For the tools who think...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:53 pm

These new "man law" commercials are funny, clever or creative in any way, you need a serious personality overhaul.

Just FYI.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:10 pm

I'm with you. The basic concept has potential, but the commercials so far have shit the bed.

Sidenote...the dude missing a hand, is he the guy who had to cut his own hand off when he was trapped under a boulder?

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:28 pm

^^^

Badasses

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:35 pm

apples-to-oranges, JSC. I'm referring to an ad of the comedic genre. Who the fuck checks out ED ads for any sort of "entertainment" anyway?

Wait...don't answer that.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:39 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Who the fuck checks out ED ads for any sort of "entertainment" anyway?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:09 pm

Ok, I remember that. Fair enough.

Still, I hate the argument of, "well, it's better compared to..."

Just because it's better in comparison to something else doesn't mean it isn't crap.

Even then, saying it's better by comparison to much of anything else is a bit of a stretch.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:50 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: Just because it's better in comparison to something else doesn't mean it isn't crap.

Even then, saying it's better by comparison to much of anything else is a bit of a stretch.

Did you just make a man law?

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:05 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I hate the argument of, "well, it's better compared to..."

You might hate the argument, but the word better implies that one thing is being compared to another and that a value/quality judgment is being made based on that comparison. Otherwise, better has no meaning.

Just because it's better in comparison to something else doesn't mean it isn't crap.

That much is true. An example: "Sissyroo is a better poster than Anatomically Punked." Doesn't mean I'm fixin' to have my broker buy shares of 'roo.

Even then, saying it's better by comparison to much of anything else is a bit of a stretch.

OK, but just to be clear about where you're comin' from in terms of what constitutes advertising quality, are you sayin' that all commercials are shitty? All beer commercials? If not, cite an example of a commercial that is "funny, clever or creative in any way," so we have something against which to judge the Man Law spots, which aren't that bad compared to most of the tripe on the tube. Maybe not LOL funny, but not bad.

Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:08 pm

Your a better poster then I thought.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:14 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:Anatomically Punked

not trying to pile on or ankle bite or obsess or anything, AP.
Just sayin' that this was funny.
As mentioned, not trying to carry our argument into another thread. Just here to praise the old gray hippie.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:00 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:You might hate the argument, but the word better implies that one thing is being compared to another and that a value/quality judgment is being made based on that comparison. Otherwise, better has no meaning.

The reason I hate the argument is that a comparison isn't necessary to begin with. It doesn't matter what you compare this ad to, it sucks regardless. It sucks on its own. The problem with the opposition even bringing the comparison card into play is that the ad must suck if it's being compared to crap, and is then deemed only slightly better than said crap by comparison.

OK, but just to be clear about where you're comin' from in terms of what constitutes advertising quality, are you sayin' that all commercials are shitty?

As far as humorous ads go, I'd say close to 98% are.

If not, cite an example of a commercial that is "funny, clever or creative in any way," so we have something against which to judge the Man Law spots, which aren't that bad compared to most of the tripe on the tube. Maybe not LOL funny, but not bad.

Again, to me, the answer to this is irrelevant. The sucktitude of the Man Law ads won't change one bit regardless of what they're compared to. You see, in my world, there's "shit that's funny" and "shit that's not". I suppose there's even "shit that's kinda funny". But there certainly isn't "shit that's funny if compared to ____". I'm not going to give something leeway simply because its counterparts are even more inferior.

But to answer your question - I don't have a great answer for that, seeing as there isn't even one recent ad that sticks out in my mind as having even broken the "decent" barrier. The ad depicting the 4 white dudes in the car rapping, perhaps wasn't all that clever, but was very well done, I thought, and incited a chuckle or two. The product plug escapes me though...(guess they didn't really do their job then).

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:04 pm

PrimeX wrote:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: Just because it's better in comparison to something else doesn't mean it isn't crap.

Even then, saying it's better by comparison to much of anything else is a bit of a stretch.
Did you just make a man law?

If Burt Reynolds has one more face lift he's gonna be wearing a goatee, btw

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:07 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: But to answer your question - I don't have a great answer for that, seeing as there isn't even one recent ad that sticks out in my mind as having even broken the "decent" barrier.

I'm not a big "commercials guy," by any stretch...but the Trunk Monkey ad campaign has been quite deece.

http://www.trunkmonkeyad.com/4qt.htm

^^^Was probably my favorite.

Radio ads are good, too -- http://www.trunkmonkey.com/content/view/77/51/

The Trunk Monkey isn't fully nationwide, but is in a lot of markets now. OF COURSE, it's a U&L thing...of course. Now sold to Ford dealerships nationwide.

