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Our first stop is in bogota
To check columbian fields
The natives smile and pass along
A sample of their yield
Sweet jamaican pipe dreams
Golden acapulco nights
Then morocco, and the east,
Fly by morning light

Were on the train to bangkok
Aboard the thailand express
Well hit the stops along the way
We only stop for the best

Wreathed in smoke in lebanon
We burn the midnight oil
The fragrance of afghanistan
Rewards a long days toil pulling into katmandu
Smoke rings fill the air
Perfumed by a nepal night
The express gets you there

mothster wrote:Our first stop is in bogota
To check columbian fields
The natives smile and pass along
A sample of their yield
Sweet jamaican pipe dreams
Golden acapulco nights
Then morocco, and the east,
Fly by morning light

rack that and rack geddy.

Did you RUSH to post this topic???
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Rack Geddy Lee and Rack being 16 again!!

Happy birthday (belated) to Geddy.

This thing's been up 13 hrs and the haytas haven't chimed in yet?

smackaholic wrote:This thing's been up 13 hrs and the haytas haven't chimed in yet?

It just means we're one day closer to Rush never recording another album again.

BSmack wrote:

smackaholic wrote:This thing's been up 13 hrs and the haytas haven't chimed in yet?

It just means we're one day closer to Rush never recording another album again.

Actually, you're one day closer to them recording one more album.

Call me crazy but posting B-Day wishes to a guy who almost certainly doesn't read this board smacks a little too much of "Tiger Beat"...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

BSmack wrote:

smackaholic wrote:This thing's been up 13 hrs and the haytas haven't chimed in yet?

It just means we're one day closer to Rush never recording another album again.

Actually, you're one day closer to them recording one more album.

There's always somebody who will see the negative side of the story. Me, I try to stay an optomist.

Van wrote:Call me crazy but posting B-Day wishes to a guy who almost certainly doesn't read this board smacks a little too much of "Tiger Beat"...

Ronald Reagan used to get birthday wishes from the predecessor boards too. And at least Geddy is still sharp enough that he could read this board, if he chose to do so.

And in any event, I think Geddy's a little past the Tiger Beat stage, if'n he ever was Tiger Beat material in the first place, that is.

Don't be a hayta, Van. :wink:

Van wrote:Call me crazy but posting B-Day wishes to a guy who almost certainly doesn't read this board smacks a little too much of "Tiger Beat"...

Maybe you should IM him a link.

Dinsdale wrote:

Van wrote:Call me crazy but posting B-Day wishes to a guy who almost certainly doesn't read this board smacks a little too much of "Tiger Beat"...

Maybe you should IM him a link.

In pentatonic tab?

Would he be equally comfortable with it that way?

Actually, Geddy wrote what is one of two rock songs I can think of that employed a 7/4 signature.

This will be forever rackable, since it gives "I wanna play Rush" novice players absolute fits.

what song is that? and what exactly is 7/4 time?

smackaholic wrote:what song is that? and what exactly is 7/4 time?

1. Don't know -- I'll have to defer to Dins for that.

2. Seven beats to a measure, one beat per quarter note.

Sin,

5 years of piano lessons

Never saw 7/4 time in actuality, though . . .

It really must suck for newbies be they bass, guitar or drum newbies to want to play rush stuff. better to stick wwith the beatles for a few years.

smackaholic wrote:what song is that? and what exactly is 7/4 time?

What is Natural Science?

What? We're not on Jeopardy!

smackaholic wrote:what song is that? and what exactly is 7/4 time?

It's actually not the whole song, but most of the instrumental parts. The song is Tom Sawyer.

And to try and use layman's terms(and maybe Van or Drummer can explain it better) -- most Western Music(that's what every song you've ever heard on the radio is...as opposed to Eastern or African music, which are whole different animals), is "in 4." What this means, is each measure has 4 beats, which kinda sorta repeat every 4 beats, which makes a "measure."

This is 4/4 time. Pretty much all western music is based upon "something/4" time signatures. Rock and pop music is almost always in 4 (4/4). In this system of denoting time signatures, it's always based on the number of quarter-notes(beats) in a measure.

In the instrumental passages of Tom Sawyer, they use a 7/4 signature. When a song/passage goes in and out of 7, it's often written as 3/4 measures followed by 4/4 measures...the result is still 7.


