take notice, and even worry a little bit?

Two. Biggest one was 5.6 or something like that. BFD.Fix a couple of drywall cracks, rehang some door-trim, and good as new. Whoop-de-do.


Whatever. Anything under 6 isn't an earthquake -- it's an annoyance.

Sure, that could all change tomorrow....but I'm betting my life that it won't. And if some huge chunk of a building comes crashing down on top of me, crushing my innards, leaving me no hope for anything but a slow, inevitable, painful death....at least as I gasp for my last dying breath, I can leave this word by saying to myself...

"Could be worse -- I could be in the Midwest."

88 wrote:Midwesterners would probably kick your ass.

I doubt they could pry themselves away from their cousins' snatches long enough to undertake that all-day endeavor.

Shoalzie doesn't strike me as "likes to fight guy", anyhow.

88 wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:

88 wrote:Midwesterners would probably kick your ass.

I doubt they could pry themselves away from their cousins' snatches long enough to undertake that all-day endeavor.

When did they move West Virginia to the midwest?

I have a better question... when did the Eastern Time Zone become a part of the "Midwest"? Last time I checked... it's about 2:47 p.m. in Vicksburg, MI. Care to weigh in, Dins?

Dinsdale wrote:

88 wrote:Midwesterners would probably kick your ass.

I doubt they could pry themselves away from their cousins' snatches long enough to undertake that all-day endeavor.

Aw come on Dins, I thought we reached a truce...

I'm sure you can take me up in a fight anyways. I'm not one of those dudes that thinks he can kick anyone's ass.

And the hurricane of 1928 took a greater toll on black people. As Kleinberg noted, the '28 hurricane led to the biggest loss of black people in a single day.

it's obvious the 28 hurricane was racist......

This entry from Wikipedia of songs inspired by Katrina might make some of you change your mind. As bad as Galveston and the 1928 storm were, they never produced crap like this.

* "Better Days" by Goo Goo Dolls
* "S.S.T." and "Brand New Orleans" single by Prince (artist)
* "Cry Out To Jesus" by Third Day.
* Marc Broussard has released a 5-song live tribute album.
* "I Hope" by the Dixie Chicks
* "Any Other Day" by Norah Jones and Wyclef Jean
* "Shelter In The Rain" by Stevie Wonder
* "Hold Out A Hand" by Edwin McCain
* "Hurricane Song" by Allen Watty
* "Rise Up" by Chuck White
* "Hell No, We Ain't Alright" by Public Enemy
* "Valentine" by The Delays

Dinsdale wrote:But, keep on cracking on them earthquakes. I allegedly live in the second-worst earthquake city in the country (or so they tell me, probably a geologist gunning for a grant. Anchorage is the worst-btw). And Paleface has lived around here for about 200 years now, or close to. And in that 200 years, the total number of devastating earthquakes Portland has suffered...?

Uhhh...fine. If they don't get ya, I'm banking on Mt. Hood to soon kick your ass.

Or the tsunami.

Just as long as Dins isn't putting on the 18th or testing out the wifi at some U&L beachfront links when the Cascadia subduction zone rips.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:If they don't get ya, I'm banking on Mt. Hood to soon kick your ass.

Gambling on the averages. The last time Hood erupted, Lewis & Clark walked by just as it was finishing up. I'll roll the dice, and bet that it isn't going to happen again in the next 50 years. Not that I haven't hedged my bets by living in a different valley than would get wiped by Hood's glaciers giving way.

RadioFan wrote:Or the tsunami.

Just as long as Dins isn't putting on the 18th or testing out the wifi at some U&L beachfront links when the Cascadia subduction zone rips.

Probably won't happen anytime soon.

Oh, I don't mean the tsunami. I meant me be affected by it. Spring is upon us, which means soon, the tourists will be upon us. And I really can't freaking stand My Glorious Coast when the canadians invade. Too bad, but I plan my trips to the beach careful, and choose double-secret remore locations, so I can avoid the canadians. Fucking annoying lot, they are.

The Cascadia Subduction Zone is due, or so they keep telling us, over and over and over. I rarely have anything nice to say about W Bush, but he is kinda the guy who about a years ago said "In light of current events, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to fix all of the tsunami warning buoys in the Pacific." Not a bad idea at all, since apparently, there was only one buoy out of the entire network that actually worked.

Some geology-geeks have determined that the last Cascadia quake/tsunami here was in 1700. Paleface didn't live gere at the time, but the Japanese are pretty aware of the event, since it pretty much wiped out their eastern shoreline. Geodorks figure the quake that caused it was ~9.6, and the tsunami wave was 93 feet high -- or nearly triple the Asian Tsunami of 2004(depending who you listen to). If I happen to be on the coastal plain or estuary when that happens, then it's been nice posting with all of you. I'll be thinking of you guys as I kiss my ass goodbye. Most likely, I'll be safely inland, like I usually am(there's reasons why people don't live right on the coastline here), I'll watch it on the television, then start looking for all the bargains on beach lots.

mvscal wrote:

Risa wrote:you're so dopey, Red
i know exactly how you'd be
at a party.

Oh really?

Yes. And not just because you gave up too much
of yourself in Lana Kay's VDay thread over at .net.