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So. Sooner Fans. Sig bet?
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:28 pm
by JayDuck
Any takers?
You guys confident about your trip to Autzen, on Saturday?
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:42 pm
by OUMO
In.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:45 pm
by RadioFan
How long for the sig bet?
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:53 pm
by OUMO
RadioFan wrote:How long for the sig bet?
Who cares, we are going to win. :wink:
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:00 pm
by JayDuck
Believe the Heupel wrote:Not super confident, but sure, I'll do it.
Doesn't look like the Duck DL can get off blocks, but I'm not real sure our OL can block, so that's a wash.
Neither team can stop the run for shit right now.
We're getting better QB play than we expected going in. Dixon didn't really impress me against Fresno, but I didn't watch a whole heck of a lot of the game.
We had some DL injuries in fall camp so we are a little young there. We actually did very well early, but struggled in the 2nd half. Some of that was the scheme (which I wasn't a fan of). We were ahead, or had the ball, the whole way. FSU never had the ball and a chance to take the lead, so we kind of were playing back and giving them the middle too much for my liking, giving them long drives. I didn't like that since thats exactly what Fresno wanted to do as well. Peterson should have some success running the ball against us, for sure.
As for QB play, I don't know what you saw that you didn't like about Dixon, but he's been nothing but impressive so far. I'm definitely not concerned there in the least and I think you'll be suprised when its you guys that he's playing against. He's been compleing over 60% of his passes with no interceptions, or fumbles and getting key 1st downs on the ground when he needs to.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:30 pm
by orcinus
In for a sig/avatar combo.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:54 pm
by quacker backer
in.....
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:45 pm
by JayDuck
RadioFan wrote:How long for the sig bet?
Standard, in-season, Sig-bet length. Until your team wins a game to erase the stench of the sig-bet shame.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:59 pm
by orcinus
So, we have the following thus far. Loser leaves sig and avatar up until their team wins another game.
OU - BtH, OUMO, RadioFan, orcinus, skully, WarStoops, DiT
Oregon - JayDuck, QuackerBacker, Dins
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:03 pm
by the_ouskull
I'm in. I'll ride it out until OU / Tejas.
the_ouskull
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:46 pm
by RadioFan
JayDuck wrote:Standard, in-season, Sig-bet length. Until your team wins a game to erase the stench of the sig-bet shame.
OK, In. Just wanted to make sure I will be able to punger RJ with the annual Chiefs-Raiders sig bet in the NFL forum later this year. :wink:
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:49 pm
by War Stoops
In.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:34 pm
by DiT
in
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:42 pm
by The Seer
Save your sigs...
Oregon - 33
Okie - 21
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:51 am
by the_ouskull
I'm going to pick OU by between 5-10. I don't know how that will play out on the score though. Probably something like 24-17.
the_ouskull
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:09 am
by Dinsdale
I think BtH kinda scratched the surface. The D-Line...I won't say "hasn't done much," but they've been inconsistant(points Jay adressed). I do think that if the D-Line doesn't show up in a big way, it could be a long day. But on the other side of the coin, I've been quite inpressed with both the enthusiasm and nuts-to-the-wall speed that the entire D has been playing with. Maybe short on experience, but long on athleticism and heart, which can make up for some holes.
I have a hunch Peterson is going to have about 3,458 yards rushing(which would be nothing new against U of O)....and he'll be the second best RB on the field that day...huge claim, I know...but if OU doesn't bring every ounce of fire that they have on the d-line/box, I don't quite think you guys fully realize what's about to happen to you. You haven't seen big time power football, if you don't control the trenches when Oregon has the ball. And don't forget that returning 5 guys on the O-Line never sucks.
I'll be pretty happy to not see Dusty Dvoracek again, frankly. Hell, that dude scared me, just watching him on TV. Haven't seen enough of OU yet to know how bad his loss hurts them(saturdays have been a busy time for me, last couple of weeks, although I did manage to catch both Oregon games so far...only football I've watched, pretty much).
Power up front, major speed in the back. S'what it's all about, baby!
In case you couldn't tell, I'm pretty stoked. This Ducks squad is already looking better than I'd hoped for before the season started. There was potential for a major swiss-cheese defense, and it's looking like that's not the case.
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:46 am
by the_ouskull
I'll take Stewart having a great day and you guys losing by 10 over AD having a great day and it being a close game.
That being said, do you REALLY think that he's a better tailback than Peterson?
the_ouskull
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:21 am
by Dinsdale
the_ouskull wrote:That being said, do you REALLY think that he's a better tailback than Peterson?
All in all, I've actually seen more of Peterson than I have of Stewart. Last couple of years or so, I've pretty much figured Yo Adrian was all that and a bag of chips, and if he was healthy for all of last season, Reggie Bush would have been sharing the spotlight.
But that said, to answer the original question, based strictly upon what I've seen...
Yes. Yes I do.
BUT... I'm not delusional...really. Johnny Franchise has a looong way to go before any rational person can draw any meaningful comparisons to the borderline-storied career of Mr. Peterson. A head-to-head matchup is a good start, though.
