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The Big East has been hyping this game since the schedule was released and they have both teams in the position they hoped they would be in.

I picked Louisville to win the Big East before the season started, but they have been less than impressive since Brohm has come back. Their run game is a bit inconsistent without having M. Bush in the backfield. Their run D has been giving up a good deal of yards lately as well.

WVU has been doing what was expected of them. Their only glaring weakness seems to be their pass D. White is good enough to keep opposing D's honest because he's a very good passer.

Hope this one lives up to the hype.

WVU - 34
LOU - 24

Such a tough one to pick, since we haven't seen either team play a top dog this season.

Lulvall's at home, and is, to me, the slightly more well-rounded team. Mucho points out they've been sluggish lately...I just think they haven't really been challenged. They'll get up for this game in a huge way.

Louisville 31
WVU 24

Louisville has not been very impressive in its wins against Cincy and Syracuse. The Inbred Toothless Gumps, however, looked pretty good versus UConn (one of the best teams these chumps have played this year). Both teams have questionable Ds, so it will probably come down to a missed FG or dumb TO. As hard as it is to do, I will have to pick WVA. Many a couch and futon will be sacrificed to Hephaestus in Morgantown.

WVA 35
Louisville 32

WVU.

Louisville by 2 TDs

Lou-ville 31
West-by-God 21

Louisville 34
WVU 27

The Cardinals looked downright ordinary against Cincinnati and Syracuse. Even Middle Tennnessee moved the ball on them.

WVU by 14

Here is a question, if Louisville does win, and run the rest of their schedule, are they in the NC game? Almost every article I have read says WVU would be in if they won out. However, I haven't heard a single person place the same fate on Louisville. Opinions?

I should be at this game tonight but my mom gave the tickets away. "I didn't think you'd wanna' come down here during the week." Uh, thanks mom. Guess I'll watch it at home. Gimme' the rednecks (could've swore most of their necks are beyond red)......34-24.

Sky wrote:Here is a question, if Louisville does win, and run the rest of their schedule, are they in the NC game? Almost every article I have read says WVU would be in if they won out. However, I haven't heard a single person place the same fate on Louisville. Opinions?

If they won, then they would probably jump both UF and WVU in the BCS. It would just depend on how much they do that.

Is an undefeated Lousville better than a 1-loss UM/OSU? I think if Florida wins out including the cash grab errrrrrrrrr SEC Championship game, they'll go.

Won't all of CFB freak if Louisville is the only other unbeaten (Boise doesn't count) and doesn't get in. I know there is a lot of talk of OSU vs Mich v2 but the only way I would want that to happen is if OSU wins the first game. If Mich wins, let them move on and beat someone else. But I don't really think that will happen either. Can the BCS really allow itself to take a one-loss team over an undefeated and possible end the season with two undefeateds?

I'm against a rematch in the NC as well. Why should the outcome of the second game be more important than the first? Either team could split the series and win it all. Makes no sense.

Playoff anyone?

Maybe the coaches are jonesing for it now. Mack Brown came on the SMU/UAB broadcast the other night, mainly because he brother Welton coaches the Blazers, and talked about how college football really ought to go to some kind of playoff format to determine a national champion. Guess he's more of a proponent with his team having one loss. But he is right.

How'd you like to be Auburn from a couple years ago? Run the card in the SEC and you don't even get a chance to play for all the marbles. At least the other two teams, OU and USC, were undefeated as well, but not exactly fair to Auburn. And more to Sky's point, back in '82 SMU went undefeated yet Georgia, with one loss, was crowned national champion. Huh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

One side of me says if WVa or UofL is undefeated, they deserve to be in the NC game. The other side sort of knows that Michigan, Ohio St., Florida is a hair better (even with one (possible) loss) and would deserve a spot in that game. But THIS is the system we have right now. It is what it is....and it kind of sucks.

WVU is going to run roughshot over Louisville.

i looked at some common opponents, and cinccy ran all over lousville, white isnt a great passer, but i see them opening up the playbook tonight. wvu has pounded their oponents, very convincenly, and should take this by 7 points.


go wvu

West Virginia 31
Louisville 28

WolverineSteve wrote:Playoff anyone?

In!

Jimmy Medalions wrote:WVU is going to run roughshot over Louisville.

Yeah, because Thursday night home teams always get blown out.

Sin,

No they don't.

This game is crazy.

If you look away for one play, you'll miss something huge.

slaton can cough the ball up with the best of them.


he just ass fucked his team from any chance of winning

Too bad that running "roughshot" thing isn't working out for WVU.

Being wrong AND using words that don't exist is no way to go through life.

WVU's D must have stayed back in the dressing room after halftime.

See you guys for another epic Big East undefeated Thursday night showdown.

Louisville @ Rutgers, 11/9.

Watched every play of this game...

