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... according to the NY Times.

Of course it has; the old generation of terrorists are almost all DEAD

~insert Marcus Allen reset here~

... this just in: Killing terrorists by the truck-load makes for fewer terrorists, not more of them

This not just in:
Cuda is dumb

Cuda wrote:... this just in: Killing terrorists by the truck-load makes for fewer terrorists, not more of them

Yeah...most Americans were all about invading Afghanistan and declaring a race war with Muslims before 9/11. It's not like there were people sitting on the fence, and the events that lead to the deaths of innocent people swayed their opinion to an extreme side of the argument.


Oh...you mean that was more of a "cause and effect" thing? Who woulda thunk it.


But hey, good thing that doesn't apply to Muslims.

I also heard, that after we bombed the hell out of Dresden in WWII, more Germans hated us than ever before.

Go figure.

bray2 wrote:I also heard, that after we bombed the hell out of Dresden in WWII, more Germans hated us than ever before.

Yeah, but we got 'em back, 'cuz we really hated the Germans more than ever before after they bombed Pearl Harbor.

Sin,

bray2 wrote:I also heard, that after we bombed the hell out of Dresden in WWII, more Germans hated us than ever before.

Go figure.

Germany is a Muslim country, right?


The war effort would be going much more smoothly if W would just keep his fucking mouth shut.

Dinsdale wrote:The war effort would be going much more smoothly if W would just keep his fucking mouth shut.

He's only quiet when the administration REALLY fucked up. then he sends his minions out to talk shows to throw the spin ("mushroom clouds" "mobile labs" "cut-and-run").

6 years in, and I have to say...

W is a fuckup of monumental proportions. His/their carte blanche policy of "We'll just keep telling the people 'BECAUSE I SAID SO,' so then when we really get caught lying and stealing money, they'll be used to our "well, we could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you' attitude" has done nothing but prove W to be The Great Divider.

Now, he's decided that formerly "super-secret-the-terrorists-have-won-if-the-public-knows-what's-in-these-documents" documents weren't so top-secret after all, or at least not now that he thinks they'll put him in a more positive light, and help in the mid-terms.

What he thinks is going to be helpful to his cause, is actually just another admission that he;s lied to the American People, once again.

Yet he wonders why people doubt his every word and his every move...


Gee, W -- ya'think it might have something to do with you lying about something, every fucking time you open your mouth, and invariably getting caught doing it? Ya'think that might have something to do with the public's mistrust of the administration?

Dinsdale wrote:6 years in, and I have to say...

W is a fuckup of monumental proportions. His/their carte blanche policy of "We'll just keep telling the people 'BECAUSE I SAID SO,' so then when we really get caught lying and stealing money, they'll be used to our "well, we could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you' attitude" has done nothing but prove W to be The Great Divider.

Ah come on Dins, we all know that W is a unificator, not a divider-upper.

He said so.

mvscal wrote:
You say that as if it makes any difference.

I agree......

remember after the war when all those ex-Nazi's were strapping bombs to themselves and blowin shit up......

funny shit.......

mvscal wrote:

Felix wrote:

mvscal wrote:
You say that as if it makes any difference.

I agree......

remember after the war when all those ex-Nazi's were strapping bombs to themselves and blowin shit up......

funny shit.......

Yes, I do remember what happened after the war.

Good job kicking your own ass, idiot.

Just curious, how do you differentiate between an “idiot” and a “dumbfuck”? Do you have a spreadsheet you refer to, or do you do it all on the fly?

One other thing, regarding your nic. I always figured that the “scal” portion referred your location, and that the “mv” must be your initials. Is it possible that your real name is “Marty”? Cause that could be kind of ironically hilarious.

mvscal wrote:
Yes, I do remember what happened after the war.

Good job kicking your own ass, idiot.

so they did strap bombs to themselves?!?!?!?!?!?!

I'm sure you can link me up.......

mvscal wrote: No, they didn't. They were reasonably well behaved after the war.

During the war, they continued to replace their losses with fresh reserves. In other words, killing Nazis just created more Nazis....until they threw in the towel anyway.

so killing them spawned more nazi's.......but that's not the case when it comes to terrorists? :?

so they behaved after the war.......



so went went wrong in Iraq........

fundy's are fucking up the whole thing........

