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Cal now has...85% graduation rate and 3.1 GPA average sound awesome!

Unreal!!!

Rack these kids...

they're getting more outta school than I/most.

I feel like a "proud" father!!!

m2 wrote:Cal now has...85% graduation rate and 3.1 GPA average sound awesome!

Whatever Mr. 15%er...

I feel like a "proud" father!!!

Why? Did you attend Cal? Do you have a child that attends Cal?

I'm a'confused

I think he meant it in a George Michael kinda way.

I feared as much

If it's in a george michael kind of way then wouldn't he be a proud mother too?

shit - it gets worse

Worse...so he pitches and catches? Wow

IndyFrisco wrote:

m2 wrote:Cal now has...85% graduation rate and 3.1 GPA average sound awesome!

Whatever Mr. 15%er...

Rack

I'm sure the ballers at Harvard and Princeton have lots of 'bode as well for their graduation stats. In this debate Stanford will have eternal 'bode on Kal.

But hell, if graduation rates are all you can bring about your squad, by all means step up. Watching m2ool get plungered is never a bad thing.

hmmmm..



lol:

Did M2 go to Cal or not?

I always assumed it did, but based on some recent threads I am having my doubts.

I believe m2 applied there and that was about it.

Selling wind chimes = Selling insurance

He's still working towards an Applied Medieval Studies degree.

I have no problem with guys supporting a school they didn't go to, but dropping academic smack is assanine.

I've noticed this fairly often with M-Douche, I always assumed that he went there.

I didn't think it was possible, but now I have even less respect for him as a poster.


<---Actually Attends the University of Michigan.

m200L didn't go to Kal.

Sometimes all one has is academic sma...ah, screw it! War a win over Texas in '93, a winning record against Florida, a ton of close losses, and having an offense everyone wants to use on NCAA 2006 for playstation!

Lefty, when are you coming back to Ann Arbor?

I think Cal Tech has bode over everyone...isn't that the school with the basketball team where like everyone is a Phd???


KAL BLOWS...

I thought medieval skands were called wenches?

Vito Corleone wrote:I thought medieval skands were called wenches?

only when drinking mead and eating a turkey leg.

m2 is a colossal douchebag and his flouting of every little thing Cal is extremely annoying.


That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.

Danimal wrote: That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.

it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days in addition to overall grade inflation.....it's damn near impossible to fail in college at a big public university if you go to class and turn things in on time.


sin,

one university instructor

King Crimson wrote:

Danimal wrote: That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.

it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days in addition to overall grade inflation.....it's damn near impossible to fail in college at a big public university if you go to class and turn things in on time.


sin,

one university instructor

Grade inflation is at least as bad in private universities, parents blowing huge $ at the school don't accept their kids getting crap-grades.

how can any school seriously take religous based science classes seriously? Thats like college prep nursery tales

Danimal wrote:

King Crimson wrote:

Danimal wrote: That said, 85% does deserve props. A team that actually wins and graduates most of their players doesn't happen very much.

it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days in addition to overall grade inflation.....it's damn near impossible to fail in college at a big public university if you go to class and turn things in on time.


sin,

one university instructor

Grade inflation is at least as bad in private universities, parents blowing huge $ at the school don't accept their kids getting crap-grades.

that's mos def true. i didn't really mean to make the pub/priv disctinction so sharp....because it's untenable re: grade inflation. i could give many examples of the unspoken pressures that one feels in determining low end grades.

it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days

I am going to disagree on multiple things here. I actually think it was easier back in the day. Hell, when I played we had tutuors so that is nothing new. We had study hall and all that good stuff too. Hell, we even had people to "type" our papers for us, and as they typed them, they edited them. Now with the increased attention on "student" in student athletes schools can no longer have papers typed. Sure there are nice computer labs and such, but the athletes have to do the work.

And for my second point, grade inflation is not just for athletes. There are plenty of colleges where if you just show up and hand in your homework you will get nothing lower than a C regardless of who your parents are.

I think I had it easier when it comes to school work than athletes today do.

Left Seater wrote:

it's getting a lot easier....with the kind of "tutoring" athletes get these days

And for my second point, grade inflation is not just for athletes. There are plenty of colleges where if you just show up and hand in your homework you will get nothing lower than a C regardless of who your parents are.

I think I had it easier when it comes to school work than athletes today do.

i never meant grade inflation was just for athletes....it doesn't discriminate. it's across the board.

well, the way the athletic tutoring works today is student-athletes work in "groups"...with a tutor and they justify this as "team-building" and group communication skills etc.....but the work tends to look an awful lot the same. and there's a lot of semi-doctored cut and paste plagiarism. and the labor is divided such that student A does Chapters 1-5, Student B Chapter 6-10, etc....and they pool their notes and all that. it's organized cheating, really.....but they CALL it "group-work".

but, plagiarism is enabled by digital technology/internet in ways that no one could have imagined just a few years ago. you can buy papers on-line on literally almost anything. it's really pretty amazing.

Agreed on the group work thing, but again that is not something new. Group work has been around as long as I have been alive and will prolly be around when I am gone.

Having a mother who was a teacher, I have had the reasoning behind group work explained to me, but I still think it is crap. Back when I was in school the teachers never put the "best" students together. Instead they would mix it up so the top students were grouped with some of the worst. The top student ended up doing all the work and everyone else in the group put their name on it and got the credit.

Again, not much different than the "sharing" as you put it, in my book.

WAR all group "learning" meeting its end.

i guess my point is that that in the Colorado Athletic Dept. case "the group-work" is overseen, and in most cases moderated, by the "tutor". and I think it would be naive to think CU is unique.

when non-athlete students do it (as they have been doing since time immemorial)....it's not something the University is *paying* someone to do.

you guys got us 9-5 today, so props to Rice. but, a good year for the Sooners. we just kind of ran out of pitching.

I guess I see your point at least partially. However, there were paid employees of Wharton that actually worked for my wife and her cohort while she was in grad school. These "secretaries" if you will were available for any type of work from research to writing to slide prep in powerpoint.