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Our justice system is messed up

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:12 pm
by Dinsdale
McDonald's Stabbing Suspect Is Arraigned


By KATU.com Web Staff
VANCOUVER, Wash. - The man accused of stabbing a teenage girl while she was working at a Vancouver McDonald's restaurant was arraigned in court on Friday.

The teenager, 17-year-old Anna E. Svidersky, was taken to the hospital after the stabbing, but she later died.

David Barton Sullivan, 28, is accused of stabbing Svidersky and was arraigned Friday on a charge of first-degree murder.

David Sullivan walks into court

Police were called to the fast food restaurant in the 2800 block of Northeast Andresen just after 8 p.m. on Thursday.

Police say it appears that the suspect entered the restaurant around 8 p.m. while the victim was in the eating area. It is unclear if she was working at the time or was on a break.

Police did not disclose any details about the attack, but were able to recover the weapon used in the crime, which was described as a kitchen knife.

Police located the suspect, David Sullivan, walking along Andresen Street a short distance from the McDonald's. He was taken into custody without incident.

During a news conference Friday morning, Sullivan was described as a Level 2 Registered Sex Offender with a criminal history that includes an assault charge in 2001.

Police say he also spent time in a Washington state facility for mental illness, but he was not currently on probation or parole.

The restaurant was closed after the incident and a police chaplain counseled employees who had remained on the scene.

An employee who says she worked the night shift at the restaurant says there was usually no trouble with customers after dark.

Vancouver Police say they do not believe the suspect and the victim knew each other or were associated in any way.


Prosecute him?

Bullshit. Give the guy a medal.

That'll teach the little bitch to serve up cold fucking french fries.

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:01 pm
by Mikey
Isn' t that how Canadians usually prefer their fries?

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:21 pm
by Rack Fu
Washington is in the United States last I checked.

Or was that an anecdotal observation?

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:23 pm
by Derron
Not that I go to Mickey D's, but a friend of mine wished he was there so he could have put a bullet in the guys forehead before he stabbed the girl.

They could have made fry sauce out of the brain matter then.

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:44 pm
by Mikey
Rack Fu wrote:Washington is in the United States last I checked.

Or was that an anecdotal observation?
Good point. I saw the word "Vancouver" and it sort of flipped a mental switch. Not sure why. I guess I need to work on my reading comprehension.

:oops:

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:47 pm
by Jerkovich
Mikey wrote:
Rack Fu wrote:Washington is in the United States last I checked.

Or was that an anecdotal observation?
Good point. I saw the word "Vancouver" and it sort of flipped a mental switch. Not sure why. I guess I need to work on my reading comprehension.

:oops:
No shit. :?

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:37 am
by Mikey
Who axed you ya fukkkin' wacko?

:P

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:43 pm
by smackaholic
believe it or not, there is a vancouver washington. probably a little like the canuck one, just smaller and less gax. But, I am certain they have better gun crime.

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:51 pm
by M2
smackaholic wrote:believe it or not, there is a vancouver washington.
No way!

Next thing you know... you'll try and tell us there's a New York, NY
smackaholic wrote:probably a little like the canuck one
Not even close... idiot!



m2

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:55 am
by Diego in Seattle

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:33 pm
by Dinsdale
smackaholic wrote:believe it or not, there is a vancouver washington.
No.

"vancouver" is in canada.

"Vancouver," is the original Vancouver, and it is in Washington, directly across the Columbia from Portland.

smackaholic wrote:probably a little like the canuck one
Unless vancouver(BC) has got its rate of meth use up around 100%, then no.

A while back, Vancouver annexed some of its surrounding burbs. Fairly decent sized city, actually.

Vancouver (AKA Spuncouver) is home to the largest 4th of July fireworks display west of the Mississippi.

Vancouver is home the the hardest Par 3 golf course in the country.

Vancouver....OK, I think I covered pretty much all of the redeeming qualities it has, save for the one that 88 alreday covered. Then again, if you're a tourist and do anything but drive through Vancouver without stopping, you must be a methfreak.

For myself, I avoid the place like the plague. I just look across The Creek and say "I'm glad I don't live over there."

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:36 pm
by Jerkovich
Dinsdale wrote:
smackaholic wrote:believe it or not, there is a vancouver washington.
No.

"vancouver" is in canada.

"Vancouver," is the original Vancouver, and it is in Washington, directly across the Columbia from Portland.

smackaholic wrote:probably a little like the canuck one
Unless vancouver(BC) has got its rate of meth use up around 100%, then no.

A while back, Vancouver annexed some of its surrounding burbs. Fairly decent sized city, actually.