These two teams are not in the same universe as the real BCS title game contending teams. Maybe they could hang for one game, if all the stars aligned just right, but if they had to line up and play real competition week in and week out they'd soon get shithammered into the turf.

Reasons? You mean, beyond the obvious ones?

Athletes. These teams simply don't have enough athletes on defense. They're too light, too slow and they simply don't have enough ass to stand up to a true BCS power playing at a high level and running downhill.

They have athletes, definitely, but they're mostly all on offense. There's not enough to go around, not to where they can end up with a truly powerful squad on both sides of the ball. The tackling in this game looked like a typical game between kids. Lotsa huge holes, lotsa painfully wide open recievers, no pass rush at all and missed tackles galore.

Ohio St could name the score against either team here. Yeah, either team would manage to score a bit on the best BCS teams but they'd never be able to slow down anybody who's truly worth a shit...

Louisville as a BCS #3 will just be sad. Hopefully they'll go in flat against the next Big East Pretender and come out with a loss, leaving only Rutgers left of the B.E. Pretenders.

In terms of being truly worthy of the BCS title game would any of us (besides the few members here of the P.C. Police) give a crap whatsoever if Rutgers ended up 12-0? Would we really pull the trigger on them vs a Florida, Auburn, Texas, ND or USC?

Ridiculous. We watched Boise St again tonight.

Congrats though to Louisville's program. Huge exposure and they made the most of their opportunity. Brohm really helped himself, as did Petrino.

Just remember folks, your #3 team in the next BCS poll gave up well over 500 yards on their home field to a completely untested squad and were it not for all those fumbles by Slaton and W. Virginia then the total would've been well into the 600s and Louisville easily could've lost...

Fun game though, kinda like a video football game played by a couple of tweakers.

Well, well, well.

I did think that WVU would lose a game in the Big East. I thought that Maryland might give them a game. However, this Louisville win surprises me. I would have picked them earlier in the year, but I thought the injuries that they've sustained would have held them back in this game.

Right as the game started, I was going with WVU: 38, Louisville: 10.

My horrific prognostications skills aside, this was an interesting game. WVU has talent, but very little discipline - particularly on defense.

Van wrote:Watched every play of this game...

These two teams are not in the same universe as the real BCS title game contending teams. Maybe they could hang for one game, if all the stars aligned just right, but if they had to line up and play real competition week in and week out they'd soon get shithammered into the turf.

Reasons? You mean, beyond the obvious ones?

Athletes. These teams simply don't have enough athletes on defense. They're too light, too slow and they simply don't have enough ass to stand up to a true BCS power playing at a high level and running downhill.

They have athletes, definitely, but they're mostly all on offense. There's not enough to go around, not to where they can end up with a truly powerful squad on both sides of the ball. The tackling in this game looked like a typical game between kids. Lotsa huge holes, lotsa painfully wide open recievers, no pass rush at all and missed tackles galore.

Ohio St could name the score against either team here. Yeah, either team would manage to score a bit on the best BCS teams but they'd never be able to slow down anybody who's truly worth a shit...

Louisville as a BCS #3 will just be sad. Hopefully they'll go in flat against the next Big East Pretender and come out with a loss, leaving only Rutgers left of the B.E. Pretenders.

In terms of being truly worthy of the BCS title game would any of us (besides the few members here of the P.C. Police) give a crap whatsoever if Rutgers ended up 12-0? Would we really pull the trigger on them vs a Florida, Auburn, Texas, ND or USC?

Ridiculous. We watched Boise St again tonight.

Congrats though to Louisville's program. Huge exposure and they made the most of their opportunity. Brohm really helped himself, as did Petrino.

Just remember folks, your #3 team in the next BCS poll gave up well over 500 yards on their home field to a completely untested squad and were it not for all those fumbles by Slaton and W. Virginia then the total would've been well into the 600s and Louisville easily could've lost...
Fun game though, kinda like a video football game played by a couple of tweakers.

Couldn't agree more. For maybe the first time ever, I wanted to jump through the screen and pimp-slap Fowler and Herbstreet. The Big East is a fraud and they were all but comparing it to the AFC West.

Florida, Auburn, Texas, USC, Notre Dame, etc. >>>> ANY Big East team.

Hey, those ESPN guys have to drum up ratings for next Thursday night's Louisville-Rutgers ESPN game.

Being P.C. and all, yeah, Fowler and Herbstreit grudgingly bleated out that they're going to vote Louisville #3 in this week's BCS poll. (You knew damn well though that they would've felt a lot better about saying that crap if they could've at least still been talking about W. Virginia...) Then, in the very next breath, Fowler says that Louisville would be at least a 14 point dog to OSU.

That'd be a conservative spin. OSU would easily score in the 40s against Louisville and would Louisville score in the 30s against OSU's D these days?