That ad where the chick talks shit about getting open for a pass and scoring on dude, then after she catches the ball, dude comes in from out of the picture and levels the hottie, and starts yelling "you were open, but now you're CLOSED!!!!" or whatever he says. That ad cracked me up...the first time.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:19 pm

Jsc810 wrote:Oh come on. Maybe they're not the best beer commercials, but still, they are better than most ads on tv. Would you rather watch a man law ad, or one for hemorrhoids, ED, or some feminine product?

http://manlaws.com/

It's an ad for the bottled horse-piss otherwise known as Miller Lite, which if that were the only beer that I could get my mitts on, I'd rather drink the Kool-Aid called wine coolers...

Wait... on 2nd thought, I'd stay sober.

Point is, regardless of how funny or creative Miller Lite ads are (they aren't, btw) they aren't working. No self-respecting beer drinker would serve that piss to his dog. It is funny watching ML trying to compare themselves to Bud Light, though. Buds' ads are much more creative and funny, not to mention that they aren't trying to sell recycled urine, which helps to give the message more cred.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:29 pm

War Wagon wrote:No self-respecting beer drinker would serve that piss to his dog. It is funny watching ML trying to compare themselves to Bud Light, though. Buds' ads....aren't trying to sell recycled urine

Oh, dear God...

This may be the greatest "slice of Americana" ever served up on the internet.

And Billybob probably doesn't even understand why I....

Can't....Stop....Laughing......Must....Catch....Breath......

Fucking TEARS rolling down my face.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:44 pm

I knew Dinsypoo would be along to laugh at my regular choice of adult beverage.

That's cool, Dins. You can have all the pale ales, wheat lagers, merlots, cabernet sauvignons or whatever the fuck your snooty little U&L bitch ass likes to imbibe.

I'll stick with the only good thing to ever come out of St. Louis, Mo.

The One, The Only, The KING of BEERS.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:03 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
War Wagon wrote:No self-respecting beer drinker would serve that piss to his dog. It is funny watching ML trying to compare themselves to Bud Light, though. Buds' ads....aren't trying to sell recycled urine

Oh, dear God...

This may be the greatest "slice of Americana" ever served up on the internet.

And Billybob probably doesn't even understand why I....

Can't....Stop....Laughing......Must....Catch....Breath......

Fucking TEARS rolling down my face.

Agreed. Funniest shit I've read in a long, long time.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:07 pm

War Wagon wrote:whatever the fuck your snooty little U&L bitch ass likes to imbibe.

The Dinsdale is not partaking of the demon alcohol at present.

My grip upon sobriety has become tenuous, at best. It's slipping...slipping away. My internal organs (and crack medical staff) say "no," but my alcoholism and need to meet chemically-altered-to-be-attractive women says "yes."

A precarious position, this.

Part of me knows that my lifespan may be shortened by pickling my innards at this point. Part of me knows that life really isn't worth living without my old friend Alcohol.

Maybe as a compromise, I'll have something foofoo-ish. Something with liquers and stuff. A white russian, perhaps. A russian quaalude, maybe. Surely if I only sip on drinks of the womanly variety, the Gods Of Cirrhosis will take pity upon my impure soul? Or, is it the opposite? Will They be angered by my affront to maledom, and smite me down for acting the faggot?

Would they be more linient towards me if I sip some fine single malt, two rocks? Would horfing it neat be a more sincere showing of my commitment to Booze Heaven? A martini as an appetizer?

These questions...questions of faith...can they really be answered? Any spiritual guidance the Drinking Gods may have offered me in the past...well, frankly, I was too drunk to get the message. I hope they're not pissed about that.

Things I am certain about at this point are twofold:

First, the life of a teetotaler bites serious fucking ass. My friends aren't nearly so funny when I'm not drinking-btw.

Secondly, if I ever see that Bill W motherfucker, he's got one serious chunk of asswhooping coming his way.

It's been entirely too long since I woke up on a parkbench, in an alley, or in some strange and possibly-unattractive woman's bed....heaven forbid that the beergoggles occasionally pony up a hottie...

And I'm finding this entire (new) experience rather unfufilling and underwhelming.

That quaint little hydrocarbon chain is my salvation...my first love...my reason for being.

RACK booze

The urge is becoming too great. Meltdown imminent. But hey, I'm sure a birthday celebration and various summer festivals should help me stay off the sauce, right?

Screw this...an early death doesn't sound that bad.