Vancouver (AKA Spuncouver) is home to the largest 4th of July fireworks display west of the Mississippi.

Vancouver is home the the hardest Par 3 golf course in the country.

Vancouver....OK, I think I covered pretty much all of the redeeming qualities it has, save for the one that 88 alreday covered. Then again, if you're a tourist and do anything but drive through Vancouver without stopping, you must be a methfreak.

For myself, I avoid the place like the plague. I just look across The Creek and say "I'm glad I don't live over there."
Oh ya, Port-a-pottyland is a much more righteous place. :meds:

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:43 pm
by Dinsdale
Jerkovich wrote:Oh ya, Port-a-pottyland is a much more righteous place.
No comparison between the two, actually.

Probably why you can buy a house in a decent (by Spuncouver standards) neighborhood in Vancouver for $150,000, and if you bring that same price range up on the other side of the river, the realty market laughs right in your face and asks "do you want fries with that methlab?"

But yeah...you know what you're talking about.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:51 pm
by Luther
Jerkovich, ...Vancouver, Wa. can't hold much over Portland. It is odd, you drive across the river and it is almost like you pulled into Des Moines, Iowa, or Omaha. Devoid of beauty, hills and grocery shoppers who actually shop in Vancouver instead of Portland.

Must be that sales tax thing. Sure, they've got more affordable housing, but trying to register a car worth over 20K involves restructuring a new loan just to cover those taxes.

I can't do the homer thing like Dins does, but it is really easy to do it when you want to compare Vancouver and Portland. In all honesty, I haven't been in Vancouver in probably 15 years.

Rip City

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:18 pm
by Dinsdale
Luther wrote:Jerkovich, ...Vancouver, Wa. can't hold much over Portland. It is odd, you drive across the river and it is almost like you pulled into Des Moines, Iowa, or Omaha. Devoid of beauty, hills and grocery shoppers who actually shop in Vancouver instead of Portland.

I know a guy who did the "better housing and better schools for the kids" thing in Fischer's Landing/East Spuncouver. Says if he goes to the grocery store, the only people in there are coming down out of the hills, wearing their cowboy hats and belt buckles, and speaking in Redneckese. He lives there, but won't interact with the locals.
Must be that sales tax thing.
And how can you not have respect for a town that tried to add 0.1% more sales tax, called the "Meth Tax?" I mean, anytime you're taxing something besides meth, and calling it a "Meth Tax," you're dealing with Heaven. Then again, at some point just about every adult is going to buy something," therefore I guess it's a way of taxing the meth-users.

Wait...nobody ever, ever goes into the grocery store in Spuncouver. Gas is going to have to cost 10 times more than it does to stop them from crossing the Creek to shop...and work...and entertain themselves...and everything else they do.
Sure, they've got more affordable housing, but trying to register a car worth over 20K involves restructuring a new loan just to cover those taxes.
I thought they were still under the influence of that ballot measure that capped registration fees at $30, same as Oregon...but I haven't really been keeping track, since I have no desire to register a car in WA. Because that's something else that every singe person in Vancouver does (besides meth) -- registers their car in Oregon.
I can't do the homer thing like Dins does, but it is really easy to do it when you want to compare Vancouver and Portland.
You mean the cali-peanut gallery doesn't have any idea what it's talking about? No way, dude.
In all honesty, I haven't been in Vancouver in probably 15 years.
I've been in the last 15 days. You're not missing much. More tweekers wandering the streets with shopping carts full of car parts, but other than that...same smell(sup Camas).


Rip City
Not to be confused with "Ripped a New Asshole City" across the river.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:04 pm
by Jerkovich
Dinsdale wrote:
Jerkovich wrote:Oh ya, Port-a-pottyland is a much more righteous place.
No comparison between the two, actually.

Probably why you can buy a house in a decent (by Spuncouver standards) neighborhood in Vancouver for $150,000, and if you bring that same price range up on the other side of the river, the realty market laughs right in your face and asks "do you want fries with that methlab?"

But yeah...you know what you're talking about.
Ya, I actually do. I spent several years with a company that had me driving to Federal Way from Cali several times a month. Lot of stop in between like Clackamas, Gresham, VANCOUVER, maple Valley, Astoria, Rosburg, llwaco....you get the picture. Anyway, yes I am intimately familiar with that area.

BTW, I was just pulling your leg. It's all the same to me; Just another job hocking fluid power products and engineering systems for Eaton.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:05 pm
by Dinsdale
Oh...if you drove through a few times...

