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Our Legal System

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:39 pm
by Neely8
So a judge in New York admits that two cops are guilty of murder but the 5 year statute of limitations ran out?
NEW YORK - A judge on Friday threw out a racketeering murder conviction against two detectives accused of moonlighting as hitmen for the mob, saying the statute of limitations had expired on the slayings.

U.S. District Judge Jack Weinstein also granted a new trial to the defendants, Louis Eppolito and Stephen Caracappa, on money laundering and drug charges.

Defense attorneys had argued that the five-year statute of limitations had expired on the most serious allegations against the pair — that they committed or facilitated eight killings between 1986 and 1990 while on the payroll of both the New York Police Department and Luchese crime family underboss Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso.

Prosecutors had countered that the murders were part of an ongoing conspiracy that lasted through a 2005 drug deal with an FBI informant.

In a 77-page ruling, Weinstein agreed with a jury that Eppolito and Caracappa were guilty of murder, kidnapping and other crimes, but he said the law compelled him to set aside the verdict.

"The evidence at trial overwhelmingly established the defendants' participation in a large number of heinous and violent crimes," the judge wrote. "Nevertheless an extended trial, evidentiary hearings, briefings and argument establishes that the five-year statute of limitations mandates granting the defendants a judgment of acquittal on the key charge against them — racketeering conspiracy."

After the detectives retired and moved to Las Vegas in the mid-1990s "the conspiracy that began in New York in the 1980s had come to a definite close," the judge wrote. "The defendants were no longer in contact with their old associates in the Luchese crime family."

There is no statute of limitations on murder in the state of New York, but the men were prosecuted at the federal level because of the higher likelihood of a conviction for racketeering.

Eppolito, 57, whose father was a member of the Gambino crime family, and Caracappa, 64, were convicted in April in what was considered one of the worst cases of police corruption in New York history.

"It's exactly what we argued during the trial," said Edward Hayes, Caracappa's trial lawyer. "I am very happy for my client, and I do feel it is a vindication of our trial strategy."

Im all for due process and all but this is ridiculous........

Re: Our Legal System

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:56 pm
by Moving Sale
Neely8 wrote: There is no statute of limitations on murder in the state of New York, but the men were prosecuted at the federal level because of the higher likelihood of a conviction for racketeering.
Since they can still be charged at the State level, a la the cops that beat Rodney King, what's the problem?

Re: Our Legal System

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:27 pm
by Neely8
Moving Sale wrote:
Neely8 wrote: There is no statute of limitations on murder in the state of New York, but the men were prosecuted at the federal level because of the higher likelihood of a conviction for racketeering.
Since they can still be charged at the State level, a la the cops that beat Rodney King, what's the problem?

There is no mention that they can be tried on the state level in the article. Why wouldn't he throw out the rackateering charges but keep the murder convictions intact? Is it "if one is thrown out then they all are"? Im no lawyer.......just hate seeing scum getting off......

Re: Our Legal System

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:19 pm
by Moving Sale
Neely8 wrote: There is no mention that they can be tried on the state level in the article.
What can I say? Still happens to be true.
Why wouldn't he throw out the rackateering charges but keep the murder convictions intact?
'Cause the rack is ongoing so the SoL had not run. Judge can throw out the murder convictions and leave the others.

Re: Our Legal System

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:58 am
by smackaholic
Moving Sale wrote:
Neely8 wrote: There is no statute of limitations on murder in the state of New York, but the men were prosecuted at the federal level because of the higher likelihood of a conviction for racketeering.
Since they can still be charged at the State level, a la the cops that beat Rodney King, what's the problem?
what's your take on the rodney king case? seems to me that it was a blatant case of double jeopardy. The state went for a home run against the cops, when they should have settled for a double. And they fukking blew it. Then the animals in south central rioted and the feds went after them solely to appease those fukkers. any anyone trying to compare this to the feds stepping in in mississippi in the 60s is an idiot. this wasn't racism, just incompetent prosecuting.

this case may be different as they never even went to trial on the fed level. why the feds are involved is another very good question.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:13 pm
by Moving Sale
The separate sovereigns rule is crap. What's next? The county gets a wack at you before the State does?

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:32 pm
by smackaholic
I'll take that as an agreement that the rodney king cops got shafted hard and dry. Nice to know that we agree on something around here.

BTW, did those cops' lawyers try fighting it in the courts? I woulda fought that fukking thing all the way to the supreme court. Or were all the courts just helping in that BS to keep the natives happyu in south central?

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:43 pm
by Rich Fader
Off topic, if you're looking for a good Italian restaurant in Las Vegas, I highly recommend the place where these guys got arrested...Piero's, Convention Center Drive near Paradise Road. That place is absolute nails. Try the osso buco. You'll thank me later. No arrests the night I went, but I think Jerry Tarkanian was there the same night. At least I think that was the Shark I ran into in the restroom on my way out. How many bald, mournful-looking Armenian dudes are there in Las Vegas? Good times.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:53 pm
by Moving Sale
smackaholic wrote:Or were all the courts just helping in that BS to keep the natives happyu in south central?
No. The SS rule has been around a while.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:28 pm
by smackaholic
yeah, I know it's been around since atleast the 60s where it was rightfully used in places like mississippi. But, the RK beating case was shameful. The horses ass DA went for attempted murder or some such ridiculous shit, when they should have aimed much lower.

Personally. I think any perp has the right to get the fukking shit kicked right out of him if he resists in any manner until the cops have had an opportunity to search him for weapons and cuff him.

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:50 pm
by Moving Sale
They had the opportunity.