Cheers.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:23 pm

War Wagon wrote:I knew Dinsypoo would be along to laugh at my regular choice of adult beverage.

That's cool, Dins. You can have all the pale ales, wheat lagers, merlots, cabernet sauvignons or whatever the fuck your snooty little U&L bitch ass likes to imbibe.

I'll stick with the only good thing to ever come out of St. Louis, Mo.

The One, The Only, The KING of BEERS.

I never understood... I mean NEVER understood why anyone would not want to spend the extra few bucks and get themselves a case of something that remotely resembles or tastes like a good beer. Hang on... let me get the calculator out....

1 window air conditioning unit- $399
$$$ saved buying shit for beer- $4

399/4 = 100 cases of beer

I get it now. Carry on and my bust, war wagon.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:02 am

One thing that strikes me as odd about the Coors/Bud/Miller crowd is that they're always quick to point out their disapproval of the far too fancier microbrews and obscure imports as if these beers are their ONLY other alternatives.

Are Killians Irish Red, Labatt products, Molson products, Rolling Rock, etc., "high quality" beers? Not quite. Are they a fuck of a lot better than Bud Light? Hell yes. And you don't even have to spend Dutch-imported prices for them either. Ever heard of middle ground, you cellar swillers? Why "settle" for that shit when you can spend somewhere within the same ballpark and get a serious taste upgrade without having to lose face with your redneck buddies?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:14 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:And you don't even have to spend Dutch-imported prices for them either. Ever heard of middle ground, you cellar swillers?

Around these parts, where we're 20 years ahead of the rest of y'all in craft brewing and whatsuch....there was a bygone era known as the "Glory Days." Back then, the studier micros were often 6% and up, which provided the same "bang for the buck," alcohol-wise, as their pisswater counterparts.

The corporate-type-thinking as the major breweries grew saw this fault in the logic, and scaled the ABV way the hell back. Why sell someone 5 beers, when you can sell them 8, right?

Long live Hair Of Dog Brewing. I don't think those OG cats make anything under 10%...for their light beers.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:30 am

under 10%...for their light beers.

That's the other thing that gets me about the urinedrinkers. Not only are you choosing to drink a beer with little or no taste (and in the case of most of these beers, NO taste is the better option), you're choosing to drink a beer that impressively combines horrible taste WITH adversely low levels of alcohol. You're 0/2. You did not accomplish EITHER of the two vital goals when drinking your beer. 2/2 is ideal. But to not even compete for one? And on top of that...you're PAYING for that experience?

Mind blowing stuff.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:59 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:One thing that strikes me as odd about the Coors/Bud/Miller crowd is that they're always quick to point out their disapproval of the far too fancier microbrews and obscure imports as if these beers are their ONLY other alternatives.

Are Killians Irish Red, Labatt products, Molson products, Rolling Rock, etc., "high quality" beers? Not quite. Are they a fuck of a lot better than Bud Light? Hell yes. And you don't even have to spend Dutch-imported prices for them either. Ever heard of middle ground, you cellar swillers? Why "settle" for that shit when you can spend somewhere within the same ballpark and get a serious taste upgrade without having to lose face with your redneck buddies?

agreed. it's either bottom of the fucking barrel for me (busch) or i'm spending the extra money on something above the level of bud, miller, etc. if you buy budweiser, you are just wasting your money, might as well buy busch. it's the same shit.

the local party store has been stocking sixers of molson export lately, i'll have to pick it up. now only if it'll start stocking canadian ice...

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:24 am

The Dinsdale is not partaking of the demon alcohol at present.

My grip upon sobriety has become tenuous, at best. It's slipping...slipping away. My internal organs (and crack medical staff) say "no," but my alcoholism and need to meet chemically-altered-to-be-attractive women says "yes."

A precarious position, this.

Part of me knows that my lifespan may be shortened by pickling my innards at this point. Part of me knows that life really isn't worth living without my old friend Alcohol.

Maybe as a compromise, I'll have something foofoo-ish. Something with liquers and stuff. A white russian, perhaps. A russian quaalude, maybe. Surely if I only sip on drinks of the womanly variety, the Gods Of Cirrhosis will take pity upon my impure soul? Or, is it the opposite? Will They be angered by my affront to maledom, and smite me down for acting the faggot?

Would they be more linient towards me if I sip some fine single malt, two rocks? Would horfing it neat be a more sincere showing of my commitment to Booze Heaven? A martini as an appetizer?

These questions...questions of faith...can they really be answered? Any spiritual guidance the Drinking Gods may have offered me in the past...well, frankly, I was too drunk to get the message. I hope they're not pissed about that.

