what a mess

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:21 am

Raiders' Porter suspended four gamesESPN.com news services

ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders suspended disgruntled wide receiver Jerry Porter for four games without pay Saturday for conduct detrimental to the team.

Porter

Porter, when contacted by ESPN for a response, offered a "no comment."

The suspension, which will likely be appealed by the union, would cost Porter slightly over $235,000 in salary. Sources said Porter was informed of the decision on Friday.

Porter, Oakland's leading receiver a year ago, was inactive for the first four games of the season after clashing with new coach Art Shell and making public a trade demand at the start of training camp. The Raiders granted Porter and his agent, Joel Segal, permission to seek a trade.

"It's crazy," Porter said of his situation earlier this week. "I pretty much stay quiet and do what I'm asked. What am I supposed to do? I'm playing the cards the way they're dealt to me."

The Raiders were traveling to Denver on Saturday for Sunday night's game against the Broncos and unavailable for comment on the decision to suspend Porter.

Porter has been working with the scout team in practice, falling behind unheralded receivers Alvis Whitted and Johnnie Morant on the depth chart as Oakland opened the season 0-4. Whitted, who took Porter's spot in the starting lineup, has six catches for 70 yards, while Morant has no catches as the team's fourth receiver.

Porter has been on the sideline during the four losses to open the season, often seen joking around while the Raiders have struggled on offense without him.

Some players have questioned the decision to sit Porter while the team has struggled mightily on offense, but Shell has stuck to the decision. Shell has refused to elaborate on why Porter has been inactive.

"He's working. It's not that he's not working," Shell said earlier this week. "I've never said he hasn't worked. He's doing what he's asked to do and you can't ask for anything more than that."

Porter, in the second year of a five-year contract worth $20 million, had been hoping to be dealt before Tuesday's trade deadline.

Porter led the Raiders with 76 catches last season and had 942 yards receiving and five touchdown receptions in 2005.

Porter, a second-round pick out of West Virginia in 2000, has 239 catches for 3,215 yards and 24 touchdowns in six seasons with the Raiders. He has never reached 1,000 yards receiving in a season, missing the mark narrowly with 998 yards in 2004 and 942 last season.

Porter will be eligible to return from the suspension Nov. 12 when the Raiders host the Broncos.

If anyone here thinks it was Shell who decided to suspend Porter then I've got a nice ocean front plot in Nevada I'd like to sell ya.

drummer · Post by **drummer** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:37 am

More to the story ...

Raiders suspend Porter for detrimental conduct
Wideout who hasn't played this season to miss four games
Nancy Gay, Chronicle Staff Writer

Saturday, October 14, 2006

(10-14) 13:57 PDT DENVER -- A "chaotic" Raiders practice session on Friday in Alameda - a sloppy, longer-than-usual workout that left many players grumbling, sources said -- resulted in wide receiver Jerry Porter receiving a four-game suspension from coach Art Shell for conduct detrimental to the team when the seventh-year veteran openly complained within earshot of the staff.

Porter, 28, already has been deep in Shell's doghouse after the opinionated receiver clashed with the new head coach and receivers coach Fred Biletnikoff during a meeting last spring.

The team's No. 2 receiver in 2005, behind Randy Moss, with 76 catches for 942 yards and five touchdowns, Porter has not been active in any of the Raiders' four games this season, all losses. Since then, he has been practicing on the offensive and defensive scout teams, mimicking opponents during the week and sitting on game days.

Characterized by one Raiders player as "the worst practice we've had all season" under Shell, the usual 90-minute Friday session extended well past 2½ hours, several team sources said on the condition of anonymity, and much of the roster was frustrated and angry by the lack of organization.

"People wonder why we're 0-4 -- that's why," one player said of the workout. "It was a joke out there. Guys were pissed off."

Numerous players, including veterans such as Moss and defensive tackle Warren Sapp, were grumbling among themselves about the practice session, which one Raiders source described as "completely disorganized and chaotic."

At one point, sources said, Porter -- who was running with the scout team defense -- asked somewhat loudly if the practice "was going to last three hours or what?"

Shell overheard the comment, sources said, and retaliated with the suspension, which would cost Porter $235,000 of his $1 million base salary -- if it were to stick.

And that appears unlikely.

Unlike the Philadelphia Eagles, who carefully documented every egregious offense committed by controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens before slapping him with a similar four-game suspension without pay last season, the Raiders have not kept a detailed dossier on Porter.

Without proper documentation of so-called detrimental conduct, an NFL source said, it would be almost impossible to enforce the suspension once it is appealed by Porter's agent, Joel Segal, and the NFL Players Association.

"This won't last a week," an NFL source said Saturday.

The Eagles built their case on Owens by citing instances such as a fight he had with former player Hugh Douglas, who serves as a team "ambassador." When Owens' suspension was finished, Philadelphia coach Andy Reid then deactivated him the remainder of the 2005 season.

In Porter's case, the Raiders will have a difficult time proving he has done anything disruptive enough to warrant banishment.

"The guy is out there practicing, doing everything he has to do to help us," one player said Saturday before the team departed for Denver for Sunday night's AFC West contest against Denver. "Come on now, this is getting out of hand.

"A lot of us are wondering what's next."

Ailing team owner Al Davis, several sources said, has turned over almost all authority to Shell and did not intervene in the decision to suspend Porter.

