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war protests in WW2 ??
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:21 am
by Wolfman
Top 10 Things That Anti-War Protesters Would Have Said At the Normandy Invasion on D-Day (Had There Been Anti-War Protesters At Normandy)
11. No blood for French Wine!
10. It’s been two and a half years since Pearl Harbor and they still haven’t brought Admiral Nagumo to justice
9. In 62 years, the date will be 6/6/6. A coincidence? I think not.
8. All this death and destruction is because the neo-cons are in the pocket of Israel
7. The soldiers are still on the beach, this invasion is a quagmire
6. Sure the holocaust is evil, but so was slavery
5. We are attacked by Japan and then attack France? Roosevelt is worse than the Kaiser!
4. Why bring democracy to Europe by force and not to Korea or Vietnam? I blame racism
3. This war doesn’t attack the root causes of Nazism
2. I support the troops, but invading Germany does not guarantee that in 56 years we won't have a President who's worse than Hitler
1. I don't see Roosevelt or Churchill storming the beaches -- they're Chicken Hawks
from
http://nihlist.blogspot.com
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:03 am
by M2
Wolfman...
Seriously, do you have a brain cell left that can think on it's own?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:12 am
by Ken
Christ... I read the thread title and it just oozed of wolfman undertones... read: I would rather open a thread with the words grass, rate of growth, and mowing height in it.
Sure 'nuff... author= wolfman.
The ONLY thing that remotely pique`s my curiosity has nothing to do with the content or title,
but rather
how the hell
his post
didn't read like
this.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:21 am
by Tom In VA
I don't see what's wrong with this top ten list I mean so, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be listing ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten then where can you go from there? Where?
Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:26 am
by M2
Tom In VA wrote:I don't see what's wrong with this top ten list I mean so, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be listing ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten then where can you go from there? Where?
Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Tom, do you ever question why people are slow...
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:48 am
by Ken
Tom In VA wrote:I don't see what's wrong with this top ten list I mean so, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be listing ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten then where can you go from there? Where?
Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Even "wtf" doesn't do this justice.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:51 am
by Tom In VA
Ken wrote:Tom In VA wrote:I don't see what's wrong with this top ten list I mean so, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be listing ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten then where can you go from there? Where?
Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Even "wtf" doesn't do this justice.
Exactly, this list goes to 11.

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:05 am
by Ken
Oh, in that case, you were very eloquent. Like, 11 eloquent.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:09 am
by Diego in Seattle
James;
Don't you ever get tired of parroting Hannity's lines? Have you ever tried thinking for yourself before you C&P another of his idiot thoughts?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:13 am
by Y2K
Diego in Seattle wrote:James;
Don't you ever get tired of parroting Hannity's lines? Have you ever tried thinking for yourself before you C&P another of his idiot thoughts?
Out of all this Internet Crap that get cut and Pasted that I haven't a clue where the shit comes from it's always Diego that knows it's from Hannity or Limbaugh or whatever Right wing radio slut of the day is. I'd swear this guy is a closet NeoCon.
Re: war protests in WW2 ??
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:45 am
by Nishlord
Wolfman wrote:Top 10 Things That Anti-War Protesters Would Have Said At the Normandy Invasion on D-Day (Had There Been Anti-War Protesters At Normandy)
11. No blood for French Wine!
10. It’s been two and a half years since Pearl Harbor and they still haven’t brought Admiral Nagumo to justice
9. In 62 years, the date will be 6/6/6. A coincidence? I think not.
8. All this death and destruction is because the neo-cons are in the pocket of Israel
7. The soldiers are still on the beach, this invasion is a quagmire
6. Sure the holocaust is evil, but so was slavery
5. We are attacked by Japan and then attack France? Roosevelt is worse than the Kaiser!
4. Why bring democracy to Europe by force and not to Korea or Vietnam? I blame racism
3. This war doesn’t attack the root causes of Nazism
2. I support the troops, but invading Germany does not guarantee that in 56 years we won't have a President who's worse than Hitler
1. I don't see Roosevelt or Churchill storming the beaches -- they're Chicken Hawks
from
http://nihlist.blogspot.com
Anyone who compares the war against Nazism with the fuck-up in Iraq is a fucking moron.
For one thing, the US wouldn't have got involved until 2008.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:37 am
by Diogenes
Nishlord wrote:Anyone who compares the war against Nazism with the fuck-up in Iraq is a fucking moron.
For one thing, the US wouldn't have got involved until 2008.
Wrong analogy.
If the U.S. was emulating you chaps, we would have ignored the Rhineland, Austria, the Sudaten and the rest of the Czechoslovakian invasion because the threat wasn't immenant.
His violation of '91 cease fire was his Rhineland, unlike you, we did something about it.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:08 pm
by Wolfman
Tom is the only one to get the joke ??
maybe not so amazing
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:28 pm
by BBMarley
Ken wrote:Tom In VA wrote:I don't see what's wrong with this top ten list I mean so, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be listing ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten then where can you go from there? Where?
Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Even "wtf" doesn't do this justice.
Never seen Spinal Tap?
Re: war protests in WW2 ??
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:43 pm
by The Seer
Nishlord wrote:Wolfman wrote:Top 10 Things That Anti-War Protesters Would Have Said At the Normandy Invasion on D-Day (Had There Been Anti-War Protesters At Normandy)
11. No blood for French Wine!
10. It’s been two and a half years since Pearl Harbor and they still haven’t brought Admiral Nagumo to justice
9. In 62 years, the date will be 6/6/6. A coincidence? I think not.
8. All this death and destruction is because the neo-cons are in the pocket of Israel
7. The soldiers are still on the beach, this invasion is a quagmire
6. Sure the holocaust is evil, but so was slavery
5. We are attacked by Japan and then attack France? Roosevelt is worse than the Kaiser!
4. Why bring democracy to Europe by force and not to Korea or Vietnam? I blame racism
3. This war doesn’t attack the root causes of Nazism
2. I support the troops, but invading Germany does not guarantee that in 56 years we won't have a President who's worse than Hitler
1. I don't see Roosevelt or Churchill storming the beaches -- they're Chicken Hawks
from
http://nihlist.blogspot.com
Anyone who compares the war against Nazism with the fuck-up in Iraq is a fucking moron.
For one thing, the US wouldn't have got involved until 2008.

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:51 pm
by Nishlord
Oh dear. The door gets shut long after a different horse has bolted, and the residential board morons get all uppity.
At least Chamberlain didn't tell the Nazis that their opinion towards the Jews was similar to those of his golf club.
Diorreah wrote:Wrong analogy.
If the U.S. was emulating you chaps, we would have ignored the Rhineland, Austria, the Sudaten and the rest of the Czechoslovakian invasion because the threat wasn't immenant.
And if we were emulating your lot, we would have still been funding the Nazis and supplying them with helicopters and turning a blind eye to the mass graves.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:57 pm
by Tom In VA
Nishlord wrote:Oh dear. The door gets shut long after a different horse has bolted, and the residential board morons get all uppity.
At least Chamberlain didn't tell the Nazis that their opinion towards the Jews was similar to those of his golf club.
Diorreah wrote:Wrong analogy.
If the U.S. was emulating you chaps, we would have ignored the Rhineland, Austria, the Sudaten and the rest of the Czechoslovakian invasion because the threat wasn't immenant.
And if we were emulating your lot, we would have still been funding the Nazis and supplying them with helicopters and turning a blind eye to the mass graves.
We're still dealing with the residual effects of your country's meddling throughout the centuries. And by WE, I mean WE. So use that finger you like to point WESTWARD, to turn a few pages of some history books.
If you must turn it into US vs. THEM, or YOU vs. US, or what the fuck ever, remember there is no "we were emulating your lot", it's impossible. We're cleaning up after YOUR's, again.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:57 pm
by BSmack
After re-reading that "list", I have come to the conclusion that the person writing it is either a troll or retarded.
Or both.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:04 pm
by Mister Bushice
Still don't see how so many posters here think this ^^^ british turd has such great game.
He's been the euro equivalent of FOO lately. Nothing but whiny, bitchy posts about how bad America(ns) are.
Ever think about just shutting the fuck up nishlord and NOT hitting submit in a political thread? Seriously, your anti american rants are a fucking worse read than Dr detroits ravings about park place.
You should just go back to posting lame ass articles about moronic british sods who have managed to off themselves in some really stupid way. At least there was some entertainment value in those, whowever slim that was.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:04 pm
by The Seer
BSmack wrote:After re-reading that "list", I have come to the conclusion that the person writing it is either a troll or retarded simply because I don't agree with it...
Or both.
FTFY-NC
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:16 pm
by BSmack
The Seer wrote:BSmack wrote:After re-reading that "list", I have come to the conclusion that the person writing it is either a troll or retarded simply because I don't agree with it...
Or both.
FTFY-NC
What's to agree about it? It's historicaly inaccurate at best. At worst it is propaganda for the simple minded. Just a few things off the top of my head.
The idea of anyone calling Churchill a chicken hawk is laughable.
Israel DIDN'T EVEN EXIST during WWII.
Korea and Vietnam WERE liberated from the Japanese.
The war obliterated Nazisim to the point where even wearing a Nazi armband as a joke is considered a gross political faux pas (see Prince Harry).
Two and a half years after Pearl Harbor, the man who planed the attack (Isoroku Yamamoto) was DEAD. Can we say the same about bin Laden?
The rest of the post is too stupid even to rate comment.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:27 pm
by Tom In VA
BSmack wrote:After re-reading that "list", I have come to the conclusion that the person writing it is either a troll or retarded.
Or both.
Perhaps. But it'd be interesting to see few people address each item and attack IT, rather than the poster.
For instance.
