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I'm sure all your dead human shields won't mind in the least your little miscalculations at their expense...

http://apnews.myway.com//article/200607 ... CV004.html

Btw, if you give even the slightest fuck about your civilian population you might wanna stop hiding amongst them...In fact, here's an idea. What's say you actually man up and "Jihad!" out in the open against Israel. You know, on an actual field of battle, away from your civilian shields?

Nah. Better to just keep taking potshots at Israel from behind the skirts of your civilians, hoping Israel will just continue to sit there and take it and maybe only retaliate with "their usual measured response".

You have plenty of sacrificial lambs, right? Losing 'em? No biggie. It's all part of your basic P.R. campaign, innit?

Jihad = Malevolent, cycnical cowardice

Filth.

Van wrote:
Btw, if you give even the slightest fuck about your civilian population you might wanna stop hiding amongst them...In fact, here's an idea. What's say you actually man up and "Jihad!" out in the open against Israel. You know, on an actual field of battle, away from your civilian shields?

You have no idea what Hezbollah is, or what they do.

You're Jew controlled media has fucking brainwashed you into believing this is America's fight.

Well, I guess it is now.
Mission Accomplished, Ehud Olmert. Mission fucking Accomplished.

I don't think they have the manpower or weaponry to do that Van, not yet anyway.


I do find it interesting that had we elected John Kerry, the peace that has been so elusive for say ....... 10 centuries at least .... would have been attained. What a dork, that guy.


The story I'm hearing on CNN is that the disturbance in the balance of power the U.S. invasion of Iraq caused is the root cause, but I think that's "Jew" mind control.

You're Jew controlled media has fucking brainwashed you into believing this is America's fight.

At least the Isralies have enough balls to go after the terrorists without listening to a bunch of hang wringing left wing faggots with bleeding pussies braying about rights, and all that other irrelevant shit like our country has to put up with.

Hezbollah wants to fuck with Israel, then they will get what the Jews give them... a good ass kicking....

Jew controlled media ?? Right....... More money made in other aspects of media than news... I am sure the Jews really give a fuck.

Martyred wrote:

Van wrote:
Btw, if you give even the slightest fuck about your civilian population you might wanna stop hiding amongst them...In fact, here's an idea. What's say you actually man up and "Jihad!" out in the open against Israel. You know, on an actual field of battle, away from your civilian shields?

You have no idea what Hezbollah is, or what they do.

You're Jew controlled media has fucking brainwashed you into believing this is America's fight.

Well, I guess it is now.
Mission Accomplished, Ehud Olmert. Mission fucking Accomplished.

Tom In VA wrote:I don't think they have the manpower or weaponry to do that Van, not yet anyway.

Of course they don't have the weaponry. Manpower? They have plenty of manpower.

So, what do they do? They attempt to drum up world support by setting their civilians up for slaughter.

They get no sympathy for their civilian deaths. None. They plan on it and then they make it happen, using it as their sole means of political currency.

The story I'm hearing on CNN is that the disturbance in the balance of power the U.S. invasion of Iraq caused is the root cause, but I think that's "Jew" mind control.

There's only one root cause: most of the Arab world refuses to accept the reality of 1948 and the legal creation of the nation of Israel. It doesn't matter whether they approve of it. All that matters is that they accept it, learn to live with it and move on.

Nope. Can't do it. Can't leave well enough alone. So, over and over, for forty years, they wage their shitty little coward's war against Israel. Every now and then Israel says enough is enough and they strike back harder than the cowards were expecting.

Nothing too complicated here.

"Put up, or shut up." The Arab world refuses to do either one. They instead choose to ankle bite and ankle bite and then solicit the world for sympathy from behind the rubble they cause in their own cities...

MoreTard wrote:You have no idea what Hezbollah is, or what they do.

Read the article. They make it quite clear what they do, and why they do it. They also make their callousness and cowardice quite clear as well.

If they were an actual government instead of a guerilla group they could never get away with having to face their citizenry following these kinds of blunders. Of course they couldn't, because they'd have to admit that they're perfectly fine with rolling the dice where the safety of the Lebanese people are concerned...

If I'm the Lebanese people and if I'm the Lebanese government my very next breath would be spent on getting those imbecilic Hezbollah jackals out of my country. Whatever political favors I had to call in, it'd be done.

1982. 24 years ago. That's the last time Israel truly caused us any grief.

Now look at us...

