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OU looked into Peterson car deal
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:21 pm
by Vito Corleone
How the heck could this not be a violation. I understand that car dealerships allow potential buyers to take a vehicle home for a test drive and even allow them to keep it over night, but according to the article he kept the car for several weeks. No dealerships do this for some Joe off the street so how is it not a violation?
Not mentioned in this article is the rumor that Bomar likes to take Limo rides to OKC to party. But that is a topic for a different thread. :twisted:
http://newsok.com/article/1819933/?template=sports/ou
OU looked into Peterson’s car deal
By George Schroeder
The Oklahoman
NORMAN - Oklahoma officials recently reviewed a car deal involving star tailback Adrian Peterson, but ultimately found it to be legitimate.
No NCAA violations were discovered in Peterson's aborted purchase of a late-model Lexus from a Norman car dealer. Peterson's mother said he drove the car for several weeks last winter before returning it, but officials from OU's compliance department determined that the practice was not out of the ordinary for customers of Big Red Sports and Imports.
During the course of the review, OU officials considered several potential penalties, including a one-game suspension. But since it was determined Peterson had not received an extra benefit - defined by the NCAA as something provided to a student-athlete that is not available to the general student body of the university - no punishment will be levied.
Citing federal privacy legislation, OU officials declined specific comment about Peterson, who will be a junior next fall and is expected to be a leading contender for the Heisman Trophy. But in a statement released Tuesday by the school, associate athletic director Keith Gill acknowledged OU had initiated and conducted the review.
"We have pursued the matter in exhaustive fashion over a five-month period," Gill said in the statement. "Based on the information we have gathered, we do not believe NCAA rules violations have occurred."
OU officials also questioned Big Red's employment of football players, but found no violations. They do not intend to file a report with the NCAA. However, it is possible the NCAA could decide to investigate.
Brad McRae, who until recently was a part-owner of Big Red, said Peterson signed a sales contract several months ago to buy the Lexus. Peterson's mother, Bonita Jackson, said she had heard many rumors in recent weeks and months about the deal.
"I've heard a lot of different stories," Jackson said. "None of them are true."
Jackson said her son returned the car because the family determined it would not be able to afford the monthly payments. McRae said the dealership regularly allowed customers who signed contracts to drive the cars for a period of time before financing had been secured.
"We didn't do anything wrong," McRae said. "Is it standard operating business practice? Yes, it's standard operating business practice."
McRae was recently "fired or quit, however you want to put it," he said, because of a dispute with Big Red's majority owner. The dealership was then sold to the Hudiburg Auto Group of Oklahoma City. McRae said his departure and the subsequent sale was not related to OU or Peterson.
McRae said in recent weeks he had heard plenty of rumors, including one that many OU players were driving cars from Big Red. OU officials had heard the rumors, as well, and received at least one call to a compliance hotline maintained to allow the public to provide tips.
Most of the rumors concerned Peterson's aborted car deal. Peterson could not be reached Tuesday for comment, but his mother and step-father said the car deal was legitimate.
According to McRae and Jackson, Peterson had his mother's permission to purchase the Lexus, and financing had been secured.
"We were gonna purchase the car, but the payments were gonna be too high, so we took the car back," Jackson said.
Peterson's step-father said Tuesday his family was committed to keeping Peterson eligible for football.
"This is our child's future," Frankie Jackson said. "We don't want anything to happen to him because of some silly car deal. We're not going to do anything to jeopardize his future."
Last fall, Peterson was forced to sit out two practices after missing too many classes, triggering the punishment phase of OU's class attendance policy for athletes. Had he missed any more classes in the fall semester, he would have been suspended for the next game.
OU officials are prevented by privacy laws from discussing Peterson's status in regard to the class attendance. However, sources said Peterson has not had further class attendance problems.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:31 pm
by indyfrisco
Nice link
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:50 pm
by Killian
Believe the Heupel wrote:Reading comprehension must be something they don't teach in Austin.
It's not a violation because it's a regular practice for them to allow potential buyers to take vehicles home for a couple of weeks as long as the financing is being worked on.
Complete 100% non-issue.
But what if he's dealing coke out of it? :?
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:50 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Believe the Heupel wrote:Reading comprehension must be something they don't teach in Austin.
It's not a violation because it's a regular practice for them to allow potential buyers to take vehicles home for a couple of weeks as long as the financing is being worked on.
Complete 100% non-issue.
My wife was driving her car almost a month before we actualy signed the papers.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:51 pm
by Vito Corleone
I posted the complete article and put in bold the fact that he had the vehicle for several weeks and he had secured financing.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:03 pm
by indyfrisco
I seriously doubt any regular 20 year old student would be able to drive a Lexus around for several weeks "while securing financing". lease4free.com wouldn't be a great business.
That being said, if all the paperwork shows it was legal, write it down as simply bending the rules but not breaking them. I'm pretty damn sure every one of our school's do this. I saw Dante Hall while at A&M driving out a tricked out Escalade all the time and he did not come from lots of money.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:32 pm
by SunCoastSooner
The family even returned it because they said they decided they couldn't afford it.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:34 pm
by indyfrisco
SunCoastSooner wrote:The family even returned it because they said they decided they couldn't afford it.
