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•Worst example of athletic department greed: Ohio State, for yanking free tickets it used to give to Boy Scouts who usher at games because demand for tickets was so high.

• Best games this week: Oregon State at Boise State on Thursday, plus Saturday blockbusters Oregon at Fresno State, Penn State at Notre Dame, Nebraska at USC and Ohio State at Texas.

RadioFan wrote:From that same site:

• Best games this week: Oregon State at Boise State on Thursday, plus Saturday blockbusters Oregon at Fresno State, Penn State at Notre Dame, Nebraska at USC and Ohio State at Texas.

Neb @ USC isn't this week, it's Sept. 16.

Sky wrote:The "typo" or lack of research noted in the rest of the article just adds to the lack of credibility.

m2 wrote:Nothing else to see here.

m2 wrote:

Nothing else to see here.

Sky wrote:Not that you really deserve a response but here is my read on this one line, no source comment.

I have been attending games since 1990 and not once have I seen a boyscout ushering at a game. Realistically, I don't see any team letting a 7 year old attempt to prevent some drunk college kid from moving down to the prime seats. The ushers have always been adults.

The "typo" or lack of research noted in the rest of the article just adds to the lack of credibility.

Boy Scouts shut out of game-day gig, tickets
Sunday, September 03, 2006
Barbara Carmen
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

For as long as there’s been an Ohio Stadium, there have been Boy Scouts prepared to help people find their seats during games.

In exchange, the Scouts got free tickets for seats of their own.

The Scouts and their parents weren’t prepared for the notice about a week ago telling them the Scouts’ services were no longer needed and they wouldn’t be getting free tickets.

The university said the tickets were needed for students.

"We have enough ushers to take care of our needs," Associate Athletics Director Steve Snapp said, referring to the paid ushers identifiable by their red coats.

"Our students are our first priority. This year we had an increase in applications; about 30,000 wanted tickets. Usually we have 22,000 to 25,000 apply."

Perhaps as a parting gift, the university gave the 20 or so boys who had signed up to work yesterday’s game tickets so they could watch without having to work, said Ronald S. Green, executive director of the Simon Kenton Council.

He said he appreciated Ohio State’s relationship with Scouting in the past. However, he said, he would ask the university to reconsider its decision.

"For many boys this was their only opportunity to see a game," Green said. It also was their first exposure to Ohio State, and many scouts through the years ended up attending the university, he said.

"We don’t take up much room," he said, noting that the Scouts now stand during the entire game.

Green said the Scouts, who came from throughout Ohio, were given seats before last year. They would work the beginning of the game and then sit and watch it. Up to 50 worked big games such as Michigan.

Last year, Green, who was new to the council, required Scouts to work the entire game with ushers. That was the right thing to do because the Scouts were getting in for free, he said.

Earlier this year, the university said the Scouts would again be allowed to help usher, Green said. Only about 10 days ago did the university notify the council that it was canceling the program, he said.

The decision ends an 84-year tradition, said John and Nancy Braughton, who have been Scouting volunteers for 40 years. Their sons were Scouts and ushered at the stadium.

The Scout-ushers, ages 11 and up, made sure they had an "A" uniform: an official shirt, long pants, twill cap, belt, socks and brown or black shoes, Mrs. Braughton said. They were told to look sharp and behave like gentlemen.

Having the Scouts in the stands helped attract more boys to scouting, Mr. Braughton said.

The increased interest in tickets prompted the university to refund the ticket purchases of 1,600 faculty and OSU workers. They were regular ticket buyers, but because of the increased demand they fell short in a point system used to determine who was eligible.

The grip on free tickets has affected another group, those who hawk programs before every game.

The sellers used to get a ticket for a seat to watch the game after they sold programs. Now, the group of 100 will be given 25 tickets. A lottery will decide who gets them for each game.

"It’s nothing but greed, is all it is," said one man who’s worked selling programs for 30 years. He didn’t want his name used because he wants to keep the job and the chance to watch a game.

"They used to let us sell the programs, then get a wristband to go into the game. You got a seat in a designated area. Now, they’ve sold the whole south end zone, except for where the band sits."

He said he usually works more than six hours on game day for about $50 to $100 in commission. The ticket, no matter how far from the field, was his compensation.

"I’d even stand. I can’t believe they can’t find 100 standing-room tickets for these program sellers who’ve been coming down here for years."

Sky wrote:Not that you really deserve a response but here is my read on this one line, no source comment.

I have been attending games since 1990 and not once have I seen a boyscout ushering at a game. Realistically, I don't see any team letting a 7 year old attempt to prevent some drunk college kid from moving down to the prime seats. The ushers have always been adults.

The "typo" or lack of research noted in the rest of the article just adds to the lack of credibility.