But if you listen to Tom Sawyer where the keyboard does that "wee-OOO-weeOOO-wee-OOO: thing, if you tap your foot along and count, the rhythyms will repeat themselves every 7 beats.


This is "playing in 7."


Rock is just about always 4/4, with an occasional fast-6/8 mixed in(there's two types of 6/8...but we'll save that for another day).

Very, very few rock musicians mess with 7. The only other song that comes quickly to mind is Money by Floyd, except the lyrical verses are in 7, and the instrumentals go back to 4. I'm sure there must have been other songs, but those are the two I can think of right now.

But breaking away from formulaic rock is always cool.

I can only imagine some of the time signatures used in some of Holdsworth's pieces...

Actually, no I can't. Maybe Drummer could, but I sure can't.

Van wrote:I can only imagine some of the time signatures used in some of Holdsworth's pieces...

Actually, no I can't. Maybe Drummer could, but I sure can't.

So, what you're saying is you have no imagination.

Sinc,

Dins

But if you listen to Tom Sawyer where the keyboard does that "wee-OOO-weeOOO-wee-OOO: thing, if you tap your foot along and count, the rhythyms will repeat themselves every 7 beats.


accordingly i read somewhere, i think in a tour book, that lee's jamming bassline in sawyer was derived from soundchecks.........

BSmack wrote:

smackaholic wrote:This thing's been up 13 hrs and the haytas haven't chimed in yet?

It just means we're one day closer to Rush never recording another album again.

Dinsdale wrote:Actually, Geddy wrote what is one of two rock songs I can think of that employed a 7/4 signature.

This will be forever rackable, since it gives "I wanna play Rush" novice players absolute fits.

can someone tell me what 'la villa strangiato' is played in------particularly the gangster of boats and monsters movements (or whatever the lifeson solos are)

Just curious, why all the hatred of Rush in here?

Poison, Motley Crue, Milli Vanilli -- I could understand. Hell, even Aerosmith, given that they started to suck like no other right around the time they collaborated with Run-DMC on "Walk This Way." But Rush?

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Just curious, why all the hatred of Rush in here?

Poison, Motley Crue, Milli Vanilli -- I could understand. Hell, even Aerosmith, given that they started to suck like no other right around the time they collaborated with Run-DMC on "Walk This Way." But Rush?

trolling, canadian, lee's voice.......

but real musicians get it and always will

Good call moth

I jammed to "Distant Early Warning" today on the way home from work. Good times.

patsy stone wrote:I jammed to "Distant Early Warning" today on the way home from work. Good times.

Nice choice. Did you listen to Afterimage as well? That, and Between The Wheels are the 2 best songs on Grace Under Pressure.

The Enemy Within and Kid Gloves are also great.

Between the Wheels is by far the best live Rush song I've ever seen/heard.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:The Enemy Within and Kid Gloves are also great.

Between the Wheels is by far the best live Rush song I've ever seen/heard.

rack patsy, rack m_go, and rack mucho, those are all good hits. and it's been suggested before, but get a boot from the GUP tour, it's rush in it's prime.

mothster wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Just curious, why all the hatred of Rush in here?

Poison, Motley Crue, Milli Vanilli -- I could understand. Hell, even Aerosmith, given that they started to suck like no other right around the time they collaborated with Run-DMC on "Walk This Way." But Rush?

trolling, canadian, lee's voice.......

but real musicians get it and always will

Never bothered me, although in fairness, where I live might just as well be Canada in several respects.

And rack Patsy for being the rare female to get Rush.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Just curious, why all the hatred of Rush in here?

Poison, Motley Crue, Milli Vanilli -- I could understand. Hell, even Aerosmith, given that they started to suck like no other right around the time they collaborated with Run-DMC on "Walk This Way." But Rush?

Mediocre to downright bands rarely garner anything close to hatred. Folks just don't care enough to hate them. Rush on the other hand is an undeniably talented group. Not even a haytah could tell you that geddl lee isn't one of the best bass players on the planet (we'll skip the singer part :) ) . But, Rush has a distinct sound which most folks either love or hate for some reason. I can't think of any other group that has such a large following along with large groups of haytahs. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Zepplin fan, but, can't say I've ever met a rock fan that actively disliked them.

Can anybody think of a notable rock group that has such a polarizing effect as Rush?

