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Draft is unwatchable.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:21 pm
by The Seer
Is there any other program out there that has as much dead time for the talking heads to fill??????

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:40 am
by Wolfman
Super Bowl preview shows ??

NCAA hoops tournament preview shows ??

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:07 am
by MuchoBulls
RACK The Seer and Wolfman!!

It truly sucks how badly ESPN run the draft.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:21 am
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
I guess I don't see how it's ESPN's fault. We're talking about a 10 hour TV event where something interesting happens just once every 10-15 minutes. What are they supposed to do? Just sit there in silence until the next pick?

I don't really think the draft is meant to be watched nonstop, start to finish (although I have no doubt that there are people who do it). After the first 15 picks or so, I turned down the TV, threw on some CDs, and started picking up around the house. I checked back in every now & then to see what was going on.

You guys don't really expect it to be 10 hours of non-stop excitement and insightful commentary, do you?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:58 am
by Shoalzie
NFL Network's coverage is pretty good...it's less about the presentation and more about the content. Corey Chavous knows his stuff...I can imagine he'll be a member of some team's front office someday. Also, Rich Eisen is much less annoying than Chris Berman.

Re: Draft is unwatchable.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:30 am
by Mikey
The Seer wrote:Is there any other program out there that has as much dead time for the talking heads to fill??????
But you watched it, right?

:lol:

Re: Draft is unwatchable.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:54 am
by Cicero
The Seer wrote:Is there any other program out there that has as much dead time for the talking heads to fill??????

I feel ya. Does ESPN really need 12 people discussing the draft? Chris Berman's act is so tired. They only need 3 people: Berman, Chris Mortensen and Mel Kiper. Irvin and Jackson brought nothing to the table. Just another example of ESPN thinking it is bigger than the event itself.

Re: Draft is unwatchable.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:57 am
by The Seer
Mikey wrote:
The Seer wrote:Is there any other program out there that has as much dead time for the talking heads to fill??????
But you watched it, right?

:lol:

No, and NO!

Saw in the TV Guide that it started at like 9:30am. I turned the TV on at around 2:00pm and they were half way through the 1st round of picks...I was wondering what the hell they did for the previous 4 hrs......Shook my head and muttered that anyone that can sit through that is an uncurable NFL junkie

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:34 am
by WhatsMyName
If the draft is unwatchable for you, you just aren't as diehard as the rest of us.

Period.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:32 am
by M2
WhatsMyName wrote:If the draft is unwatchable for you, you just aren't as diehard as the rest of us.

Period.
Yep!

I remember having to wait till the next day to read about it in the paper...

Old school

I never watch the draft for who or what is reporting it... I'm there to see who we pick so that we will...


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m2

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:28 pm
by MuchoBulls
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:I guess I don't see how it's ESPN's fault. We're talking about a 10 hour TV event where something interesting happens just once every 10-15 minutes. What are they supposed to do? Just sit there in silence until the next pick?
That's the thing. I doubt all these teams are taking 10-15 minutes to make a pick. ESPN needs to show their highlights of the player, then have that player broken down by 10 "experts". In my mind we don't need to see all of that.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:55 pm
by Funkywhiteboy
The actual draft coverage is almost anticlimactic,
after a month of "Preview Special" shows. :P

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:43 am
by WhatsMyName
m2 wrote:
WhatsMyName wrote:If the draft is unwatchable for you, you just aren't as diehard as the rest of us.

Period.
Yep!

I remember having to wait till the next day to read about it in the paper...

Old school

I never watch the draft for who or what is reporting it... I'm there to see who we pick so that we will...


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m2
Vernon Davis and Manny Lawson. That is sickening. Have fun with those.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:22 pm
by Bizzarofelice
49ers got a whole lot of young talent that will learn what it is like to lose, lose, lose.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:40 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
I watched the first 30 picks or so of the 1st round (does anyone really need to watch more than that?).

Later that evening, I checked back in just to see who the Lions took and to see where some of the bigger names ended up in later rounds.

The only problem I had with ESPN's coverage was that in the later rounds when a guy got drafted, the crew would ignore said selection and continue to talk about Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Leinart, etc., and of course, just hammered away at the same old points about why they will or will not make it in the NFL. It wasn't until about 15 minutes later that Mel Kiper would mention the mysterious selection's 40 yard time, or something. I wanted to actually learn something about these guys I've never heard of.