Certainly not meant as any sort of dis on Adrian Peterson, of whom I'm a bigbigbig fan, and I'm happy he'll be gracing the Ducks' house with his presence.
I only hope Stewart's ankle is up for the game. And it's not like the dude is completely without cred -- he was injured last year, and still led the nation in kick returns. The ankle held him to one carry for 3 yards last game...resulting in a TD.
Is it Saturday yet?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:31 am
by orcinus
Dinsdale wrote:Is it Saturday yet?
Patience, young Dins.
Your ass-kicking will come soon enough ... no need to rush it.
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:35 am
by Dinsdale
orcinus wrote:no need to rush it.
That was a pun, right?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:37 am
by orcinus
13,500 yds
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:42 am
by Dinsdale
Your avatar offends me.
For this, I'm going to have the Ducks beat the Laters by one-hundred-and-eleventeen points.
Take that to the bank.
BTW-Shouldn't you guys just give your QBs $10K a month like the Duc.........ERRRRR shame about your quarterback.
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:45 am
by orcinus
They should get at least that to wear those Tron unis.
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:49 pm
by the_ouskull
A head-to-head matchup between the two tailbacks isn't necessarily a measure of who is better either... It could just mean "who had the better run D." Ya know?
Don't think that, if your boy comes out and runs wild, that AD won't see it as a challenge though. Also, don't think that if your boy comes out looking hobbled, that our sharks won't smell that shit in the water.
the_ouskull
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:20 pm
by Dinsdale
the_ouskull wrote:A head-to-head matchup between the two tailbacks isn't necessarily a measure of who is better either... It could just mean "who had the better run D." Ya know?
Well...duh. It could also mean the U of O returned 5 O-Linemen...ya'think?
But I'll thank you not to bust up my fantasy world just yet.
Again, I haven't seen much of OU this season, but reading this and other threads, it sounds like Soonerfan is suspicious of the run D, and are going up against a monster running game. Duckfan is also suspicious of their run D, and are facing a team that can run for miles.
From this, we can conclude that it's PARTYTIME!!!!!
Don't think that, if your boy comes out and runs wild, that AD won't see it as a challenge though.
One of many reasons I think AD pretty much rules. Obviously, there's a new "My God, he's the best
EVAR" guy every year or two....but really -- I don't think you guys understand what's about to hit you(assuming healthy legs, which has already been a problem in his young career).
Also, don't think that if your boy comes out looking hobbled, that our sharks won't smell that shit in the water.
And see....therein lies your problem. Jerimiah Johnson, the second-stringer, is pretty much a top-flight back who would start for about 80%+ of the teams out there. First coupla games, he's straight embarresed some fools with some timely stiffarms.
Is it Saturday yet?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:03 pm
by M2
Sooners and Ducks Going at Each Other Big Time (Fark war!)
Sooner Board
Duck Board
Classic Stuff!!!
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:41 am
by the_ouskull
Oregon may have returned 5 of 5 starting offensive linemen and looked great running the ball against Fresno State, but Fresno State's D Line will NEVER be confused with OU's. Fresno's line, by the way, that, with the exception of the 6/4, 320 Louis Leonard, averages 257 pounds.
I guess what I'm getting at is what you're getting at... the bottom line:
Is Saturday here yet?
But, since it's not, I just wanted to remind you that, outside of Oregon, AD is still a big name. If your brother, Stewart, is going to become a big name, he'll have to do it against an OU.
Oh, and
x2. Soon to be 3. :D
the_ouskull
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:20 pm
by Vito Corleone
the_ouskull wrote:I'm in. I'll ride it out until OU / Tejas. 2010
the_ouskull
FIFY
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:05 pm
by Dinsdale
the_ouskull wrote:x2. Soon to be 3.
If'n I'm not mistaken, OU is 5-0 all-time.
Enjoy that for 4 more days.'
I'm suprised to see the opening Vegas line at Oregon -4.5 . Then again, if OU was a road favorite, the bets probably wouldn't be split near 50/50...not by smart folk, anyway.
The only question about my
younger brother Jonathan Stewart is his ankle. AGAIN, no dis on Peterson, who IMO is the reigning King of CFB right now...a title he should enjoy while he has it...for about 4 more days. What's funny is, you guys think I'm homering and running smack and whatnot...I'm not.
But...you'll see.
Oh, and btw - U of O didn't look "great" running the ball against Fresno by any stretch of the imagination. "Good"...sure. "Great"...not really. 157 yards rushing is hardly "great." Hell, Franchise might have that by himself against OU...
in the first half.
Fucking A'......is it Saturday yet? I'm actually still working on some tix...we'll see how that goes.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:54 pm
by M2
Dinsdale wrote:
The only question about my younger brother Jonathan Stewart is his ankle. AGAIN, no dis on Peterson, who IMO is the reigning King of CFB right now...a title he should enjoy while he has it...for about 4 more days. What's funny is, you guys think I'm homering and running smack and whatnot...I'm not.
But...you'll see.
Oh, and btw - U of O didn't look "great" running the ball against Fresno by any stretch of the imagination. "Good"...sure. "Great"...not really. 157 yards rushing is hardly "great." Hell, Franchise might have that by himself against OU...in the first half.