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Just curious, why all the hatred of Rush in here?

Poison, Motley Crue, Milli Vanilli -- I could understand. Hell, even Aerosmith, given that they started to suck like no other right around the time they collaborated with Run-DMC on "Walk This Way." But Rush?

Mediocre to downright shitty bands rarely garner anything close to hatred. Folks just don't care enough to hate them. Rush on the other hand is an undeniably talented group. Not even a haytah could tell you that geddl lee isn't one of the best bass players on the planet (we'll skip the singer part :) ) . But, Rush has a distinct sound which most folks either love or hate for some reason. I can't think of any other group that has such a large following along with large groups of haytahs. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Zepplin fan, but, can't say I've ever met a rock fan that actively disliked them.

Can anybody think of a notable rock group that has such a polarizing effect as Rush?

MuchoBulls wrote:

patsy stone wrote:I jammed to "Distant Early Warning" today on the way home from work. Good times.

Nice choice. Did you listen to Afterimage as well? That, and Between The Wheels are the 2 best songs on Grace Under Pressure.

I am going to be honest with you and say that I'm not an "I know every song on every Rush album ever" kinda fan. I just like a PLETHORA of their songs. Mostly the older stuff... "The Trees," "Time Stand Still," "Distant Early Warning," "Force Ten," "Subdivisions," "Closer To The Heart," and various others! I know I mentioned this before, but saw them in 10th grade with my MOM because no one would go with me. Great show!

patsy stone wrote:I know I mentioned this before, but saw them in 10th grade with my MOM because no one would go with me.

Obviously a MILF.

smackaholic wrote:Not even a haytah could tell you that geddl lee isn't one of the best bass players on the planet (we'll skip the singer part :) ) .

Not to mention Neil Peart is, at least arguably, the standard by which rock drummers are measured. And I get his lyrics too, although I realize that some don't.

But, Rush has a distinct sound which most folks either love or hate for some reason. I can't think of any other group that has such a large following along with large groups of haytahs. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Zepplin fan, but, can't say I've ever met a rock fan that actively disliked them.

Can anybody think of a notable rock group that has such a polarizing effect as Rush?

I wouldn't call this hating on Led Zeppelin, but I hate the amount of airplay they get on the local rock stations. But more than anything, that's me hating on the lack of imagination and/or depth of music knowledge that the program directors of those stations have, much moreso than me hating on Zep.

led zepp was a rock act anomaly.....

they could swing the hammer down without scaring everyone to death like sabbath and then do acoustic numbers almost like folk music plus ripping off american bluesman as naseum without problem

plus they had a bulley no-nonsense manager in peter grant which fit like a glove

patsy stone wrote:[Mostly the older stuff... "Time Stand Still," "Distant Early Warning," "Subdivisions,"!

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!


Shut up. Just shut the fuck up.

I'm an old man now. Before that, as a boy, I used to look forward to each new Rush album.

And then Grace Under Pressure came along. The era of the sellout/testosterone deminishing hit.

If you like GUP, then more power to you. But DO NOT refer to this as "old stuff" -- it was very clearly(to anybody who was familiar with the band at the time) the point at which "old stuff" became the "new stuff." This is a VERY CLEAR turning point for Rush, and no amout of you rewriting history will ever change that.

smackaholic wrote:Can anybody think of a notable rock group that has such a polarizing effect as Rush?

Grateful Dead.

The collective idiocy and lack of hygiene shown by their obsessed fans has unfortunately obscured some pretty damned fine music, IMNSHO. Hell, even I made a point of "hating" them for years just because the Deadheads in my fraternity were so damned obnoxious.

Dinsdale wrote:

patsy stone wrote:[Mostly the older stuff... "Time Stand Still," "Distant Early Warning," "Subdivisions,"!

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!


Shut up. Just shut the fuck up.

I'm an old man now. Before that, as a boy, I used to look forward to each new Rush album.

And then Grace Under Pressure came along. The era of the sellout/testosterone deminishing hit.

If you like GUP, then more power to you. But DO NOT refer to this as "old stuff" -- it was very clearly(to anybody who was familiar with the band at the time) the point at which "old stuff" became the "new stuff." This is a VERY CLEAR turning point for Rush, and no amout of you rewriting history will ever change that.

They were OLDER to me, so YOU shut up!