Things I am certain about at this point are twofold:

First, the life of a teetotaler bites serious fucking ass. My friends aren't nearly so funny when I'm not drinking-btw.

Secondly, if I ever see that Bill W motherfucker, he's got one serious chunk of asswhooping coming his way.

It's been entirely too long since I woke up on a parkbench, in an alley, or in some strange and possibly-unattractive woman's bed....heaven forbid that the beergoggles occasionally pony up a hottie...

And I'm finding this entire (new) experience rather unfufilling and underwhelming.

That quaint little hydrocarbon chain is my salvation...my first love...my reason for being.

RACK booze

The urge is becoming too great. Meltdown imminent. But hey, I'm sure a birthday celebration and various summer festivals should help me stay off the sauce, right?

Screw this...an early death doesn't sound that bad.

Cheers.

RACK THE EVERLIVING FUCK OUT OF THAT POST!

That part about wanting to beat down Bill W has me rolling. Fucking classic!

Ok, time for an admission here. Along around 1995 I met Bill W...stayed sober for like 13 grueling months, just to prove that I could. I got this shiny little tin medal that I still keep, i forget where 'zactly.

Anyways, for some of the reasons you mention above and others as well, I said to hell with all that happy horseshit.

Live and let live?
One day at a time?
There but for the grace of God?
12 freaking Steps?

Fuck that noise, I WANT a goddamn beer, and I MEAN to have me a goddamn beer....or 20.

Good luck, Dins. That part about the foofoo drinks won't work, as I'm sure you know. An alcoholic, by definition, can't be a social drinker.

To an alcoholic, one drink is too many and 100 isn't enough. Once you start, you can't stop until you're pretty much shit-faced drunk.

You can't stop drinking, or stay stopped, for family, health, or job related reasons.

The only way that a person of an alcoholic nature can stay sober is that they want to stay sober more than they want to get drunk. Kind of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. A real Catch-22.

Or get their ass tossed in prison, which really isn't an appealing option for most "functioning" alcoholics.

Again, good luck battling those demons.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:34 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:And you don't even have to spend Dutch-imported prices for them either.

Another sweet aspect about vacationing in Holland - Heineken (as well as Grolsch and Amstel) is cheaper than Coca Cola, and is unpasteurized, unlike the imported version, making it even tastier. The people we stayed with had a dispenser into which fit Heineken mini-kegs, so we always had it on tap. Great beer, great smoke, fine-lookin' women, decent food, friendly folks ... yeah, I'm goin' back.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:39 am

Screw_Michigan wrote: ...it's either bottom of the fucking barrel for me (busch) or i'm spending the extra money on something above the level of bud, miller, etc. if you buy budweiser, you are just wasting your money, might as well buy busch. it's the same shit.

How dare you equate Bud and Miller?

Another punkass beer snob, I see.

This just in moron, but Busch beer is no where close to being "the same shit" as Bud.

As for bottom of the barrel, you'll have to reach a lot fucking deeper than Busch before you reach the level of Natty Lite, etc.

the local party store has been stocking sixers of molson export lately, i'll have to pick it up. now only if it'll start stocking canadian ice...

A whole six pack, eh?

What the fuck you gonna' drink after you get home? You gots some Mikes Hard Lemonade stocked up?

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:51 am

War Wagon wrote:This just in moron, but Busch beer is no where close to being "the same shit" as Bud.

As for bottom of the barrel, you'll have to reach a lot fucking deeper than Busch before you reach the level of Natty Lite, etc.

I agree. You'll have to reach down to the level of Bud & Bud Lite.

This just in, Whitey ... the self-anointed "king" is swill. Fuggin' nasty shit.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:08 am

Smackie Chan wrote: I agree. You'll have to reach down to the level of Bud & Bud Lite.

This just in, Whitey ... the self-anointed "king" is swill. Fuggin' nasty shit.

Self annointed? Check the sales figures, dumbfuck. I personally own like at least 1/10th of one percent of Anheuser-Busch, but 'self-annointed' beer snob cunts like you know better, right? Why don't you try telling me which wine goes best with sushi, you goddamn faggot.

As for the Whitey gloss...who the fuck are YOU, again...and why in the hell are you in here babbling about something that you know nothing about?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:12 am

War Wagon wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote: ...it's either bottom of the fucking barrel for me (busch) or i'm spending the extra money on something above the level of bud, miller, etc. if you buy budweiser, you are just wasting your money, might as well buy busch. it's the same shit.
How dare you equate Bud and Miller?

