T1B

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:32 pm**

been celebrated in Syracuse
for quite a while !

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:34 pm**

Wolfman wrote:been celebrated in Syracuse
for quite a while !

^^^^^^^^^ Remembers when they freed the slaves in Syracuse.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:36 pm**

I believe the grandest Juneteenth celebration takes place in (you guessed it) the U & L. Yep, up here we invented freeing the black people. And when it comes to celebrating Juneteenth, nobody does it like the U & L.

We get all jacked up on microbrews better than any of you will ever have the pleasure to sample, drive square-headed deck screws into our ears, and ride bicycles around on 47,000,000 miles of undocumented bike trails. Sucks not to be us.

Sincerely,

Deecedale

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:36 pm**

^^^Was pissed that it happened while a Republican was in office.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:44 pm**

OCmike wrote:^^^Was pissed that it happened while a Republican was in office.

John Quincy Adams was a Republican?

Psst! Slavery was officially abolished in NY in 1827.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:50 pm**

Goobs, you sad, misinformed fuck.

Nice swing and a miss.

My U&L schtick involves Portland being superior to all other metro areas. Because IT IS.

Now, why would we go and celebrate an African-American holiday, when we don't really have much in the way of African-Americans to speak of?

Whitest major city in the country, bro.

I think the BODE speaks for itself.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:52 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:Now, why would we go and celebrate an African-American holiday, when we don't really have much in the way of African-Americans to speak of?

Whitest major city in the country, bro.

Well sure, once they had their freedom, they got the hell out of there.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:09 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:How could I have lived in the South all my life and never heard of this?!

http://www.juneteenth.com/

Never heard the first word of it from anybody...black, white, whatever.

Weird.

Because the South has more important things to celebrate in June? different strokes for different folks. And mvscal is right: it is a Texan thing. But it's also a black thing. And it should be an American thing. Knowledge is power. And who's really going to spit upon an excuse to fire up the barbeque? that's gotta be some major league hate in one's heart for the reason. make sure it's a clean hate.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/ ... eliskv.jpg
Approaching Fairview, Kentucky, and the Jefferson Davis Obelisk.
...
The memory of Jefferson Davis is still powerful in many places. His birthday is celebrated as an official holiday in four states (Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, South Carolina) and several others hold Confederate Memorial Day (as opposed to National Memorial Day) on June 3rd, even though it is really the last Monday is April. The Jefferson Davis Highway snakes around the corridors of power in suburban Washington, DC, and sculptures and statues of the man adorn various places from Stone Mountain, Georgia to the University of Texas in Austin.... Elsewhere in Jeff Davis country, at the First White House of The Confederacy in Montgomery, Alabama, where Davis lived in 1861, ... Continuing a long and valiant tradition, festivities included Night Artillery firing, a Celebration Ball, the annual Miss Confederacy Pageant(and its sister pageants, Wee Miss Confederacy, Little Miss Confederacy, and Junior Miss Confederacy), rifle and artillery salutes to President Davis, a keynote address by Gary Rope, portraying Robert E Lee, who said that the monument was "the symbol of a great God-fearing culture." ...At 351 feet tall, it is the largest concrete obelisk in the world, and the fourth tallest monument in the United States. The top three are St. Louis's Gateway Arch, 630 feet tall; San Jacinto (Texas) Monument, 570 feet (built to the peoples who created an independent country -- just like the Confederates), and the Washington Monument, 555 feet....Fairview is also home to a "zero mile" marker for the Jefferson Davis Highway. While never officially sanctioned by the US Department of Transportation, and not listed on many maps, the United Daughters of the Confederacy conceived the JDH back in 1913 (one year after the Lincoln Highway was proposed) as a coast-to-coast road through the Southern capitals. Since then, daughters and granddaughters of the Confederacy have created and erected monuments and markers along many parts of the highway. The Fairview route is actually one of several extensions of the highway, running from Kentucky south to Biloxi, Mississippi.

According to some Confederate nationalists, the Jefferson Davis Highway is "the largest monument to an American," covering 3,417 miles and traversing 13 states.

