Top Rookie So Far

See You Next Wednesday · Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:41 pm

So on the Dan Patrick show a couple of days ago they asked some dude from the Pats who the top rookie this season is. He dutifully said Laurence Maroney. Patrick countered, half-heartedly, with Reggie Bush. Patrick was on the right track, the best rookie does play for the Saints. This guy...

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Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:44 pm

He's the best Offensive rookie.

The best defensive rookie is DeMeco Ryans - Texans.

He's a very good LB already.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:21 am

Mississippi Neck wrote:
The best defensive rookie is DeMeco Ryans - Texans.

He's a very good LB already.

Hello?

Tamba Hali ring a bell?

At least he's not playing for a team considering how to fuck up their next top 5 draft pick.

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:26 pm

War Wagon wrote:
Mississippi Neck wrote:
The best defensive rookie is DeMeco Ryans - Texans.

He's a very good LB already.
Hello?

Tamba Hali ring a bell?

At least he's not playing for a team considering how to fuck up their next top 5 draft pick.

Hello yourself. Look, I'm no Texan fan but I have had to endure most of their games and weekly analysis whilst living in the Houston market.

Ryans has 50 tackles, 13 assists, and 1.5 sacks. He's already the defensive leader for his team.
Its an individual award, not a team award.

Hali has 19 tackles, 9 assists, and 3.5 sacks.

I haven't seen Hali that much this year. My guess is he has not had the impact that Ryans has had. Pick who you want. Its not as clear cut as your asinine comments make it out to be.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:51 pm

Mississippi Neck wrote: Ryans has 50 tackles, 13 assists, and 1.5 sacks. He's already the defensive leader for his team.
Its an individual award, not a team award.

Hali has 19 tackles, 9 assists, and 3.5 sacks.

I haven't seen Hali that much this year. My guess is he has not had the impact that Ryans has had. Pick who you want. Its not as clear cut as your asinine comments make it out to be.

Beat me to it, Neck.

The numbers arent close. Not like actual facts have ever stopped Whitey from making a complete idiot of himself before. Excellent job once again, dumbfuck.

Bottom line: Hali doesnt belong in the conversation at this point in time.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:13 am

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
Raydah James wrote:
Mississippi Neck wrote: Ryans has 50 tackles, 13 assists, and 1.5 sacks. He's already the defensive leader for his team.
Its an individual award, not a team award.

Hali has 19 tackles, 9 assists, and 3.5 sacks.

I haven't seen Hali that much this year. My guess is he has not had the impact that Ryans has had. Pick who you want. Its not as clear cut as your asinine comments make it out to be.
Beat me to it, Neck.

The numbers arent close. Not like actual facts have ever stopped Whitey from making a complete idiot of himself before. Excellent job once again, dumbfuck.

Bottom line: Hali doesnt belong in the conversation at this point in time.
Cool....I get to kill two birds with one stone here.

After looking up both players' stat lines, seems to me that MN left out the THREE FORCED FUMBLES that Tamba Hali has managed to do so far. And NOPE, absolutely NO FFs for your boy Ryans.

The REAL bottom line: arguments can be made for BOTH players to be potential ROY candidates, but Tamba Hali ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY belongs in the conversation.

Eat a dick, Lames.

It seems that I owe you a chocodile shot en route to you eating yourself into a coma, you fat slut.

How unfortunate.

Good call.

Hali isnt the leader that Ryans is for his defense. That is not up for fucking debate.

TenTallBen · Post by **TenTallBen** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:03 am

See You Next Wednesday wrote:the best rookie does play for the Saints.

Yep. Rack Colston.

http://neworleanssaints.com/newsroomart ... cleid=3037

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:55 pm

Can't argue with the Ryan's pick...leading all defensive rookies in tackles. Gotta give a little love to a Lions' first round pick that wasn't a total flop...just behind Ryans in tackles.

I think Colston is the logical choice right now since none of the running backs have really seperated themselves from the pack...Addai, Maroney and Washington have similar stats up to this point.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:43 pm

Shoalzie wrote:Can't argue with the Ryan's pick...leading all defensive rookies in tackles. Gotta give a little love to a Lions' first round pick that wasn't a total flop...just behind Ryans in tackles.

I think Colston is the logical choice right now since none of the running backs have really seperated themselves from the pack...Addai, Maroney and Washington have similar stats up to this point.

Since Colston has 6 TDs with almost 600 yards receiving.. I won't argue that..

and I concur with Ryans as the defensive rookie standout.

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:38 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
Raydah James wrote:
Mississippi Neck wrote: Ryans has 50 tackles, 13 assists, and 1.5 sacks. He's already the defensive leader for his team.
Its an individual award, not a team award.

Hali has 19 tackles, 9 assists, and 3.5 sacks.

I haven't seen Hali that much this year. My guess is he has not had the impact that Ryans has had. Pick who you want. Its not as clear cut as your asinine comments make it out to be.
Beat me to it, Neck.

The numbers arent close. Not like actual facts have ever stopped Whitey from making a complete idiot of himself before. Excellent job once again, dumbfuck.

Bottom line: Hali doesnt belong in the conversation at this point in time.
Cool....I get to kill two birds with one stone here.