Fuck Syria and fuck Iran. As a Palestinian and as a Lebanese it'd be absurdly obvious to me by now that Syria and Iran don't give a goat's anal quiescence about me, except as cannon fodder. First things first: Hezbollah is no longer welcome here. Let Syria and Iran harbor them and supply them.

Instead of Lebanon, hey, let Syria and Iran be Israel's problem. Let them take the heat.

End of problem.

Van wrote:They ... drum up world support by setting their civilians up for slaughter.

Naw... I won't hijack this thread.

Bunch of stupid crap.

Dear Hezbollah -

Enough of your dastardly tricks. Please form up in an open field at dawn so we can fight fair.

sin

General Van.

Doc, nah, it's not like I actually expect 'em to do anything of the sort. Of course not. They're stupid, callous and cowardly, not insane.

They just need to realize that as long as they attack from within their harboring country's civilian populations they're never going to gain any sympathy for their cause and they're never going to earn any mercy for their civilian hosts.

Then again, if their civilian hosts do nothing to dislodge them then oh well, all bets are off and they get what they deserve.

Guess they'd better have competent, concerned Lebanese leadership in which they can trust, huh? Or, failing that, maybe the same from Hezbollah?

Doh!

Moving Sale wrote:

Van wrote:They ... drum up world support by setting their civilians up for slaughter.

Naw... I won't hijack this thread.

The very second I see the avatar of that fat kid on the bike flipping us off I know all is right in the world again...

Van wrote:Jihad = Malevolent, cycnical cowardice

Your rage blinds you, Grasshopper. Be the keyboard...feel the proper hand position...asdf...jkl;

Breathe. Wax on, wax off. See the keys in your mind. Life is short, try not to be so cynical.

Van wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:

Van wrote:They ... drum up world support by setting their civilians up for slaughter.

Naw... I won't hijack this thread.

The very second I see the avatar of that fat kid on the bike flipping us off I know all is right in the world again...

I was in Vegas for 10 days.
I was too bizy breaking The Wynn to post.

socal wrote:

Van wrote:Jihad = Malevolent, cycnical cowardice

Your rage blinds you, Grasshopper. Be the keyboard...feel the proper hand position...asdf...jkl;

Breathe. Wax on, wax off. See the keys in your mind. Life is short, try not to be so cynical.

Blinds me? No.

Does it cause me to spell "cynical" with an extra "c"?

Very possibly! :D

TVO, is "The Wynn" a reference to Filthy Rich Steve and one of his ubiquitous pleasure palaces, or, better yet, is it merely code for "UNLV coed hymen"...

Van wrote:TVO, is "The Wynn" a reference to Filthy Rich Steve and one od his pleasure palaces, or, better yet, is it merely code for "UNLV coed hymen"...

How odd. Are we going alphabetical in typographical errors, now Van Tarkanian?

socal wrote:

Van wrote:TVO, is "The Wynn" a reference to Filthy Rich Steve and one od his pleasure palaces, or, better yet, is it merely code for "UNLV coed hymen"...

How odd. Are we going alphabetical in typographical errors, now Van Tarkanian?

Haaa!! As you can see, I already caught it and edited it before you got around to sniping at me for it!

Ahhhhh, sweet vindication is mine!

(I rarely proof read before I post and I don't use any spell checks. Usually I just go by feel. If I can feel that I hit a wrong key I'll immediately go back and fix it. Otherwise, I just submit the post and after it's up on the board I look at it and if I see a typo or some other type of fuck up I then go ahead and fix it. )

Van wrote:Haaa!! As you can see, I already caught it and edited it before you got around to sniping at me for it!

Ahhhhh, sweet vindication is mine!

Don't bother with the patent on that time machine of yours Vannie. 10:26 beats 10:36 every time.

Irony wrote:(I rarely proof read...

And you seem to prefer two words when only one will do.

Van

Nicely said, I couldn't said it better. It is all a game and the Hez know how to play it but Israel decided that this isn't going down like before, they are the ones who is going to blow shit up.

The Lebanese government are so "scared" that civil war will happen. WTF? Either you get control of the terrorist or get bombed back to the stone age. Make your choice already you pansy ass motherfuckers.

Van wrote:They make it quite clear what they do, and why they do it. They also make their callousness and cowardice quite clear as well.

What are you talking about?

They're only poor victims, full of peace and understanding who only want to frolic among the flowers, with balloons and puppies.

Rack the initial post, Van. And Rack 88.

Arch Angel wrote:The Lebanese government are so "scared" that civil war will happen. WTF?