(Jefferson Davis Monument: Fairview, KY [Show Map] Directions: About 8 miles east of Hopkinsville on US 68/Hwy 80 (Jefferson Davis Hwy). Hours: Daily 9 am - 5 pm. Obelisk tours every half hour on the hour. Phone: 270-886-1765)

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:26 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote: Well sure, once they had their freedom, they got the hell out of there.

Do you know anything about anything?

Yeah, nothing like sitting around the campfire, and recounting all those legendary tales about all of the negroes who sold everything they owned to set out on that trail for Oregon City...

I mean, if it wasn't for all of those African Americans, we may never have been able to cut down all those trees and build a city. All those historical sites are just FILLED with the stories of daring-do from those blacks that settled the Northwest...really.

You're getting more retarded by the minute...

Dumbass.

In case you actually cared, there weren't any blacks in this area until they built the shipyards during WW2, at which time they imported them from Detroit. Aaaaand, they did a DAMN FINE job in service of their country, and made the Port of Portland the most prolific producers of Liberty Ships in the nation by war's end. On a side note, my bestest buddy's grandfather was the guy who built and ran the place, and when he died, my bud inhereted the handwritten letter from FDR thanking his gradfather for his instrumental role in winning the war, which now resides in a frame on his wall...pretty freaking cool, regardless whether Dinsdale says so or not (thereby inciting your instinctive "if Dinsdale said it, it must be wrong" silliness).

Speaking of dense forests, it looks like Eastmoreland has my name written all over it. Although, thick forests make for better cycling than they do for golf, and certainly have no place on a woman's nethers...SUP RISA.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:45 pm**

Way to take the joke literally, mr ultra seriousness.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:56 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: Well sure, once they had their freedom, they got the hell out of there.
Do you know anything about anything?

Yeah, nothing like sitting around the campfire, and recounting all those legendary tales about all of the negroes who sold everything they owned to set out on that trail for Oregon City...

I mean, if it wasn't for all of those African Americans, we may never have been able to cut down all those trees and build a city. All those historical sites are just FILLED with the stories of daring-do from those blacks that settled the Northwest...really.

You're getting more retarded by the minute...

Dumbass.

Dinsdale, earlier, wrote:Now, why would we go and celebrate an African-American holiday, when we don't really have much in the way of African-Americans to speak of?

Whitest major city in the country, bro.

So what happened to all those pioneers, Professor?

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:26 pm**

Risa wrote: So what happened to all those pioneers, Professor?

Sorry. I should have thrown the [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags on there for the intellectually challenged.

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:46 pm**

Dinsdale wrote:
Risa wrote: So what happened to all those pioneers, Professor?

Sorry. I should have thrown the [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags on there for the intellectually challenged.

Yes, you should have. The treks african americans made to the west following freedom and the end of the american civil war were legion, they were long, they were fruitful, and unfortunately they were bitterly contested and finally buried in many instances.

Portland sounded like a case of burial... but you were only joking, after all? what made portland different from other cities in the american west?

Posted: **Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:53 pm**

Risa wrote:what made portland different from other cities in the american west?

Probably the complete lack of any and all law enforcement in its early days...probably not the ideal environment for an African American in the mid/late 1800's.

Plus, some of them thar negroes look a little like a beaver, so they might have feared the trappers.

But, as far as post-WW2 -- they actually came up with a plan during/after the war, since they didn't want "them darkies" living with the civilized folk. They hearded them all to an independent municipality(which is now part of Portland) known as Vanport(Vancouver/Portland, although it's in Oregon). And, well...dams weren't what they are today, and after some particularly heavy flooding...

Well, there ain't no more Vanport no more no more(really cool golf course in that area now, though). The blacks had no place to live after that, so they kicked them out.

Fuckers repopulated, though.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:02 am**

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Way to take the joke literally, mr ultra seriousness.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:42 pm**

I think the BODE speaks for itself.

It always does. Nonetheless, many will speak for it, of it, nearby it.

Claim it, and it will come.

T1B

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