I wish they'd get with the program......

Bizzarofelice wrote: minions

Damn, I miss Python.

What a bunch of Orwellian Limpdickian drivel!

First, comparing the Islamic militants to the German Nazis is completely ass-backwards.

In the approriate comparison--AMERICA is playing the role of the Nazis. THis does not however, make the Al Qaeda the equivelent of the French Underground.

But....and allow yourself a bit of abstract thinking here....imagine if the Nazis had been able to gain a grudging "international" approval for their aggression (say, in an invasion to wipe out "Bolshevik Terror") and were duly bogged down--just like we are at present. Well, don't you think this situation would motivate hundreds of thousands of otherwise non-militant people all over the region to FIGHT BACK? And don't you think that the rallying point of such a natural reaction to foreign invaders would be the "People's Cause" or whatever the locals choose to call themselves?

It's as obvious as ANY resistance to vicious and illegal aggression.

The vast majority of ALL iraqis want the U.S. OUT NOW.

Rummy and the Chimp--and Cheney and all his bloated Defense Industry hogs--their snouts pushed deep into the trough--are very quickly heading for the Nuremberg Noose that they deserve.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:What a bunch of Orwellian Limpdickian drivel!

First, comparing the Islamic militants to the German Nazis is completely ass-backwards.

In the approriate comparison--AMERICA is playing the role of the Nazis.

So when do we stop screwing around and get serious about solving the Islamic problem?

:twisted:

mvscal wrote:Killing terrorists does not spawn more terrorists.

Not true, at least not now, until we can shut down the madrasses.

The "martyr" factor is a big part of the equation with these freaks.

We're not fighting an organized army, sponsored by a nation state, but an idea, fueled by others who are "martyred."

Until we start to shut down the madrasses, everywhere, we're not going to make much of a dent in the global "war," being in Iraq or not.

Iraq is a stage, not a "final battle" or some shit, despite the prayers of the Christian fundie freaks in this country, who can't wait for the world to burn so we can just all see Jesus again.

We're fighting on stage in Iraq, instead of moving to shut down the madrasses, at least publically.

Bush's argument is to stay on stage. He's right. No way in hell we're going to get off the stage now, at least until Iraq is at least quasi-stable, which is going to take a while, imo.

Aren't American soldiers martyrs?

What..if you're driving a Humvee down a block in a city you've invaded--a people and culture you've you've violently terrorized and ruined--and you KNOW that the locals have thousands of tons of explosives and cell phones...what, you're NOT being offered up on a platter?--er..the Altar Of Freedom--a sacrificial victim for the intended purpose of inflamming raw patriotic solidarity back home?

Just because the odds allow that you might survive, the fact of willingly rolling around in trucks--KNOWING that a certain percentage are going to get blown up each week--well, that makes that particular soldier a willing martyr. To the degree a soldier is willing, that is, after his tour has just been extended for the third time.

Uh, no.

And STFU, psycho.

You type all of your horseshit under the idiotic assumption that if only the U.S. would leave Iraq, everything would be like Pee Wee's playhouse, don't you?

You aren't getting the concept that most of these freaks would KILL you and your family and your friends and your entire city (if they could) in a second, without even blinking an eye, despite your sympathy for their "cause." They don't CARE, you fucking moron. They want you DEAD.
Ignorance is bliss for the LTS Carol Tard. Congrats, you're moving up in the next T1B Tard Update thread.

The remark was facetious. Killing terrorists does not spawn more terrorists.

except for the terrorist recruiters preying on angry, grief stricken family members and relatives, along with the added recruitment bonus of all those virgins in the after life, you might have something there.

Okay, so if a terrorist attacks and you do nothing.. what will happen?

This argument that fighting terrorism only creates more is similar to the question,
"Who is to blame for 9-11?"-Bush or Clinton?

Personally, I think the terrorists are to blame for that one.


and as far as what we are doing in IRAQ and Afghanistan...
I don't know what effect it will have but I am glad that we are fighting this war OVER THERE and not RIGHT HERE!!

btw..RACK mvscal for the line..

Funny how I don't hear any idiots claiming that killing US troops spawns more US troops. Military forces replace their losses until they are no longer able to do so. This is not a new or recent development in military history.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Aren't American soldiers martyrs?