They had 15 years of it. Civil war is a very real possibility if they were to try to clamp down militarily against Hezbollah, with their own military possibly splitting. Israel is taking care of Hezbollah for them. Though they probably will never say it publically, behind closed doors, it's highly likely more than a few members of the Lebanese government aren't a bit sad about what Israel is trying to do.

socal wrote:

Van wrote:Haaa!! As you can see, I already caught it and edited it before you got around to sniping at me for it!

Ahhhhh, sweet vindication is mine!

Don't bother with the patent on that time machine of yours Vannie. 10:26 beats 10:36 every time.

Sorry, sport. You lose on this one. 12:25am vs 12:26am. Look at your quote of mine. It contains the typo. Look at my original quote. It no longer contains the typo, and it also doesn't contain the little edit blurb at the bottom of the post incidicating I edited it after somebody else had already responded to it.

I got it in under the wire, before your prompt, and thus the lack of the edit blurb...

Not quite a typical USC-UCLA level victory, no, but gratifying nonetheless since you were so chuffed with yourself!

Martard wrote:
You have no idea what Hezbollah is, or what they do.

You're Jew controlled media has fucking brainwashed you into believing this is America's fight.

Well, I guess it is now.
Mission Accomplished, Ehud Olmert. Mission fucking Accomplished.

A very small race gets 6 million plus wiped out in WW2. Maybe they are a little more discerning now? Why do you hate Jews?

Van wrote:

socal wrote:

Van wrote:Haaa!! As you can see, I already caught it and edited it before you got around to sniping at me for it!

Ahhhhh, sweet vindication is mine!

Don't bother with the patent on that time machine of yours Vannie. 10:26 beats 10:36 every time.

Sorry, sport. You lose on this one. 12:25am vs 12:26am. Look at your quote of mine. It contains the typo. Look at my original quote. It no longer contains the typo, and it also doesn't contain the little edit blurb at the bottom of the post incidicating I edited it after somebody else had already responded to it.

I got it in under the wire, before your prompt, and thus the lack of the edit blurb...

Not quite a typical USC-UCLA level victory, no, but gratifying nonetheless since you were so chuffed with yourself!

This is why the admins need to adopt some form of video replay.

Van wrote: Nothing too complicated here.

Yet the solution eludes us for, a lot longer than 40 years Van.


What is the solution ? Why are you stuck posting on an internet message board and not given the opportunity to shine and solve this problem ?

Tell me, I live near D.C. I'll print out the solution and run it down to the DoD, State Department, and the Capitol for you. I don't want any credit, just a couple hundred bucks for my trouble.

That should be a drop in the hat for you as you'll be a rich man, in demand, having done something that "smart" people haven't beeen able to do for centuries.

Van wrote: Nothing too complicated here.

Van wrote: They just need to realize that as long as they attack from within their harboring country's civilian populations they're never going to gain any sympathy for their cause and they're never going to earn any mercy for their civilian hosts.

Not required. They will continue to nip at Israel's heels as long as there are idiots in third world toilets who believe the fundie clerics.

Derron wrote:

You're Jew controlled media has fucking brainwashed you into believing this is America's fight.

At least the Isralies have enough balls to go after the terrorists without listening to a bunch of hang wringing left wing faggots with bleeding pussies braying about rights, and all that other irrelevant shit like our country has to put up with.

Hezbollah wants to fuck with Israel, then they will get what the Jews give them... a good ass kicking....

Jew controlled media ?? Right....... More money made in other aspects of media than news... I am sure the Jews really give a fuck.

That was Derron talking about the intricate complexities of the Middle East. And now, on a similarly well-informed note, this person is going to talk about nuclear fission;

Tom In VA wrote:

Van wrote: Nothing too complicated here.

Yet the solution eludes us for, a lot longer than 40 years Van.


What is the solution ? Why are you stuck posting on an internet message board and not given the opportunity to shine and solve this problem ?

Tell me, I live near D.C. I'll print out the solution and run it down to the DoD, State Department, and the Capitol for you. I don't want any credit, just a couple hundred bucks for my trouble.

That should be a drop in the hat for you as you'll be a rich man, in demand, having done something that "smart" people haven't beeen able to do for centuries.

Van wrote: Nothing too complicated here.

I already provided the solution.

Simple. The Arab world needs to finally wake up and recognize the validity, or at least the permanent reality, of 1948. Israel is not going anywhere so as much as it pains them to do so the Arab world needs to make the decision to live with them, once and for all.

