real opinions about radiohead

[King Crimson]

i like radiohead, but i just don't see that they are so great. in superlative hero worship terms.

is it a younger zeitgeist i just don't get, because musically....they don't say much i don't already know....the annihilation of humanity by technology is a pretty old gig. Chaplin did it in the first 20 minutes of Modern TImes, and Kubrik 30 years ago in 2001.

i do think it's still timely, but i see as a very good band but not a great band.

and like Socrates, I am a man who enjoys being refuted.

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong.

[patsy stone]

You're wrong. ;)

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

is it a younger zeitgeist i just don't get, because musically....they don't say much i don't already know....the annihilation of humanity by technology is a pretty old gig. Chaplin did it in the first 20 minutes of Modern TImes, and Kubrik 30 years ago in 2001.

Are you assuming this point is important to all Radiohead fans, or fans of music in general? Come on, man. The subject you're weighing in on, I can guarantee you, is of little importance to the fan of live shows, the fan of hauntingly beautiful studio albums like OK Computer and Kid A, and the fan of monopolized vocals like Thom Yorke's. Their brilliance is in their ability to take simple arrangements and make the songs interesting (and fun) to listen to.

Not everyone needs a 10 minute guitar solo to stay entertained. Kinda like not everyone needs to have their humor spoon fed to them like George Carlin fans do.

They've got dance beats, they've got straight ahead rock, melodic acoustic stuff and something for every mood. And they do all this while maintaining their own sound - which is what music's all about. Too many bands get criticized for not re-inventing a new genre every time they put out an album, and that's too bad. In the end, isn't a quality listening product really all that matters? It's just music...doesn't need to be so deep.

[PSUFAN]

Hey, this was my thread!

sincerely,

viewtopic.php?t=6111

just about a year ago, actually...

[King Crimson]

is it a younger zeitgeist i just don't get, because musically....they don't say much i don't already know....the annihilation of humanity by technology is a pretty old gig. Chaplin did it in the first 20 minutes of Modern TImes, and Kubrik 30 years ago in 2001.

Are you assuming this point is important to all Radiohead fans, or fans of music in general? Come on, man. The subject you're weighing in on, I can guarantee you, is of little importance to the fan of live shows, the fan of hauntingly beautiful studio albums like OK Computer and Kid A, and the fan of monopolized vocals like Thom Yorke's. Their brilliance is in their ability to take simple arrangements and make the songs interesting (and fun) to listen to.

Not everyone needs a 10 minute guitar solo to stay entertained. Kinda like not everyone needs to have their humor spoon fed to them like George Carlin fans do.

They've got dance beats, they've got straight ahead rock, melodic acoustic stuff and something for every mood. And they do all this while maintaining their own sound - which is what music's all about. Too many bands get criticized for not re-inventing a new genre every time they put out an album, and that's too bad. In the end, isn't a quality listening product really all that matters? It's just music...doesn't need to be so deep.

if you think i need a 10 minute guitar solo to stay entertained you are huffing paint thinner under the interstate bridge with all the other styro throwaways of Moloch's America. to the point of deserved parody, i've pimped Double Nickels on the Dime on this board and other post-smackboard chatters. if i heard mortar shells i'd cuss more in my songs, and cut down on the......(?)

i think it's pretty sad that "Fans of the live shows" see "little importance" in that theme....which seems to me to be a pretty consistant deal and pretty canny with RH--one of their strengths. so, are you saying that Radiohead fans are tone puppets...i don't get it?

and i'm curious, without being sadistic this time, what's a "monopolized vocal".

I LIKE radiohead, but i don't think OK COmputer is the best Rock record of the last 25 years as was recently published. it was an honest question....

[King Crimson]

Hey, this was my thread!

sincerely,

viewtopic.php?t=6111

just about a year ago, actually...

while i'm t'rowing up racks to PSU.....i would also like to rack myself and Prime X for my smiths comment here. i would post the same today. it is also telling. Spin was a joke of a rag....even inna day.

hatful of hollow, while a compilation, is the best smiths record. the self-titled one is #2.

i've got a bootleg of a show in Germany in 1984.....it rules.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

if you think i need a 10 minute guitar solo to stay entertained you are huffing paint thinner under the interstate bridge with all the other styro throwaways of Moloch's America.

That was more towards the Vans and RadioFans. You know...the guys that extend logic even into music.

and i'm curious, without being sadistic this time, what's a "monopolized vocal".

A monopoly on unique. I always thought that way of York.

I LIKE radiohead, but i don't think OK COmputer is the best Rock record of the last 25 years

Neither do I. I don't even think it's Radiohead's best effort.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The Smiths are very overrated.

[patsy stone]

The Smiths are very overrated.

Oh c'mon. "Very"? Why not just "overrated"? You stepped outta line there, buddy!

[King Crimson]

Morrissey is very overrated.

fixed that fer ya.