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:23 pm
by Cuda
Dinsdale wrote:
Jerkovich wrote:Oh ya, Port-a-pottyland is a much more righteous place.
No comparison between the two, actually.

Probably why you can buy a house in a decent (by Spuncouver standards) neighborhood in Vancouver for $150,000, .

Is that the price with the "Owner-finished basement", or without it?

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:39 pm
by Jerkovich
Dinsdale wrote:Oh...if you drove through a few times...
No, I actually stayed at all of those places, and in Portland either at the Embassy on Pine or Mariott down on Front. There are a shit load of bars and restaurants in the area. Lot of times I would end up at the Ash street bar then stumble over to Ruth Chris.

It's been a few years, but it was usually a good time.

Again, I was just yanken' your chain. Portland is a fine place. :meds:

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:06 am
by The Seer
Dinsdale wrote:
smackaholic wrote:believe it or not, there is a vancouver washington.
No.

"vancouver" is in canada.

"Vancouver," is the original Vancouver, and it is in Washington, directly across the Columbia from Portland.

smackaholic wrote:probably a little like the canuck one
Unless vancouver(BC) has got its rate of meth use up around 100%, then no.

A while back, Vancouver annexed some of its surrounding burbs. Fairly decent sized city, actually.

Vancouver (AKA Spuncouver) is home to the largest 4th of July fireworks display west of the Mississippi.

Vancouver is home the the hardest Par 3 golf course in the country.

Vancouver....OK, I think I covered pretty much all of the redeeming qualities it has, save for the one that 88 alreday covered. Then again, if you're a tourist and do anything but drive through Vancouver without stopping, you must be a methfreak.

For myself, I avoid the place like the plague. I just look across The Creek and say "I'm glad I don't live over there."


And UCLA, which is in the Pacific 10, played in the hoops National Championship game... 8)

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:39 pm
by Dinsdale
The Seer wrote: And UCLA, which is in the Pacific 10, played in the hoops National Championship game...
Because they are the most successful college hoops program in history.

But they didn't win the FIRST Tournament. Therefore...no BODE. There can be only one holder of the Eternal BODE.

Look Up and Left. QQMF.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:38 pm
by quacker backer
about those Vancouverites that shop across the river....
The Costco near the airport has one of the highest volume sales of any Costcos in the US...most of the coverites come over and buy their cigs and diapers over here after crossing the Glen Jackson bridge...
Same with all of the stores at Hayden Island.....

The only good thing about the Couv is passing through it on the way to Seattle...

just my two cents worth
probably boring for the rest of the country but who freaking cares

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:03 pm
by tough love
Our justice system is messed up
No shit; here's a guy who should be declared a dead public hero, given a funeral befitting royalty, with Crime Stoppers paying the freight and giving his folks 2 grand to boot.

It's just unfortunate the kid was sloppy, and didn't gift society by getting to the other 32 he had listed up.


Bless You for doing God's work, Stephen A. Marshall...RIP Friend.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617207/posts

CORINTH, Maine - The Maine Department of Public Safety has no plans to change the state's Web-based sex offender registry despite the killings of two sex offenders whose addresses were apparently obtained online.

A Canadian man used the registry to obtain personal information about the victims, authorities said, renewing fears that such lists expose ex-convicts to vigilante violence.

"The events of the weekend will obviously be reviewed, but there are no plans to change the Web site at this point," Stephen McCausland, Maine Public Safety spokesman, said Monday.

The gunman, Stephen A. Marshall, a 20-year-old from Nova Scotia's Cape Breton, committed suicide Sunday night in Boston after being confronted aboard a bus by police.

Investigators were uncertain what relationship, if any, Marshall had with the victims, who lived 25 miles apart.

But the two men were among 34 names in five towns Marshall had looked up on the Web site, McCausland said. Investigators said Marshall typed in his name to receive extra information online, including street addresses.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:19 pm
by Some Damn Retard
Dinsdale wrote:
Jerkovich wrote:Oh ya, Port-a-pottyland is a much more righteous place.
No comparison between the two, actually.

Probably why you can buy a house in a decent (by Spuncouver standards) neighborhood in Vancouver for $150,000, and if you bring that same price range up on the other side of the river, the realty market laughs right in your face and asks "do you want fries with that methlab?"

But yeah...you know what you're talking about.
Which neighborhood did you buy your house in, Dins?

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:49 pm
by Luther
I thought Dins just had a room at his buddy's house. The one with all the tavern games: Dart Board, pinball machines, Gent magazines, and that heater for the massage oils.

I haven't heard many Ukrainian stories lately though.

Rip City