Quit provoking Israel. Let them live in peace and Israel will let them live in peace.

Couldn't be simpler.

Van wrote:Quit provoking Israel. Let them live in peace and Israel will let them live in peace.

Couldn't be simpler.

Not as simple as it sounds. Anwar Sadat's bullet riddled body out front shoudl have told you that.

B, that just further underscores the one main problem, which is the simple inability of many Arab factions to accept the reality of 1948.

Once that decision is finally made throughout the Arab world, whether it be the end of a book or at the end of a rifle, there will be relative peace in the region.

There is no other solution. Get your collective heads around the notion of letting Israel have peace in their tiny little sliver of land, and you will have peace.

There is an alternative, however, and it involves copious Arab bloodshed and the expansion of Israel's borders at the further expense of occupied Arab lands.

Them's your two choices, Arab world. Wakey wakey, and all that rot...

Van wrote:B, that just further underscores the one main problem, which is the simple inability of many Arab factions to accept the reality of 1948.

Once that decision is finally made throughout the Arab world, whether it be the end of a book or at the end of a rifle, there will be relative peace in the region.

The problem is, the first person to make that choice public is gonna wind up dead. And we all know it. Ergo, even those who might be inclined to give Israel a break know that they cannot risk doing so publicly. Even the Prime Minister of Iraq felt compelled to break ranks with his US backers over this one. If we can't even keep out puppets in line, how do you expect others to take the lead?

mvscal wrote:Jordan and Egypt have already made peace with Israel, dumbfuck.

Are either of those two states supporting Israel's right to self defense against Hezbollah?

mvscal wrote:For what it's worth, yes. The Arab League does not approve of this Hezbollah action and has said they are on their own.

In any event, who gives a fuck what they say? Is that supposed to have any meaning or significance.

Arab talk means absolutely nothing. Watch what they actually do.

So the answer is NO, they are NOT supporting Israel. But nice try with the dodge.

BSmack wrote:

mvscal wrote:For what it's worth, yes. The Arab League does not approve of this Hezbollah action and has said they are on their own.

In any event, who gives a fuck what they say? Is that supposed to have any meaning or significance.

Arab talk means absolutely nothing. Watch what they actually do.

So the answer is NO, they are NOT supporting Israel. But nice try with the dodge.

i'd think the hebs are just satisfied they are not piling on..........

mvscal wrote:You seem to put a lot of faith in empty public remarks. Why is that?

Jordan and Egypt have made peace with Israel. This is a fact. Whatever current pronouncements they may or may not have made do not change that fact.

Being at peace with Israel is not the same thing as supporting Israel's right to self defense. Make no mistake, the leaders of Jordan and Egypt have been walking on eggshells for years when it comes to appeasing the US and internal public opinion regarding Israel.

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:Being at peace with Israel is not the same thing as supporting Israel's right to self defense.

Being at peace with them does not require them to do so.

It's abundantly clear that you have been caught talking out your ass again and now you are trying to spin and backpedal your way out your latest self-administered ass kicking. Seriously, it's getting pathetic.

What is pathetic is your inability to read. I don't give a fuck if Jordan and Egypt signed their little peace treaties to guarantee billions of dollars worth of US bribes errr "aid". If you do not support the right of Israel to defend itself against agression by Hezbollah, you are by definition not recognizing their right to exist.

So Van, I suppose all we "..... need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's over"

?


RACK Bush then.


By the by, I am only playing devil's advocate. My reaction when I hear this statement about hezbollah being shocked was about the same as yours.

BSmack wrote:If you do not support the right of Israel to defend itself against agression by Hezbollah, you are by definition not recognizing their right to exist.

Horrible example here. France didn't support the US in our "fight on terror" in waging war against Iraq. That does not mean they do not support our right to exist.

Egypt recognizes Israel's right to exist while they may not agree with the manner in which they are defending themselves.

IndyFrisco wrote:Horrible example here. France didn't support the US in our "fight on terror" in waging war against Iraq. That does not mean they do not support our right to exist.

Egypt recognizes Israel's right to exist while they may not agree with the manner in which they are defending themselves.

The difference being that Iraq did not pose a threat to the United States proper. Hezbollah, on the other hand, was and is launching attacks on Israeli cities.

Posing a threat to the US interests = posing a threat to the US

BSmack wrote:

mvscal wrote:Jordan and Egypt have already made peace with Israel, dumbfuck.

Are either of those two states supporting Israel's right to self defense against Hezbollah?

Yes, they are. Implicitly.