RadioFan wrote:

Sky wrote:The "typo" or lack of research noted in the rest of the article just adds to the lack of credibility.

Exactly.


Oh wait ... what's this? A blog site being wrong about something? Simply shocking.

Jimmy Medalions wrote:

m2 wrote:Nothing else to see here.

I could have told you that when I saw the author of this thread.

GreginPG wrote:

m2 wrote:

Nothing else to see here.

Else?

There was nothing to see here, period!

The increased interest in tickets prompted the university to refund the ticket purchases of 1,600 faculty and OSU workers. They were regular ticket buyers, but because of the increased demand they fell short in a point system used to determine who was eligible.

Mikey wrote:Boy Scouts are 12 to 18.

Just wanted to point that out.
You may now continue your display of ignorance.

Sky wrote: I don't have a lot of sympathy. It is unfortunate but at least they had their shot.

The decision ends an 84-year tradition, said John and Nancy Braughton, who have been Scouting volunteers for 40 years. Their sons were Scouts and ushered at the stadium.

"We don’t take up much room," he said, noting that the Scouts now stand during the entire game.

"It’s nothing but greed, is all it is," said one man who’s worked selling programs for 30 years. He didn’t want his name used because he wants to keep the job and the chance to watch a game.

"I’d even stand. I can’t believe they can’t find 100 standing-room tickets for these program sellers who’ve been coming down here for years."

Sky wrote:Standing room only in Ohio Stadium is severely limited. It is a historical building that can only be slightly modified...

Sky wrote:That guy/criminal only did one thing wrong while playing FB for tOSU and then he was booted. Everything else was after he was gone.

Also, I didn't graduate from tOSU.

Sky wrote:And oh yeah, thanks again for responding to my comments. Typical.

Sky wrote:Dude, you really are such a fag....Nixon smack in a boy scouts thread is not going to garner any more FB scholarships (yeah right).

m2 wrote:

•Worst example of athletic department greed: Ohio State, for yanking free tickets it used to give to Boy Scouts who usher at games because demand for tickets was so high.

I sure as hell hope this is wrong.

Sky wrote:

m2 wrote:

•Worst example of athletic department greed: Ohio State, for yanking free tickets it used to give to Boy Scouts who usher at games because demand for tickets was so high.

I sure as hell hope this is wrong.

Hey fucko, did you write this or was this the guy who got a football scholarship.

Sky wrote:Figures, another snappy response from m2

Sky wrote:You comparing me to Meds is a compliment, so thanks.

mTool wrote:

•Worst example of athletic department greed: Ohio State, for yanking free tickets it used to give to Boy Scouts who usher at games because demand for tickets was so high.

I sure as hell hope this is wrong.

L45B wrote:

mTool wrote:

•Worst example of athletic department greed: Ohio State, for yanking free tickets it used to give to Boy Scouts who usher at games because demand for tickets was so high.

I sure as hell hope this is wrong.

L45B wrote:Who gives a fuck? My alumni tickets to Bowling Green just got snagged by the AD because the game was overssold.

Boy Scouts will return to ’Shoe
OSU officials to decide on job for group

Wednesday, September 06, 2006
Matthew Marx
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Boy Scouts can return to Ohio Stadium during the next home football game, but they won’t usher, an OSU official said last night.

"We’re going to let them back in," Associate Athletics Director Steve Snapp said. "We’re not sure what their functioning is going to be. … They are certainly back for this next game and I think for the foreseeable future."

Other groups might also get free passes into the ’Shoe during Buckeye football games, Snapp said, but exactly what they’ll be doing hasn’t yet been decided.

"We need to ensure their safety first and foremost," Snapp said.

University officials will meet with local Scout leaders this week to help determine an appropriate job for the group, which consists of boys ages 11 or older.

Snapp expects to know what that will be by the next home game, Sept. 16 against the University of Cincinnati. The Buckeyes play in Texas on Saturday.

For years, Scouts have been helping paid ushers, the socalled Red Coats, at the stadium in exchange for free tickets. Last year, the Scouts didn’t get seats but were permitted to watch the game while ushering.

A decision last month ended that tradition when the Scouts were informed they wouldn’t be needed for ushering. Yesterday’s announcement reverses that, to some degree.

"We have rethought it, and I think we have come up with a pretty good solution," Snapp said.

Ronald S. Green, executive director of the Simon Kenton Council for the Boy Scouts, said last night that he’ll discuss safe, productive and appropriate tasks for the Scouts with the university. He doesn’t want to see them picking up trash, he said.

"I have no idea what the scope of jobs will be," Green said.

Scout ushering worked well and was well-received by fans, Green said.

"It was expected and part of the lesson we wanted to teach. We wanted to earn our way," he said. "Many ushers started as Scouts."