T1B

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:01 pm**

Hmmmm.

We've got elections coming up and suddenly the gas prices are falling.

A mere coincidence?

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:02 pm**

Don’t blame Bush. He is NOT an oilman.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:04 pm**

It's always something w/ the Left. Nothing is ever good enough.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:06 pm**

What do you want to bet that after the elections are over, the boot goes right back on our collective necks in terms of energy prices.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:08 pm**

Cicero wrote:It's always something w/ the Left. Nothing is ever good enough.

Displeasure with high gas prices is a concept of the "Left"?

Well, kiss my ass and call me a Lefty!

Sissy...does it hurt to be this fucking stupid?

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:18 pm**

mvscal wrote: We also have a mild hurricance season that has done no damage to any refining infrastructure in the Gulf of Mexico.

A mere coincidence?

I blame Karl Rove

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:59 pm**

mvscal wrote:
We also have a mild hurricance season that has done no damage to any refining infrastructure in the Gulf of Mexico.

So the $3.30 per gallon plunger fukk we've been enduring from the oil companies was just in anticipation of a bad hurricane season?

And now the price can come down?

Gotcha, Dr. Mvscal Detroit.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:11 pm**

Uncle Fester wrote:
mvscal wrote:
We also have a mild hurricance season that has done no damage to any refining infrastructure in the Gulf of Mexico.
So the $3.30 per gallon plunger fukk we've been enduring from the oil companies was just in anticipation of a bad hurricane season?

And now the price can come down?

Gotcha, Dr. Mvscal Detroit.

Never heard of crude oil future trading?

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:12 pm**

Uncle Fester wrote:So the $3.30 per gallon plunger fukk we've been enduring from the oil companies was just in anticipation of a bad hurricane season?

And now the price can come down?

The short answer is yes. 'Market conditions' at $3.30 were partly attributable to hurricanes as mvscal noted. The excess profits at this pricing level get stored away in reserves by the oil companies to address potential future disasters - i.e. hurricanes. This helps them smooth out their earnings over the fiscal year.

If the hurricane season is light, you can expect their reported earnings later this year to be higher, because they'll take all of those unused reserves to income.

Good times.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:17 pm**

mvscal wrote:Gas prices are set by market forces not the political convenience of elected officials.

Deal with it, dumbfuck.

Yea, and nobody manipulates market forces to their own advantage EVER.

Right?

http://news.bostonherald.com/internatio ... eid=157340

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:23 pm**

One of the reasons is that the oil speculators have backed off a bit, because the oil reserves are pretty high right now and so speculation on futures has become far more risky and uncertain. JiminPhilly was on target with that one.

But I would not put it past this administration to drop a little bug in the ears of certain high roller oil industry people that the party that helped line their pockets with mucho cash might need a little help in the mid terms.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:30 pm**

Mister Bushice wrote:
But I would not put it past this administration to drop a little bug in the ears of certain high roller oil industry people that the party that helped line their pockets with mucho cash might need a little help in the mid terms.

Rack the hell out of that.

The "market forces" crap is the same line of bullshit peddled by the Enrons of the world.

When a big holiday rolls around and gas prices suddenly go up by 30 cents, I have a hard time buying the bull about market forces, hurricanes, or a broken fanbelt on a refinery generator motor in Podunk, Idaho.

Call me skeptical.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:34 pm**

Oil prices go down
the economy is progressing
taxes are low

none of these things can save you, GOP.
you've already thoroughly fuct yourself.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:40 pm**

Ain't the Grand Ole oPrey doing this.

It's the oil companies manipulating prices because they are a monopoly. It's that fucking simple.

Not Bush, not Clinton... it's the oil monopoly. Read one take from Mikey on all of this. He told the truth about the "big oil" fat cats shutting down refineries over the years due to the "pressures" from the environmentalists.

He's right. It's a fucking monopoly. Those sand nogs pump that shit out at our whim over in the basket of Doom.

Our own "people" are fucking us, not the Sand Nogs.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:49 pm**

mvscal wrote:I suppose one of these years you're bound to be right.

Stupid fuck I didn't say any of that stuff then.

Kool-aid swilling mvscal can't see the pending pummelling he's about to witness. Not like that's anything new for the barrel boy.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:52 pm**

Bizzarofelice wrote:Oil prices go down
the economy is progressing
taxes are low

none of these things can save you, GOP.
you've already thoroughly fuct yourself.

Wanna bet?

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:03 pm**

Cicero wrote:Wanna bet?