Which they probably knew in the first place. Easy way to skirt around the rules to let the kid drive in style for awhile. Like I sai, we all do it...
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:39 pm
by Killian
When I was in High School, two kids signed to go to Michigan. The Thursday after signing day, one of the players was driving a brand new Mustang with Ann Arbor dealership plates.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:59 pm
by Vito Corleone
Killian wrote:When I was in High School, two kids signed to go to Michigan. The Thursday after signing day, one of the players was driving a brand new Mustang with Ann Arbor dealership plates.
I had a high school teammate that did the same thing only he signed with SMU back in the cheating days.
The funny thing is that he got his car from the college fund he no longer needed. This isn't to say he didn't get paid while at SMU...cause he did. He ended up transfering to Tulane when $MU got the death penalty, he got drafted in the late rounds of the NFL draft and played for about 4 or 5 years as a DB/PR.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:54 am
by WolverineSteve
I can't believe this is being swept under the rug.
Do all schools partake in this behavior? Maybe. We know of a Tressel dealership that has quite a liberal financing dept.
Why should the NCAA turn a blind eye to this? Does anybody on the planet know a college kid that can afford the fucking rims on a Lexus? Securing financing my dick! This is so fucking blatant.
"They do it too." is no fucking excuse. If UM does it we deserve the penalties. Fuck these no good hood rats getting over on the systems. Too many good kids do it the right way. Going to class, getting educated. What the fuck!
Way to circle the wagons OUfan.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:10 am
by WolverineSteve
Keep telling yourself that. If you want to go on here and say that his family had a legit shot at financing a Lexus, please do. If you think that the "waiting for financing" period where the kid had the ride wasn't because of who he is...you're kidding yourself. If were in Austin you'd be crying out.
Standard business practice...giving expensive late model cars to star athletes, right. How many folks from his hood would get the same opportunity?
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:01 am
by Harvdog
Believe the Heupel wrote:Um, OK. I don't think any OU fan has said "They do it too." Guy's family was looking at buying him a Lexus. They decided they couldn't afford it just now. The school's compliance department looked at it and said that it appeared to be clean.
Not to mention the fact that the dealership is owned by an OU alum. I know for a fact if this was a Jamaal Charles or Ramonce Taylor getting a car from a dealership in Austin called "Burnt Orange Motors" y'all would be screaming foul. Especially if it was owned by a UT alum.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:07 am
by Vito Corleone
Believe the Heupel wrote:WolverineSteve wrote:Keep telling yourself that. If you want to go on here and say that his family had a legit shot at financing a Lexus, please do. If you think that the "waiting for financing" period where the kid had the ride wasn't because of who he is...you're kidding yourself. If were in Austin you'd be crying out.
Standard business practice...giving expensive late model cars to star athletes, right. How many folks from his hood would get the same opportunity?
You've audited the Peterson family finances lately?
Do you have any IDEA how easy it is to finance a vehicle these days?
Especially when you play football for the spooners
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:48 pm
by T REX
bth: No offense, but you are being a little blaise about the whole thing.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:36 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Harvdog wrote:Believe the Heupel wrote:Um, OK. I don't think any OU fan has said "They do it too." Guy's family was looking at buying him a Lexus. They decided they couldn't afford it just now. The school's compliance department looked at it and said that it appeared to be clean.
Not to mention the fact that the dealership is owned by an OU alum. I know for a fact if this was a Jamaal Charles or Ramonce Taylor getting a car from a dealership in Austin called "Burnt Orange Motors" y'all would be screaming foul. Especially if it was owned by a UT alum.
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Harv seeing as though you have probably never been to Oklahoma...
all of the car dealerships are owned by OU alumni. You act as though there isn't only one major professional university in the state.
As far as the second assumption. It isn't true or you would hear me bringing up O.J. McClintock driving around his new Four Runner with Red McCombs Toyota plastered on the back the dau after he signed his LOI in the late 90s. I knew OJ and there is
no way on God's green earth that his family could have afforded that shit. Before his LOI his family had one car, a 1970s model Pontiac and lived shit hole apartment. Suddenly they could afford a 40k+ car.
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Don't fool yourself you do do it.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:38 pm
by SunCoastSooner
WolverineSteve wrote:I can't believe this is being swept under the rug.
Do all schools partake in this behavior? Maybe. We know of a Tressel dealership that has quite a liberal financing dept.
Why should the NCAA turn a blind eye to this? Does anybody on the planet know a college kid that can afford the fucking rims on a Lexus? Securing financing my dick! This is so fucking blatant.
"They do it too." is no fucking excuse. If UM does it we deserve the penalties. Fuck these no good hood rats getting over on the systems. Too many good kids do it the right way. Going to class, getting educated. What the fuck!
Way to circle the wagons OUfan.
Dude AD's step father is by no means a poor man. His mother has a pretty nice job now as well.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:59 pm
by Killian
SunCoastSooner wrote:Dude AD's step father is by no means a poor man. His mother has a pretty nice job now as well.
Now???? What the fuck do you mean, now?????? Is your coach Nick Nolte???? Does she have a nice house, "now", too????
