It's a damn crying shame...

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:42 pm

you guys got totally screwed by the Pac 10 refs. that being said I am off to have a beer and toast the ducks....:wink:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:43 pm

Fuck Oregon for not covering!

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:45 pm

I blame IndyFrisco for getting my ass to post in here this season.

Imma delete this entire forum because of that, I think.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:47 pm

"kind of a hose job"?

i appreciate you being gracious and non-homer, but Oklahoma got hosed, Froz.

that game ended on the onside kick.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:49 pm

I got no problem admitting that onsides call was blown.

With that being said, I'm damn proud of us for driving TWICE for TDs against you guys in a couple minutes AND blociking a field goal.

Also, I dont think the pass interference call had conclusive video evidence to overturn it. And I'm also not sure it would have mattered considering that our reciever was about 15 yards wide open on the next play.

Honestly, I thought it was a pretty sloppy game, by both teams, most of the way. I thought Bellotti had some horrible coaching decisions in the first half when we could have had a bigger lead (maybe you guys will NOW understand why Duck fans were so pissed about putting in Leaf in the Holliday Bowl) and bad penalties by both teams in bad times.

Dennis Dixon looked about ready to cry on the sidelines after he ran for his touchdown, and I couldn't blame him. I'm glad he got a chance to redeem himself. That's what college football is all about, to me.

Now, I can root for OU for the rest of the year.

Go Sooners!

You'll have your sig, shortly.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:51 pm

Just make sure it's a good one, JayDuck.

After that hosedown, we certainly don't deserve the milquetoast effort OSU fan put forth last week.

I want salt, hydrochloric acid, ninja sweat and whatever else you can think of that will hurt really freaking bad poured all over this wound.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:55 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Meh. Maybe the loss will prompt the coaches to fix some of the problems in the secondary and coverage calls.

i'm not going to argue with you there. but that is not the point.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:11 am

So Oregon touched it before the 10 yard mark AND didn't recover the ball, and the refs STILL gave them the ball...?

I'm not even suprised at this point.

the_ouskull

See You Next Wednesday · Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:21 am

Sure, but I mean besides the illegal touch and the non-recovery the rest of the play was fine.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:23 am

If you look really closely at the replay, you can see Phil Knight tossing money at the officials.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:24 am

Rack Dins.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:28 am

And the P.I. called on the tipped pass... and...

Funny though, Dins. I'm sure that there's more to that than we know. I'll bet the refs are wearing Nikes...

...made in sweatshops by little Sooner children. Assholes.

the_ouskull

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:31 am

E-Mail I just got from a buddy of mine that's just crazy enough to mean it...

Autzen's in driving distance, so if I can find enough flammable material to light that bitch on fire....

the_ouskull

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:34 am

the_ouskull wrote:And the P.I. called on the tipped pass...

That may well have been only 99% conclusive.

Besides, did it really matter, with the swiss cheese D OU was throwing out at the end?

What was that? The "prevent the DBs from covering anyone defense"?

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:59 am

that was a horribly officiated game on both side of the ball...
still...if OU would have put up a little D there a tt the end Ouskull wouldnt nedd the whambulance right now

that sig is gonna go down pretty hard
I think you all need my avatar for the near future untill OU wins

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:12 am

B-t-H, I feel your pain as you're right on the money in terms of Oregon getting hosed and yet you should've found a way to win anyway...

However...

If the voters are honest with themselves after moving OU down after two consecutive wins, they'll move OU up after this loss.

...just keep in mind two things there:

-Your two wins were against doormats, and looking average while playing doormats gets you dropped in the rankings. You were ranked higher than Oregon going into this game, you beat them last year and you'd beaten them six in a row. So, beating them again today was never going to be viewed as much of an upset. Losing to a lower ranked team is never going to help your cause.

-Even despite all of Oregon's turnovers they still racked up over 500 total yards of offense on you and they torched you at will when you could least afford it. Can't exactly say Oregon was the "inferior team" there, can we?

Even up the TO battle and this one might've been an Oregon rout. Your problem is your D. If you'd played even a little bit of it today when it mattered Oregon would've had no opportunity for blown calls by the refs to enter into the equation...

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:25 am

I dunno, the betting line certainly wasn't predicting that Oklahoma was supposed to get run off the field today.

Besides, when you're ranked 15th and you beat a team that's ranked 18th how much of a rankings bump would you expect to receive? When you're ranked 15th and you lose to that 18th ranked team, then what?

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:56 am

With so many other teams also losing I'd expect OU to barely fall a spot or two.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if they don't fall at all in some polls.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:38 pm

OU would have been better off making Pelini DC. Soonerfans didn't like him at the time but when he has had D's to himself at Neb and LSU(ya they lost yesterday but it was 7-3 at Auburn) he has flat-out owned. What was supposed to be a juggernaut defense has been rather suspect in all three games. Venables is not getting the job done.