Wanna get punted off the top of the Arch?

2006 GOP is losing seats because whenever the administration opens its mouth, nobody is believeing their shit. You've fuctup too many times. No amount of "gay marriage" type issues will help you.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:04 pm**

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:05 pm**

They are 2.30 where I live.

Call me about low gas prices when it is back down to a dollar something.

Fuck people who continue this two party system. I hate both democrats and rebublicans. Both have the same agenda....money.

Here is a bright idea, everyone vote for a third party candidate in 08 and light a fire underneath their asses.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:09 pm**

Mr T wrote:They are 2.30 where I live.

I'd love to pay $2.30/gal.......instead of the $2.99 we're still being gouge......er...charged......

I blame Chevron......

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:13 pm**

mvscal wrote:better than no plan at all.

Let's see if this bit of Mehlmann propaganda floats in November, tard.

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:08 pm**

mvscal wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:Hmmmm.

We've got elections coming up and suddenly the gas prices are falling.

A mere coincidence?
We also have a mild hurricance season that has done no damage to any refining infrastructure in the Gulf of Mexico.

A mere coincidence?

Only if you belatedly want to back pedal on global warming. Suddenly a "perfectly natural" model of hurricane activity growing ever bigger year over year has become a "suddenly mild season", and not an unforecastable drop over a four week period.
*strokes chin* Hmm, Interesting

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:03 am**

Wrong, actually....

They are formed when large areas of the ocean become heated, and the air pressure over that area drops.

More?
http://kids.earth.nasa.gov/archive/hurricane/index.html

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:49 am**

I usually just blame Bush.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:22 pm**

Bizzarofelice wrote:
mvscal wrote:better than no plan at all.
Let's see if this bit of Mehlmann propaganda floats in November, tard.

We've seen it the last couple of elections.....and it continues today. All I see are "F* Bush" and "Yeehaw isn't a foreign policy" and "Bush = Hitler" bumper stickers (ooooh, such a great way to make your point) and rhetoric as well. Rarely, if ever, do I hear any of the Howard Dean gang come up with any kind of fresh approach or something other than how horrible George Bush and America are. Hey, I'm not the biggest W fan but all I hear are his ideas -OR- how much they suck. A well thought out, well stated alternative would be nice.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:27 pm**

Mustang wrote:A well thought out, well stated alternative would be nice.

I'm sure there are plenty of explanations and plans, but you are focused on bumper stickers.

The GOP has been throwing out this "there's no plan" shit for some time. Fact is the GOP has the plans that get voted on. They are in charge. Alternative Dem plans are offered but aren't getting the headlines. You have to find them as opposed to wait for them to fall into your lap from the lazy media.

Oh look. One google search and I quickly come up with Biden's proposal:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01419.html

It ain't going to get voted on because the GOP is in power, but a proposal exists! How about that! Looks like all this harping from the GOP is merely spin. Whodathunkit?

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:29 pm**

Mustang wrote: We've seen it the last couple of elections.....and it continues today. All I see are "F* Bush" and "Yeehaw isn't a foreign policy" and "Bush = Hitler" bumper stickers (ooooh, such a great way to make your point) and rhetoric as well. Rarely, if ever, do I hear any of the Howard Dean gang come up with any kind of fresh approach or something other than how horrible George Bush and America are. Hey, I'm not the biggest W fan but all I hear are his ideas -OR- how much they suck. A well thought out, well stated alternative would be nice.

Well said.

You'd think that with all of the foul ups of the current administration that it'd be a piece of cake running a solid campaign against the GOP, but so far the Dems have looked nothing but inept when asked to provide alternative views and candidates. All they do is bitch and whine.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:39 pm**

The Senate Dem's proposal:
http://democrats.senate.gov/pdfs/RealSecurity_web.pdf

The proposals exist, dumbass. The "there's no plan" is a mantra repeated by GOP mouthpieces that you have fallen for. They suckered you. You've been took.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:44 pm**

Bizzarofelice wrote:The Senate Dem's proposal:
http://democrats.senate.gov/pdfs/RealSecurity_web.pdf

The proposals exist, dumbass. The "there's no plan" is a mantra repeated by GOP mouthpieces that you have fallen for. They suckered you. You've been took.

I didn't say "there's no plan", I said they aren't running a solid campaign, look nothing but inept when asked to explain their campaign and do nothing but bitch and whine.