Porter told The Chronicle in July that he and Shell were not on the same page and that had no confidence in Shell's choice for an offensive coordinator, Tom Walsh. Porter also said that he hoped the team would trade him.

The Raiders gave Segal permission to shop Porter, provided he repays about $4 million in bonus money the receiver was paid last year. So far, there have been no takers.

The NFL's trade deadline is Tuesday.

E-mail Nancy Gay at ngay@sfchronicle.com.

Hang on Raiduhfan, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:01 am

karma

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:24 am

So... he'll once again be in the stands cheering when his QB gets sacked?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Whatever the hell Oakland is trying to do, I'll just feel safe assuming they're doing it wrong.

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:10 pm

I'd like to go on the record and say that even if Porter WAS playing this team would STILL be 0-4.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:09 pm

Ailing team owner Al Davis, several sources said, has turned over almost all authority to Shell and did not intervene in the decision to suspend Porter.

and therein lies the problem......

They say that lunacy is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results......

bringing Shell back fits that definition.....

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:23 pm

Felix wrote:
Ailing team owner Al Davis, several sources said, has turned over almost all authority to Shell and did not intervene in the decision to suspend Porter.
and therein lies the problem......

They say that lunacy is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results......

bringing Shell back fits that definition.....

I wanna know who are the sources. If its the normal Davis mouthpieces then shame on you for falling for the bait again.

I can see the conversation now...

Art: Missa Al missa Al! Jery Porter is moufin off again! Wuuda I do?wudda I do??

Alcula: Aaaaathhuuuu ,you were right ta infoorm me of this. *cough*cough* Mista Porta must be dealt sevely.

Art: I caint handle Randy Moss neitha suh!

Alcula:You leave Mista Moss be,but fo now I eer I mean you will suspend Porta 4 games. I have spoken.

Art:Oh thank you suh! thank you!!

and THATS the reason Art was hired back. Al can always use another lackey.

godzilla2002 · Post by **godzilla2002** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:28 pm

The Assassin wrote:

I can see the conversation now...

Art: Missa Al missa Al! Jery Porter is moufin off again! Wuuda I do?wudda I do??

Alcula: Aaaaathhuuuu ,you were right ta infoorm me of this. *cough*cough* Mista Porta must be dealt sevely.

Art: I caint handle Randy Moss neitha suh!

Alcula:You leave Mista Moss be,but fo now I eer I mean you will suspend Porta 4 games. I have spoken.

Art:Oh thank you suh! thank you!!

LMAO!!!
Rack The Assassin

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:02 pm

At least my team is not the Raiders.

Sinc,

The remainder of NFL fans

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:36 pm

stuckinia wrote:At least my team is not the Raiders.

Sinc,

The remainder of NFL fans

its still better than being a Lion fan

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:00 pm

stuckinia wrote:At least my team is not the Raiders.

Sinc,

The remainder of NFL fans

Nevermind.

Sinc,

SkinFan

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:04 pm

mvscal wrote:
Without proper documentation of so-called detrimental conduct, an NFL source said, it would be almost impossible to enforce the suspension once it is appealed by Porter's agent, Joel Segal, and the NFL Players Association.

"This won't last a week," an NFL source said Saturday.

They're so fucked up they can't even suspend a player correctly. Outstanding.

First fucking thing I thought as well........

Shove it up your ass, Al and Art. I hope Porter gets the fuck over on these clueless dipshits.

Im dead sure Alcula couldnt float down the halls fast enough to ring up one of his fucking lawyers about this.......

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:29 pm

the Assassin wrote:Alcula: Aaaaathhuuuu

Rack! Laughing out loud over here.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:46 pm

Ailing team owner Al Davis,

:swoon:

-sin
Everybody

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:00 am

I'd say that your own team got beat by 38 pts today at Pittsburgh, and Oakland got beat by 10 at Denver.

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:53 am

Salisbury was a joke of a QB and is a joke of an "analyst".

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:51 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
The Assassin wrote:Salisbury was a joke of a QB and is a joke of an "analyst".
Actually he's arguably the BEST analyst on TV. Thanks for playing.

Did you jack this from a blog Salisbury keeps?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:01 pm

I always considered Salisbury to be a major douchebag.
On top of that but he has a bit of a stuttering habit.

He's not my cup o' tea, but if Paul digs him .... oh well.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:00 pm

If KFC Paul thinks that Salisbury is the best analyst on TV, chances are pretty good that Sean Salisbury is an idiot.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:24 pm

Paul likes Sean because he thinks the steak is named after him

drummer · Post by **drummer** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:28 pm

Cuda wrote:Paul likes Sean because he thinks the steak is named after him

Yeah, Salisbury is really reaching with his Raider take.

Memo to Salisbury,

We already know that.

Kansas City Kid · Post by **Kansas City Kid** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:02 pm

Cuda wrote:Paul likes Sean because he thinks the steak is named after him

RACK THAT!!! Stupid-ass "takes" like this one on Salisbury and the ass he is making of himself in the Tampa Bay thread coupled with his known pilfering of what others say solidy RuPaula as shit personified! Congrats, Tubby!!! :paul:

godzilla2002 · Post by **godzilla2002** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:46 pm

Looks like things are about to change real soon for the Raiders!
Did you see the shots of Al Davis last night in Denver? Holly Shit! The walking corpse is at the time clock and ready to punch out! Bet he doesn’t make it to the end of this season let alone to the start of next season.