[Bizzarofelice]

if i heard mortar shells i'd cuss more in my songs, and cut down on the......(?)

OO OO I KNOW THIS ONE!!!!!

As for The Smiths, you gotta get into them when you're young and predisposed to mopiness. The only thing more self-centered than a teenager is a Smiths song. They're mopey pop tunes. The appeal now is older fans that inject some nostalgia in each song.

As for Radiohead, I really like them. I really really like those albums.

I LIKE radiohead, but i don't think OK COmputer is the best Rock record of the last 25 years

What's better? Seamonsters? Live at Actiona Park? Soft Bulletin? Vee Vee?

[PSUFAN]

VV, as I was recently reminded, is great, but some of the material weighs it down. Seen in the whole Bachmann range, though...it ranks as some of the best.

[Screw_Michigan]

ok computer is the best radiohead album and one of the top 5 albums written in the last decade. ok computer is IMO an unintended concept album, the tourist plays into airbag if you start the cd over. lucky, exit music, let down, climbing up the walls all fit into the concept. it's incredible that radiohead went from a straight forward rock band putting out an album like the bends into one of the most progressive alternative rock bands in the world.

i agree with both KC and m_go. while "theme" is important, the music is paramount. the two reasons why i don't listen to ted nugent: 1) his music sucks, 2) he sucks.

and the smiths suck as well. i've always thought of the smiths as a minor-league version of interpol. obviously paul banks is very influenced by morrisey, but the smiths are just not nearly as exciting.

and rack bizzaro for this epic blast:

The only thing more self-centered than a teenager is a Smiths song.

or if you're a young woman who is, for some god forsaken reason, obsessed with british culture and music.

[King Crimson]

i've always thought of the smiths as a minor-league version of interpol.

interpol is a minor league version of Joy Division.

i like interpol, let's call a spade a spade.

johnny marr is way cooler than every member of interpol combined.

[King Crimson]

What's better? Seamonsters? Live at Actiona Park? Soft Bulletin? Vee Vee?

those are good picks....how about Surfer Rosa? or Doolittle?

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The Smiths are very overrated.

Oh c'mon. "Very"? Why not just "overrated"? You stepped outta line there, buddy!

I'm not going to say I love the Smiths because all the rock purists say I should.

They're ok...albums don't have much staying power for me.

[MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan]

The Bends was really good. OK Computer was fucking epoch. It definitely makes my all-time top 10 list. They've pretty much just been treading water since, though.

Then again, I think Reign In Blood is the #1 album of all time and the Smiths are pretty much just faggy, so take my recommendation with a grain of salt.

[Screw_Michigan]

i've always thought of the smiths as a minor-league version of interpol.

interpol is a minor league version of Joy Division.

i like interpol, let's call a spade a spade.

johnny marr is way cooler than every member of interpol combined.

yeah, i know. i've been trying to get into joy division. obviously new order is an offshoot of joy division, but i got into new order a lot more than JD. i'll have to give it another shot.

and obviously interpol could be classfied as minor league JD, but at least paul hasn't blown his head off yet. BODE interpol.

[PrimeX]

i've got a bootleg of a show in Germany in 1984.....it rules.

Please share?

[PSUFAN]

at least paul hasn't blown his head off yet. BODE interpol.

The retreads always live longer. It's like an unwritten rule and shit

[Bizzarofelice]

I've got a bootleg of me and the wife on a roadtrip singing along to the entire Louder Than Bombs compilation. Anyone want that?


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[Spinach Genie]

Radiohead, at their best, can be experimental without the overwhelming pretention or dada-ist elitism of other heralded acts. They effectively combine technical ability with good pop sensibilities as well as a myriad of emotional tones that come together very seamlessly at times. I don't know how high of a pedestal I'd put them on, but I think calling them a "great" band is a pretty safe one. Their last studio album was almost a complete mail-in, so it's hard to say how much gas is left in their tank...but I think OK Computer and to some extent Kid A will be remembered among the better albums of this generation.

[Spinach Genie]

at least paul hasn't blown his head off yet. BODE interpol.

The retreads always live longer. It's like an unwritten rule and shit

Yeah. I like Interpol, but JD owns that sound. It took a crazy, suicidal epileptic to make it. Otherwise, you just had New Order...a melancholy dance act.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Their last studio album was almost a complete mail-in, so it's hard to say how much gas is left in their tank

Hail To The Thief has great singles, but for some reason, the album "experience" just isn't there.

Dismissing it completely is a bit much, though. I mean...they're few and far between, but there's moments on that disc when Radiohead is at its best.

[Spinach Genie]

The better moments on that disc sounded suspiciously like Bside material that didn't make Kid A or Amnesiac. I don't know. It sounded rushed out.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Where I End and You Begin is one of the best songs they've ever written (imo), and Myxomatosis is one of the songs that really stood out in my mind, when I saw them play awhile back. It was incredible.