My vote, as always, is up for grabs in November and in 2008. So far the Dems have done a piss poor job of convincing me that I should vote for one of them.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:05 pm**

OCmike wrote: I said they aren't running a solid campaign, look nothing but inept when asked to explain their campaign and do nothing but bitch and whine.

Then you're either not watching or not listening. Or maybe just looking at bumper stickers, like Mustang.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:05 pm**

OCmike wrote:My vote, as always, is up for grabs in November and in 2008. So far the Dems have done a piss poor job of convincing me that I should vote for one of them.

It is 9/06. Presidential candidates won't be picked for some time. Why do you think positions will have been established when the candidate, with positions of their own, won't be elected for many, many months?

If you have a House race to vote for, decide based upon the candidates in the running.

If you have a Senate race to vote for, decide based upon the candidates in the running.

Don't base your opinions on generalities reinforced by the national spin machines of the respective parties.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:33 pm**

mvscal wrote:Did you actually bother to read that childish twaddle?

Yeah. It seemed pretty good considering the current plan of "bang your head against the wall. If it hurts, try again."

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:42 pm**

Bizzarofelice wrote:The Senate Dem's proposal:
http://democrats.senate.gov/pdfs/RealSecurity_web.pdf

Do a Ctrl-F and search the word "Bush" in that document. He's so far in your collective domes that you had to mention him over a hundred times in your "Plan"

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:53 pm**

TenTallBen wrote:Do a Ctrl-F and search the word "Bush" in that document. He's so far in your collective domes that you had to mention him over a hundred times in your "Plan"

He's the President.
The current plan is failing.
We, and most of America, are looking for accountability.

I'm sure you guys can be happy with "in your dome" and "bode" when that bumbling fuck is the #1 reason you lost the House.

Didn't expect much of a take from TenTallConcussion.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:55 pm**

WHOA.

Moz has the intrawebs?

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:56 pm**

Here's a plan: Re-elect the Republican Big Oil errand boys and watch those energy prices go right back to where they were. The oil companies won't want to do it, but those pesky hurricaines, floods, earthquakes, lightning storms, plagues of locusts, El Nino, etc., will force their hand.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:00 pm**

I'll rack Mustang. Like he said, the alternatives have not been compelling to many folks. I just don't understand the ineptitude of the Dems and others who would lead opposition. They were laughably incompetent for the 2000 and 2004 elections. Bush was quite vulnerable in both cases. Gore and Kerry were lifeless. They were successful at gathering together opposition, and rendering it weak and feckless.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:05 pm**

mvscal wrote:
Did you actually bother to read that childish twaddle?

If that's your "plan", you're fucked. It might help to actually articulate that plan in public every once in awhile, but I can understand if you want to hide it in some obscure PDF file on line. That might be best.

I for one am throughly impressed by your Evelyn Wood speed reading prowess......not many people I know can get through a 123 page document in just over a half an hour.......

rack you........

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:10 pm**

Gingrich himself said the only message the Democrats need to send is this: It's time for a change.

Fleshed out:

The Grand Old Party has lost its way. The party of less government and less regulation has been replaced by one that has created huge federal deficits and seemingly wants to regulate how we lead our lives. They have sold out to the special interests (does the name Jack Abramoff ring a bell?) and have given up their right to lead. It is time to give the Democrats a chance.

When Newt Gingrich and his crew took over Congress in 1994, they won on the issue of reform. I guess their version of reform meant free golf trips to Scotland and weeklong trips to luxury resorts in the Caribbean. While they were off playing with the special interests, Republicans in Congress led America into a war in Iraq, messed up hurricane relief, watched millions of Americans lose their health care, wrecked environmental protection rules – and did it all on a credit card. This Republican Congress is the first in American history to cut taxes in a time of war…and our children will be the ones paying for it.

The American people are finally catching on to this Republican culture of corruption. Republican Congressman “Duke” Cunningham from California resigned after lining his pockets with millions of dollars from defense contractors. The former GOP House Majority Leader Tom Delay has been indicted for money laundering. I predict that Jack Abramoff, the Republican lobbyist who pleaded guilty to charges of bribing public officials earlier this month, will bring down many more members of Congress … all of them Republicans.

http://www.wisdems.org/ht/d/sp/display/ ... a342b63db2

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:13 pm**

mvscal wrote: You pussy faggots voted for the war, too, and now you can't do shit but make weak excuses for your votes.

That turd isn't going to float.

Complete and unmitigated Republican bullshit spin.
Nice to have further proof that you're completely indoctrinated.

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