After looking up both players' stat lines, seems to me that MN left out the THREE FORCED FUMBLES that Tamba Hali has managed to do so far. And NOPE, absolutely NO FFs for your boy Ryans.

The REAL bottom line: arguments can be made for BOTH players to be potential ROY candidates, but Tamba Hali ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY belongs in the conversation.

Eat a dick, Lames.

KCP,

Hali isnt even the best rookie DE so far this year. Mark Anderson of the Bears has 7.5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles to date.

You can keep Hali in the conversation all you want. But to date, he aint the one. Sorry. 9 games left to go though...

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:45 am

See You Next Wednesday wrote: Patrick countered, half-heartedly, with Reggie Bush.

Who the fuk is Reggie Bush?

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Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:33 am

Colston comes another step closer to locking the award up with an 11 catch, 123 yards, 1 TD effort today. There is no other rookie making the same impact he is making. Bush might make one or two highlight reel plays but Colston is clearly having the better season. Even though he comes from that football 'hot bed' known as Hofstra, give the guy the credit he deserves. He's not the household name or the former big name college star, he's only been the best offensive rookie this year...nobody can possibly make an argument for another guy right now.

rozy · Post by **rozy** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:56 am

I guess we can lay this baby to rest now.

Sin,
DeMeco "Defensive POTW" Ryans

TenTallBen · Post by **TenTallBen** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:04 am

rozy wrote:I guess we can lay this baby to rest now.

Sin,
DeMeco "Defensive POTW" Ryans

Colston had it. Too bad he got hurt. Maybe he can make a run in the last few games but who knows if he'll be healthy....

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:30 am

rozy wrote:I guess we can lay this baby to rest now.

Sin,
DeMeco "Defensive POTW" Ryans

Kind of funny to think that if the Texans would be boasting the defensive rookie of the year and his name wasn't Mario Williams. Great numbers for Ryans...hard to argue with him as being the favorite with a few weeks to go. Another rookie out of Alabama, Mark Anderson with the Bears, is having a strong year as well...8 sacks as a non-starter.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:02 am

Anderson is probably going to have to have a bigger role on the Bears now that Tommy Harris is done for the rest of the season...

Cosmo Kramer · Post by **Cosmo Kramer** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:12 am

A.J Hawk looks pretty solid.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:51 am

By the end of the year the only logical choice will be Vince Young. He is getting better and better with every game. He has more rushing yards than Reggie Bush and has already set two NFL records.

TenTallBen · Post by **TenTallBen** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:00 am

Vito Corleone wrote:By the end of the year the only logical choice will be Vince Young.

I'll bet money against that.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:12 am

Jay Cutler......

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:55 pm

OFF
1Colston
2Maroney
3 Football Jesus

DEF
1Ryans
2Hali
3Anderson

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:59 pm

Here's my vote, moved right in at one of the hardest positions in all of football. Rookie right tacle, 6'8" 336 lbs. Marcus McNeill has allowed exactly NO sacks in his rookie year...case closed!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:24 pm

ChargerMike wrote:Here's my vote, moved right in at one of the hardest positions in all of football. Rookie right tacle, 6'8" 336 lbs. Marcus McNeill has allowed exactly NO sacks in his rookie year...case closed!

RACK. McNeill is a freakin' monster.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:35 pm

ChargerMike wrote:Here's my vote, moved right in at one of the hardest positions in all of football. Rookie right tacle, 6'8" 336 lbs. Marcus McNeill has allowed exactly NO sacks in his rookie year...case closed!

you mean this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeYCshefoxY

I think the fact that he continues plays long after the whistle sounds should probably disqualify him.......

he is big......

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:39 pm

Felix wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:Here's my vote, moved right in at one of the hardest positions in all of football. Rookie right tacle, 6'8" 336 lbs. Marcus McNeill has allowed exactly NO sacks in his rookie year...case closed!
you mean this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeYCshefoxY

I think the fact that he continues plays long after the whistle sounds should probably disqualify him.......

he is big......

...yea, that's him..that's the guy!..... classic find jim.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:44 pm

Didn't see him going for the Donk's knees at least.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:54 pm

Mikey wrote:Didn't see him going for the Donk's knees at least.

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:42 pm

ChargerMike wrote:Here's my vote, moved right in at one of the hardest positions in all of football. Rookie right tacle, 6'8" 336 lbs. Marcus McNeill has allowed exactly NO sacks in his rookie year...case closed!

He's a left tackle.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:49 pm

Mississippi Neck wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:Here's my vote, moved right in at one of the hardest positions in all of football. Rookie right tacle, 6'8" 336 lbs. Marcus McNeill has allowed exactly NO sacks in his rookie year...case closed!
He's a left tackle.

exactly... )*&%^)_%^@*&(

..damnit Neck, you know what I meant...I knew what I meant!

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:51 pm

yea, just messing witcha. He's an excellent rookie lineman.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:52 pm

Mississippi Neck wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:Here's my vote, moved right in at one of the hardest positions in all of football. Rookie right tacle, 6'8" 336 lbs. Marcus McNeill has allowed exactly NO sacks in his rookie year...case closed!
He's a left tackle.

You're right about that. And LT loves to run behind him...

LT through 12 games:

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:57 am

Demeco Ryans - Defensive Rookie of the Year ...uh huh

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