I really didn't need to see Ron Jaworski break down the flaws of Vince Young's mechanics 47 times. Yes, we get it: a quarterback is not supposed to throw like Dennis Eckersley.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:45 pm
by BSmack
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:The only problem I had with ESPN's coverage was that in the later rounds when a guy got drafted, the crew would ignore said selection and continue to talk about Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Leinart, etc., and of course, just hammered away at the same old points about why they will or will not make it in the NFL. It wasn't until about 15 minutes later that Mel Kiper would mention the mysterious selection's 40 yard time, or something. I wanted to actually learn something about these guys I've never heard of.

I really didn't need to see Ron Jaworski break down the flaws of Vince Young's mechanics 47 times.
DING!!!!

That pretty much sums up why the draft, as produced by ESPN, is utterly unviewable to even a die hard football fan after the first round. I spent Saturday hanging out with an old college bud pounding beer and watching the draft/Yankees-Jays game. After about the middle of round 2, you could see that they were showing the same fucking clips over and over again of Hoge and Jaworski breaking down the guys ESPN had identified as the "star" players. WTF ever happened to "Go Deep"?

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:51 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
After the first 3 rounds, they should just air normal coverage, maybe a baseball game or something, and keep the draft ticker on the screen - Best of both worlds.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:04 pm
by WhatsMyName
It was covered just fine. They showed highlights of the players even in the later rounds. If you don't like it/aren't interested, the choice is simple. I personally only stayed glued to the TV up through the Denver pick of Cutler, but I repeatedly checked back to see the updates from time to time.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:11 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
The former QBs (Jaworski and Steve Young) were pimping Cutler hard. It'll be interesting to see how he turns out.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:13 pm
by Cicero
Is anyone shocked that the only 2 black guys(Irvin and Jackson) thought Young was the best QB in the draft?

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:15 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Not really. A lot of people (asians and hispanics too) thought VY would be the best QB in the draft after the way he dismantled USC.

If he proves he has the ability to learn how to read NFL defenses, I'd have to agree.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:24 pm
by BSmack
WhatsMyName wrote:It was covered just fine. They showed highlights of the players even in the later rounds.
How the fuck would you know?
WhatsMyName wrote:I personally only stayed glued to the TV up through the Denver pick of Cutler, but I repeatedly checked back to see the updates from time to time.
I watched the first three rounds. And after the middle of round two, they stopped breaking down every player picked.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:29 pm
by Uncle Fester
Anybody see William Henderson (Packer's fullback) slam Mel Kiper? Nailz. :)

(Kiper, way back when, said Henderson was the Packer's worst pick.)

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:36 am
by WhatsMyName
BSmack wrote:
WhatsMyName wrote:It was covered just fine. They showed highlights of the players even in the later rounds.
How the fuck would you know?
WhatsMyName wrote:I personally only stayed glued to the TV up through the Denver pick of Cutler, but I repeatedly checked back to see the updates from time to time.
I watched the first three rounds. And after the middle of round two, they stopped breaking down every player picked.
I watched parts of the later rounds. Perhaps your team picked a bunch of scrubs not worth covering, hence the lack of highlights.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:32 am
by velocet
I got a pretty good intro to the players to follow during the upcoming training camps. I mean, prior to saturday I'd never heard of anyone named D'Brickashaw or Mario williams or Hawk etc. So now when I read the training camp roundup reports there's at least a frame of reference. And all I had to do was devote some hours during one weekend in April in front of the tube. The coverage was good enough for that purpose.






velocet

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:01 pm
by BSmack
WhatsMyName wrote:I watched parts of the later rounds. Perhaps your team picked a bunch of scrubs not worth covering, hence the lack of highlights.
In other words, you're talking out of your ass. Thanks for the confirmation.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:33 pm
by WhatsMyName
Quote poster here.

Insert randomness here. Enter "thanks for the confirmation" here. Stay unfunny.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:44 pm
by BSmack
WhatsMyName wrote:Quote poster here.

Insert randomness here. Enter "thanks for the confirmation" here. Stay unfunny.
Maybe next time you could try commenting on something you've actualy SEEN?

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:59 pm
by WhatsMyName
Your reading comprehension and your humor are neck and neck coming down the home stretch.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:03 pm
by BSmack
WhatsMyName wrote:Your reading comprehension and your humor are neck and neck coming down the home stretch.
You could always try TiVo. That might help your takes. I doubt it, but there's not much help out there for you. So go with what you can.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:14 pm
by WhatsMyName
That's it, I'm officially bored. Produce a real take and maybe I'll answer it in a couple hours, otherwise, just keep being BSmack somewhere else. Image

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:24 pm
by BSmack
WhatsMyName wrote:That's it, I'm officially bored.]
Most five year olds also bore rather easily.