Fucking A'......is it Saturday yet? I'm actually still working on some tix...we'll see how that goes.
Stewart isn't even the best running back in the Pac 10, but you already knew that.
Stewart should have more yards than AP, due to the fact that AP has a tough time running against Pac 10 teams. Just take a look at AP's last 4 or 5 games against Pac 10 teams.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:23 pm
by Dinsdale
m2 wrote:Just take a look at AP's last 4 or 5 games against Pac 10 teams.
Like when he had most of his 84 yards in the second half, and pretty much ran all over Oregon in the Holiday Bowl?
And Johnny Franchise is
by far the best RB in the PAC10.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:49 pm
by M2
Dinsdale wrote:
And Johnny Franchise is by far the best RB in the PAC10.
Oh, how soon they all forget. Lets look at a head to head comparison, shall we?
Lynch vs. Stewart
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Marshawn Lynch 25 189 7.6 2 52
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Jonathan Stewart 5 16 3.2 0 8
Well, there ya have it.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:52 pm
by the_ouskull
Hell, Franchise might have that by himself against OU...in the first half.
What's funny is, you guys think I'm homering and running smack and whatnot...I'm not.
Uh...
No, it's official. I'm speechless.
the_ouskull
Post Script --
Oh, and btw - U of O didn't look "great" running the ball against Fresno by any stretch of the imagination. "Good"...sure. "Great"...not really. 157 yards rushing is hardly "great."
Yeah, I know... and OU's run defense isn't known for being "that great" either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm Read it. Love it. Learn it.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:00 pm
by Dinsdale
the_ouskull wrote:No, it's official. I'm speechless.
Save it for Saturday afternoon, when your speechlessness will be caused by your jaw being rendered slack, hanging to the floor, in complete disbelief that your team just got run the fuck over.
The Quack Quack Ground Attack is back...oh, how it's back. Maurice and Onterrio ERRRRRRRR....Johnathan and Jeremiah gonna do some damage. Your only hope at this point is that Herman Ho Ching magically appears out of the stands and causes (another) Duck fumble or 14.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:05 pm
by SunCoastSooner
The last bastion for Kal fan... ride the rest of the conference for respectability.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:23 pm
by Dinsdale
SunCoastSooner wrote:The last bastion for Kal fan... ride the rest of the conference for respectability.
Or, compare an injured freshman backup, who might as well have redshirted(save for that "led the nation in kick returns while injured all year" part), against a starting tailback.
Kalfan is going to be PISSED when they lose to 1AA Portland State at home this weekend(PSU seems to be getting some of their old glory back, which has pretty much been missing since they joined the Big Sky, and got away from the Run-and-Shoot).
Not nearly as pissed as Soonerfan is going to be after they take a whoopin, but therein lies the difference -- U&L football fan will still respect Soonerfan in the morning.
Earlier, I stated OU is 5-0 all time against U of O. The correct figure is 6-0. Sorry.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:19 pm
by the_ouskull
Dins, how's about you and I go with our own sig bet, since you're convinced that Oregon is going to run for 3000 yards and eleventybillion touchdowns and all?
If Oregon runs for 200 total yards and / or EITHER of your lovechild backs go for 150, then, win or lose, I'll get a sig from you. If they do that, and win, then I get a sig and an avatar.
If they don't, YOU do. They both stay up until the end of September...
You and I both know that Oregon is going to run for fivehundredgazillion miles against OU, but, I'm willing to "not be a homer," and make a bet like this anyway.
Are you?
the_ouskull
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:39 pm
by Dinsdale
the_ouskull wrote:You and I both know that Oregon is going to run for fivehundredgazillion miles against OU, but, I'm willing to "not be a homer," and make a bet like this anyway.
Are you?
Well, considering I found an extra gear on my keyboard over the deal, I don't really see where I have much choice, do I?
For clarity, what's the result if neither back goes 150(I'm obviously putting a lot of blind faith in Stewart's ankle here), but the Ducks win? I'm pretty flexible on the deal.
And by the way...is it Saturday yet?
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:47 pm
by Dinsdale
Btw also -- it will probably be dry weather for the game. Later in the year, I'd say this would help out OU, but this time of year, probably doesn't favor either squad...you don't want any part of a road game in Autzen in the soggy late-season.
An ever-so-slightly-related side note -- I seem to remember reading an article a few years ago, in which it said that despite what logic might dictate, that stormy weather at the Oregon schools actually favors the better passing team, statistically(although it shouldn't be a factor in saturday's game, since it's not the Wet Season yet...if there's any rain, it should be light...weathermen seem to be in disagreement about saturdays weather, which is pretty much a day in the life in the U&L). Ponderous, but I guess it comes down to the short, West Coast Offense passing game being a more devastating attack than a running game on questionable traction. I was pretty suprised to read that...not that it really has any relavence on the topic at hand, but something just reminded me of it.
Is it saturday yet?
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:13 pm
by the_ouskull
If your running game is successful, it will be because you came out and passed, successfully, early.
If neither back goes over 150, but the Ducks win, then I get a sig, but no Avatar.
The rushing bet is for an avatar. The game is for the sig. Savvy?
the_ouskull