7. The soldiers are still on the beach, this invasion is a quagmire
This is ridiculous. In order to suppose liberals had pull, we never would have lasted up to June 1944. The Kasserine Pass would have broken our will.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:33 pm
by BSmack
Tom In VA wrote:BSmack wrote:After re-reading that "list", I have come to the conclusion that the person writing it is either a troll or retarded.
Or both.
Perhaps. But it'd be interesting to see few people address each item and attack IT, rather than the poster.
For instance.
7. The soldiers are still on the beach, this invasion is a quagmire
This is ridiculous. In order to suppose liberals had pull, we never would have lasted up to June 1944. The Kasserine Pass would have broken our will.
Apples and fucking bowling balls Tom. And you should know that.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:36 pm
by Wolfman
The idea of anyone calling Churchill a chicken hawk is laughable.
One thing for sure--the English people did not
support Chruchhill after Gallipoli.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gallipoli
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:48 pm
by BSmack
Do you even know what the words chicken hawk mean?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:14 pm
by mothster
mvscal wrote:Tom In VA wrote:The Kasserine Pass would have broken our will.
That one was almost understandable. You had a grass green American Corps going up against one the finest operational commanders in the Wehrmacht. A drubbing was inevitable.
But if the American people truly understood the appallingly moronic fuck up that resulted in the bloodbath in the Hürtgen Forest, they would have been howling for the heads of everyone involved in that debacle. Stephen Ambrose refered to the battle as an act of "criminal stupidity".
Three months of misery and 33,000 casualties for absolutely nothing.
kasserine pass = american forces under british command
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:17 pm
by mothster
mvscal wrote:moth post = wrong as two left shoes
thats what rommell said in 'patton'
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:23 pm
by mothster
i thought 'patton' made the attempt to be historically correct, ......
frigghen hollywood
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:28 pm
by mothster
i remember the part where patton is informed that the ambush he led on the german forces was not led by rommel (suffering from nasal diptheria?) according to g-2
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:31 pm
by BSmack
mothster wrote:i thought 'patton' made the attempt to be historically correct, ......
frigghen hollywood
Not so much. But Scott was classic when saying.
"Rommel, you magnificent bastard. I read your book."
Even if it never happened.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:31 pm
by Tom In VA
mvscal wrote:
But if the American people truly understood the appallingly moronic fuck up that resulted in the bloodbath in the Hürtgen Forest, they would have been howling for the heads of everyone involved in that debacle. Stephen Ambrose refered to the battle as an act of "criminal stupidity".
What about Market Garden as well.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:33 pm
by mothster
Tom In VA wrote:mvscal wrote:
But if the American people truly understood the appallingly moronic fuck up that resulted in the bloodbath in the Hürtgen Forest, they would have been howling for the heads of everyone involved in that debacle. Stephen Ambrose refered to the battle as an act of "criminal stupidity".
What about Market Garden as well.
another hollywierd travesty 'a bridge too far' ? killer cast tho......
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:35 pm
by mothster
mvscal wrote:BSmack wrote:Not so much. But Scott was classic when saying.
"Rommel, you magnificent bastard. I read your book."
Even if it never happened.
All the more amusing considering Rommel's book was on infantry tactics.
not to defend anything but i recall the book title bein 'the tank in attack' or somethin like that
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:42 pm
by Tom In VA
mvscal wrote:That isn't the case with the battle in the Hürtgen which was a no win situation. That forest had absolutely no strategic or tactical significance and the terrain completely nullified our air power advantages.
I remember reading about the tree bursts. Then in seeing the recreation if them in "Band of Brothers", un fucking real.
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:43 pm
by mothster
mvscal wrote:Tom In VA wrote:mvscal wrote:
But if the American people truly understood the appallingly moronic fuck up that resulted in the bloodbath in the Hürtgen Forest, they would have been howling for the heads of everyone involved in that debacle. Stephen Ambrose refered to the battle as an act of "criminal stupidity".
What about Market Garden as well.
It was a defeat and you can make a case that the plan was overly ambitious, but the lacksidaisical performance by the British XXX Corps certainly didn't help. In any event, the objective was worth taking the risk.
That isn't the case with the battle in the Hürtgen which was a no win situation. That forest had absolutely no strategic or tactical significance and the terrain completely nullified our air power advantages.
i'd assume the 'band of brothers' episode on that was accurate (market garden)
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:52 pm
by JCT
mvs, you read Army At Dawn?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:18 pm
by JCT
Yep Atkinson. All about No. Africa, very good read. Dude's making a trilogy, next one will be about Sicily and Italy, a much overlooked theater IMO.
I have a Gray Line, also a good book. Follows the class of 1966 through West Point and Vietnam.
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:36 am
by Diogenes
BSmack wrote:
Do you even know what the words chicken hawk mean?
They mean that the person throwing the phrase around is a dipshit.
Sin,
J. Adams
T. Jefferson
J. Madison
B. Franklin.