What..if you're driving a Humvee down a block in a city you've invaded--a people and culture you've you've violently terrorized and ruined--and you KNOW that the locals have thousands of tons of explosives and cell phones...what, you're NOT being offered up on a platter?--er..the Altar Of Freedom--a sacrificial victim for the intended purpose of inflamming raw patriotic solidarity back home?

Just because the odds allow that you might survive, the fact of willingly rolling around in trucks--KNOWING that a certain percentage are going to get blown up each week--well, that makes that particular soldier a willing martyr. To the degree a soldier is willing, that is, after his tour has just been extended for the third time.

Hey cocksucker... yeah you. I want your entire race of hate wiped off the face of the planet. Every one of you pieces of shit are not worthy of life as you don't respect life. The real God will weed you fucking devils out during the real judgement in front of the white throne. I can't wait until the day you get tossed into the pit... the 2nd death which is eterenal... gnashing of teeth, etc.


You barbaric animals are nothing to me but the end of a gun sight target. Pull the trigger and off you animals and haters of life. Islam is an idea created by a false prophet that is currently kicking it with the likes of Hitler and crew. The bottomless pit you and your faith all can look forward to is not 72 virgins... but very hot and dark indeed. ALL of you heathens are going to burn for all eternity. I am laughing at you sick animals right now you fucking piece of shit.

You and your entire religion are doomed to Hell and it isn't Bush's fault. You and those sick parasites are going to melt, boil, perish and I'm all too happy to see your destruction. Answer this parasitic fuckup... Why do you animals believe in "Muhammed" and 72 virgins? Why 72 and not just one? You barbaric fucks are doomed to Hell and your prophet is nothing but a lie.

Get out of my country and go live with the dogs you support you goddamned tard. Get the fuck out of my country bitch!

Jack wrote:and as far as what we are doing in IRAQ and Afghanistan...
I don't know what effect it will have but I am glad that we are fighting this war OVER THERE and not RIGHT HERE!!

Yes, we're ALL glad of that.
It goes without saying though.
I'm not trying to be funny, but what is your point there ... ?
Please elaborate on that, Jack.

I've heard GW say similarly that 'we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here.'

Really ... ?

So if we were NOT fighting over in Iraq and Afghanistan then we would be fighting 'them' over here ... ?

How does he figure that .... ?

The scum we're fighting has no plans to 'fight' us on our soil, although one does assume that they plan on hit-and-running us again in the near future.

Despite irresponsibly leaving the Mexican border wide open, Bush CAN claim a version of 'BODE by virtue of the fact that we have not had another terror attack on our soil since 9/11.

Whether or not that is due to us 'fighting them over there' is open for debate, I s'pose.

I'd feel better if the fence was built.

But then again .... I don't think Anyang South Korea is high on the AQ terror hit list.


'BODE me.

^ From cheneys mouth to mvscals lips

The Iraqis have never attacked us--why would they want to now?.....Oh yeah

Nice frothing melt, A-punk. Why don't you try it in "tounges" so it sounds, uh, coherent?

As far as killing "terrorists" creating more "terrorists," well, it worked at the Alamo, didn't it? I mean, wasn't U.S. Army recruitment WAY up after that regrettable loss of life by those brave (American) martyrs?

mvscal wrote: The idea that killing your enemy only creates more enemies is the single most idiotic notion in human history. .

It worked for Obi-Wan Kenobi, didn't it?


Oh, wait... that was just a movie, wasn't it?

mvscal wrote:

poptart wrote:The scum we're fighting has no plans to 'fight' us on our soil, although one does assume that they plan on hit-and-running us again in the near future.

Guess again, dipshit.

We all did, and you're wrong.

And was that Marty or Martyr?

mvscal wrote:

poptart wrote:The scum we're fighting has no plans to 'fight' us on our soil, although one does assume that they plan on hit-and-running us again in the near future.

Guess again, dipshit.

Then tell me what kind of plan you think they have to fight us on our soil.

poptart wrote:

Then tell me what kind of plan you think they have to fight us on our soil.

they're in the process right now of loading up the carriers and all of the support vessals....as soon as they get the MIG's on board, they set sail for the US.........