Fowler and Herbstreit knew what they were doing and we all know why they were doing it. Doin' their job, just throwin' a "feel good" bone to the locals...

The one true thing said all night was when Herbstreit said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "People have this perception that the Big East isn't legit. People need to get over that perception..."

Why, Kirk? Why do we need to get over it? Just to validate the farcical BCS rankings, and ESPN's frothing telecast?

Nope. People are right. Perception is still reality there. Those two teams (three teams, including Rutgers) haven't played anybody and they don't deserve their rankings. Beating each other is all they did and it's all they can do and despite what you attempted to make of it during the telecast tonight's game was never going to do anything but drop one of the two teams off the map. Nobody was ever going to come away convinced that one of those two teams truly "belongs" now just because they hammered the other untested pretender...

War Stoops wrote:Florida, Auburn, Texas, USC, Notre Dame, etc. >>>> ANY Big East team.

That's why they play the games. On a neutral field, I'd only say Florida would beat any Big East team right now. Maybe Auburn as well. Calling the Big East a "fraud" is a bit of stretch, especially seeing how down conferences like the ACC and Big 12 are this season.

Honestyl this was like watching two WAC teams go at it. All offense and no defense on either side. There is some talent on the offensive side for both teams. But nothing on the defensive side. I thought I was watching a BYU game from the 80's only a lot less white at the receiver spots.

I have no doubts that Texas would struggle with the Louisville passing game but I highly doubt they could stop the Texas offense once. Texas would beat WVU by 50. The WV oline would get man handled by the much bigger and faster Texas dline and Texas would shut down their rushing offense.

If this is the best the Big least has to offer then one of them passing over Texas would be a huge injustice. For that matter I think that goes for Florida, USC, loser of tOSU/Michigan and 3 or 4 other schools.

I'm thinking that for once here we'll probably all be in agreement on something!

Nah. Somebody will come in here to play the douchebag "Let's be fair!" P.C. card...

MuchoBulls wrote:

War Stoops wrote:Florida, Auburn, Texas, USC, Notre Dame, etc. >>>> ANY Big East team.

That's why they play the games. On a neutral field, I'd only say Florida would beat any Big East team right now. Maybe Auburn as well. Calling the Big East a "fraud" is a bit of stretch, especially seeing how down conferences like the ACC and Big 12 are this season.

Homer much?

Texas, Auburn, Florida, USC, ND, Cal, OU and LSU would all beat Louisville, West Virigina, and Rutgers. Hands down.

Where are the WVU bandwagon slappies that have been touting them in here all year? The 'neers are a joke. They've been hanging their hat on a bowl win from LAST SEASON!! One-dimensional teams do not win titles. All WVU can do is run the football. They cannot pass, nor can they defend. They're a nice team, maybe top 15, but MNC talk is ridiculous. Now we need L-ville to get exposed. For goodness sake...a UM/OSU vs. Louisville matchup would not only be a ratings nightmare, but an ugly game to boot. Should Louisville run the table a BCS game would be a nice reward, but not the title game. When all WVU can do is run, and they still give up 300+ yards rushing.....get the fuck out.

MuchoBulls wrote:That's why they play the games. On a neutral field, I'd only say Florida would beat any Big East team right now. Maybe Auburn as well. Calling the Big East a "fraud" is a bit of stretch, especially seeing how down conferences like the ACC and Big 12 are this season.

You're probably right that the word "fraud" is a little too strong. But an unbeaten Big East team, that hasn't tested itself out of conference, does not deserve a title shot over a one-loss team from one of the five major conferences. In general this year, I would put one-loss Big 10, SEC, and Pac 10 teams ahead of one-loss teams from the Big 12 or ACC.

Where are the WVU bandwagon slappies that have been touting them in here all year?

I haven't seen anyone do that. My take has been, let's see how things go before we conclude anything. Do I believe in my hear that a Big East team belongs in the BCS? Not at this point. Is it a physical impossibility? Not at all.

You have to admit, the Big East has been quite interesting this year...and that's coming from a fan who has been very critical of the conference.

541 total yards by WVU and they lose by 10? NIce work, D.

Harvdog wrote:Homer much?

Texas, Auburn, Florida, USC, ND, Cal, OU and LSU would all beat Louisville, West Virigina, and Rutgers. Hands down.

Let's hope that Louisville or WVU gets to play some of those teams in a bowl game and we'll see.

Huge week for Louisville. Breeders Cup on Saturday and winning the Inbreeders Cup last night.

I actually believe Louisville can beat, or at least compete with, anyone in the country. I guess that means I bought into the ESPN "hype." Uh huh, whatever. Their defense isn't special, but it isn't horrid, and doesn't need to be great when they have an offense like that. They just have to score more than the other guy, and with that offense, there's a pretty good chance that's going to happen.