Another punkass beer snob, I see.

This just in moron, but Busch beer is no where close to being "the same shit" as Bud.

As for bottom of the barrel, you'll have to reach a lot fucking deeper than Busch before you reach the level of Natty Lite, etc.

the local party store has been stocking sixers of molson export lately, i'll have to pick it up. now only if it'll start stocking canadian ice...
A whole six pack, eh?

What the fuck you gonna' drink after you get home? You gots some Mikes Hard Lemonade stocked up?

if you think bud is on a higher pedestal than miller, then you are a fucking idiot, end of fucking story. you can't dress up a turd. and yes, busch and bud is pretty much the same shit, i.e. not worth paying the extra money for that swill bud.

you can't even win this argument. might as well start digging your own grave, bucko.

Louis Cyphre · Post by **Louis Cyphre** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:25 am

War Wagon wrote: This just in moron, but Busch beer is no where close to being "the same shit" as Bud.

This just in... Busch and Bud are made by the same shit brewery. It's obvious that drinking Bud didn't make you any wiser.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:25 am

Screw_Michigan wrote: you can't even win this argument. might as well start digging your own grave, bucko.

I won this debate before it even started, because alls one has to do is look at the sales figures to know that Miller can't touch Bud. It's not just a matter of my opinion, (athough that carries much more weight than even Dins after a night of debauchery) it's about cold, hard numbers.

As for digging my own grave, I reckon that we all start doing that about 5 seconds after the doctor spanked that ass.

Did you have something more to add? Break into that Mikes Hard, yet?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:31 am

Louis Cyphre wrote:
This just in... Busch and Bud are made by the same shit brewery. It's obvious that drinking Bud didn't make you any wiser.

And GM also makes Cadillacs and Chevys...I'm sorry, did you have a point that you were trying to make?

99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer...

Rack my sig, or suck my dick, I've got 'em all lined up tonite..

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:38 am

War Wagon wrote: How dare you equate Bud and Miller?

Another punkass beer snob, I see.

Don't you see? This makes you the beer snob here, asshole. But a snob of the worst kind. A snob of shit. Irony in its purest form. Yes, your snobbery has sunk to the low of contrasting what is essentially dog urine...and cat urine. I wonder, how refined does your palate have to be to actually recognize the difference between Busch and Bud? Is that like debating who's a better lay between your daughter and your step daughter? I wouldn't know. Not too sure how you guys roll down there. Up here, the only time I'm a part of any urine intake is when I'm merely watching myself giving your mother a golden shower.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:43 am

sales don't mean shit, asswipe. just because bud is able to brainwash a notable size of the idiot shit beer drinking public to buy bud instead of miller doesn't mean it's any fucking better.

shit is shit. bud is shit, miller is shit, busch is shit. busch costs less. get it?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:46 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: Don't you see? This makes you the beer snob here, asshole. But a snob of the worst kind. A snob of shit. Irony in its purest form. Yes, your snobbery has sunk to the low of contrasting what is essentially dog urine...and cat urine. I wonder, how refined does your palate have to be to actually recognize the difference between Busch and Bud? Is that like debating who's a better lay between your daughter and your step daughter? I wouldn't know. Not too sure how you guys roll down there. Up here, the only time I'm a part of any urine intake is when I'm merely watching myself giving your mother a gold shower.

Ooooh, bringing out the big smack guns now, eh?

Yes, I do see...how to reduce you to a gibbering baboon.

Not good on ya'.

I like Bud Lite. You got's a problem with that?

Go fuck yourself.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:50 am

War Wagon wrote:I like Bud Lite. You got's a problem with that?

case closed.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:51 am

i have much more respect for the admitting busch light drinker than the proud bud L-I-G-H-T drinker.

you and AP should get together sometime.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:53 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:sales don't mean shit...

What? Are you still in kindergarten or something?

Sales mean everything, stupid.

Go to bed and ask Mommy to make it stop...maybe Magoo will drop by and give her a golden shower later.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:54 am

War Wagon wrote: Ooooh, bringing out the big smack guns now, eh?

Give it a go some time, and you might pole vault to the level of readability, there budman.

Next time the tv tells you what to go out and buy, just stop...hit the power button...and think for yourself.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:55 am

how refined does your palate have to be to actually recognize the difference between Busch and Bud?

That always used to baffle the hell out of me in my bartending days. People would come up and ask for coors lite draft. we didn't have it, so I'd offer natty lite or bud lite. They acted like I'd urinated in their faces.

What in the bleeding fuck is the difference between piss and urine?