Fucking bullshit.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:01 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Killian wrote:SunCoastSooner wrote:Dude AD's step father is by no means a poor man. His mother has a pretty nice job now as well.
Now???? What the fuck do you mean, now?????? Is your coach Nick Nolte???? Does she have a nice house, "now", too????
Fucking bullshit.
No they used to live in a town the size of a shoe box and she didn't have a job. They moved to Southern Oklahoma to be closer to AD. His father transfered in the same company and Adrian's mom got her first job in over a decade.
When you go from one income to two incomes and from multiple children (3) to just one in a household I would think that gives a lot more money than what you were accustom to previously. Basic economics.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:01 pm
by indyfrisco
SunCoastSooner wrote:Dude AD's step father is by no means a poor man. His mother has a pretty nice job now as well.
Been there about 3 years now hasn't she? ;)
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:05 pm
by Killian
I'm sorry, anyone who says that schools should be hammered for this, need to go to the campus of the school they root for and watch the football and basketball players drive home from practice. There wouldn't be a single major D1 team not on probation.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:11 pm
by indyfrisco
^^^ swutimsayin ^^^
I don't like it. I don't think it is right. I wouldn't encourage it. However, it is what it is. The Death Penalty Era is over. If Ohio State get's busted handing a star RB recruit $100,000 cash in a duffle bag, no way do they get the death penalty. College football is such a huge business now, and the NCAA wouldn't dare shut down one of it's top 5 "products".
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:12 pm
by SunCoastSooner
IndyFrisco wrote:SunCoastSooner wrote:Dude AD's step father is by no means a poor man. His mother has a pretty nice job now as well.
Been there about 3 years now hasn't she? ;)
Not even one year. Will be a year in August. There was an article about it in the OU Daily last year.
We got Adrian cause we were the only school in the country that recruited not only him and his mother but his father as well. Nate Newton and the Barry Switzer connection had a lot to do with Adrian more than anything to do with AD at OU.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:22 pm
by the_ouskull
Heh. Nate Newton. That's not exactly a connection that I want made to AD.
As for this whole car thing, on local radio yesterday, most of the guys were acting like it was all a big joke that the article ran at all. They were calling it "an article about nothing," which is what the whole situation is... nothing. Sure, fans of schools that AD breaks off will cry "foul," but that's their right. They're just wrong. His family was going to buy him the car. They decided against it. He'll own a fleet of them in a couple of years.
the_ouskull
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:55 pm
by SunCoastSooner
the_ouskull wrote:Heh. Nate Newton. That's not exactly a connection that I want made to AD.
He was AD's fathers cell mate though so...
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:03 pm
by T REX
friends of the program?
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:24 pm
by indyfrisco
Let's not forget George Steinbrenner (OSU alum) drafting Drew Henson (marginal baseball player) and giving him way more than he was worth just so he won't play at Michigan against his Buckeyes.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:24 pm
by T REX
Believe the Heupel wrote:T REX wrote:bth: No offense, but you are being a little blaise about the whole thing.
I'm not sure what word you attempted to spell there.
Blase? Yes. I'm typically blase about stuff that isn't a big deal. Yes, I know, blase has an accented e, but I don't care enough to figure out how to make the keyboard do that.
Biased? Admittedly, I'm an OU fan, but I hardly think this is as big a deal as Tom Hicks drafting marginal baseball players and paying them signing bonuses when they sign to play football for Texas. Which isn't really that big of a deal either.
Yes.....blase.....sorry about the i......
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:25 pm
by Vito Corleone
Believe the Heupel wrote:T REX wrote:bth: No offense, but you are being a little blaise about the whole thing.
I'm not sure what word you attempted to spell there.
Blase? Yes. I'm typically blase about stuff that isn't a big deal. Yes, I know, blase has an accented e, but I don't care enough to figure out how to make the keyboard do that.
Biased? Admittedly, I'm an OU fan, but I hardly think this is as big a deal as Tom Hicks drafting marginal baseball players and paying them signing bonuses when they sign to play football for Texas. Which isn't really that big of a deal either.
I was looking at the players in the Ranger organization and I didn't see a single Texas player there, please explain.
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:50 pm
by Vito Corleone
Since when did Tom Hicks own the Dodgers or the Marlins?
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:32 am
by Vito Corleone
Funny picture especially since it looks like he is stealing the 2k championship trophy and whites heisman trophy.
I'm pretty sure he won't be getting either next year.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:02 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Vito Corleone wrote:Funny picture especially since it looks like he is stealing the 2k championship trophy and whites heisman trophy.
I'm pretty sure he won't be getting either next year.
And just who do you think will win the Heisman? Hold on, let me , guess, colt mccoy?
Your bitterness and envy is noted.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:11 pm
by Killian
I personally think Quinn will get it, but that's another argument for another time.
Some OSU site had a thread where a bunch of them were calling that dealership and asking for the same deal.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:37 pm
by Vito Corleone
I think the QB at tOSU or Quinn are the guys I think will get it.
The Spooner oline sucks too much for peterson to even have a chance. I will be amazed if Peterson makes it through the season without an injury.