Sucks to lose when refs screw you but that loss was more about not being able to put the clamps down and finish.

It was a great game though, props to both sides for making it fun to watch.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:55 pm

Danimal wrote:NU would have been better off conviencing Pelini to stay on as DC.

Had to do it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:58 pm

Danimal wrote:It was a great game though, props to both sides for making it fun to watch.

Regardless how the Soonerfans try to tarnish it with inaccurate bullshit.

Oregon came out with over-the-top enthusiasm. OU endured the onslaught, and kept what sould have been a blowout very close.

All Day, as per usual, injected some quick-gonad-growth-hormone at halftime, and absolutely went the fuck off in the second half, in what will never be termed a "shocking turn of events."

BTW-the NCAA needs to test OU's punter for steroids...what the hell was that? Hard to get too excited about a punter, but that dude played awesome, and did everything he could to contribute to the field position battle. One of the unsung heros...but he's a punter, he only gets any recognition when he does badly.

But at the end of the day, the better team won. OU could make waves this season, but their defense looked pretty darn bad. If Oregon wasn't gift-wrapping TO's, that was a blowout. OU better hope they don't have any more games against PAC10 teams this season, because from what I saw yesterday, they just don't have enough speed on defense to compete with the offenses that the PAC10 is throwing out there. Not looking so good for NU, either.

But bottom line....doesn't matter who you are....don't come to Autzen expecting a win. Most teams know that, which is why their nutsac shrivels up when presented with a H&H offer from Oregon.

Mustang · Post by **Mustang** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:21 pm

But bottom line....doesn't matter who you are....don't come to Autzen expecting a win. Most teams know that, which is why their nutsac shrivels up when presented with a H&H offer from Oregon.

Maybe. Unless Oregon is hosting the mighty Indiana Hoosiers in 2004.
Seriously, a very flukey win and the Ducks were supposed to come here last year but IU cancelled the game, opting for a more probable win over Nicholls St.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:28 pm

Mustang wrote: Maybe. Unless Oregon is hosting the mighty Indiana Hoosiers in 2004.
Seriously, a very flukey win and the Ducks were supposed to come here last year but IU cancelled the game, opting for a more probable win over Nicholls St.

OU tried to back out of this one, but U of O wasn't having it...I think there was talk of lawsuits.

Michigan learned the hard way, but they sceduled.

Nebraska gets awfully quiet when the Ducks start tossing paperwork around.

So has FSU.

So has Tenn(although I think a H&H deal is in the works....I supposed Tenn will be all over it, if they can convince Oregon to name Neyland as their "home field" for one day).

That Indiana game hurt, and hurt badly in a forgettable season.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:12 pm

While I agree OU still had a chance to win by either making their field goal at the end or not allowing their slot receiver to slip past the entire defense, there's no doubt in my mind that the refs that were reviewing that play should be fired and, perhaps, caned. Those are 100% inexcuseable mistakes. And to come out after review of the pass interference and say it was not conclusive that the OU defender tipped the ball only proves to 100% certainty that the refs were either cheating or retarded. There is no way you could convince me that a fix was not in place unless those refs were retarded. If they were retarded, I seriously apologize. Those 2 plays were, without any small doubt, obvious calls to make. No way in hell could anyone screw up those reviews. I completely understand how maybe the official on the PI call didn't see the ball tipped live, but to review it and still say it wasn't? Come on, you have got to be kidding me. As for the onside kick, I suppose maybe I'll give them a pass for missing it on the field even though I think it probably should have been noticed that they touched it before 10 yards live. But then to review that play and still say no one touched in before 10 yards is ridiculous. There is not a possible way a non-retarded or blind person that wasn't cheating could have gotten EITHER of those calls wrong and no one could convince me otherwise. I'm not an OU fan, but I am a college football fan that does not like to see teams lose games because the refs flat out cheated. And that is what happened here. If it's a 0% chance of the officials screwing up those 2 calls (and that's what it was) after review, and they still screwed it up......they are cheating.

That said, I took Oklahoma +4.5 in my Pick 6 league so I'm happy!

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:22 pm

TheJON wrote:10 yards live. But then to review that play and still say no one touched in before 10 yards is ridiculous.

Uhm...make shit up, much?

Whether it was touched within 10 yards was NEVER part of the debate...I guess that's what's throwing people off.

The only thing that was under review was whether an OU player touched it first, which was the ruling on the field(by an official that had a better view than any of the cameras). If dumbass OU player hadn't put his hand into the pre-10 yards mix, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But dumbass made a MAJOR special teams error, and it cost his team the game. Spin it ALL you want, but that's the reality of it.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:28 pm

Dinsdale,

That's what I meant, perhaps I should have clafified. Either way, the reality of it is that OU got jobbed on that play. There's really no debate on this.