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This mornin' the OL is watching that horrible show and Regis a domer alum starts carrying on about how USC always looks like shit after the ND game because the whole USC/ND rivalry is so big that it wipes them out. He says he's seen it happen repeatedly over the last 50 years.

I gotta call bullshit. Yeah, USC/ND is huge, but, to SC, it is no bigger than the UCLA game. I get teams having a letdown in hoops or baseball where they play 2-3 times a wek, but, not football. They had plenty of time to get up again for the bruins.

I think this is just another case of domer myopia.

smackaholic wrote:I think this is just another case of domer myopia.

Domers myopic........NO WAY

don't know. I listened to his SC comments, took a look at his 'lil kathy lee clone (eat sumpin', bitch and buy you some titties, you can afford it) and got the hell outta the room.

Smackaholic, I think I gotta disagree with you about ND vs UCLA. At this point I'm pretty sure USC considers ND to be the bigger game. UCLA is a conference team and their cross town rival so UCLA has those things going for them but most of the time ND poses much more of a threat and it's always a game played on the national stage.

UCLA is usually a foregone conclusion. ND still owns the series lead.

All that being said, USC blew it. Completely.

Oh, and Regis is a stale old fruit.

Van wrote:Smackaholic, I think I gotta disagree with you about ND vs UCLA. At this point I'm pretty sure USC considers ND to be the bigger game. UCLA is a conference team and their cross town rival so UCLA has those things going for them but most of the time ND poses much more of a threat and it's always a game played on the national stage.

on the national stage, no doubt, the ND game is bigger, but, are you telling me that on campus and in the locker room, UCLA isn't just as big?

UCLA is usually a foregone conclusion. ND still owns the series lead.

yeah, so..

All that being said, USC blew it. Completely.

musta been domer fatigue syndrome, then...

Oh, and Regis is a stale old fruit.

no arguement there.

Yeah, I think I'd have to say that on campus and especially in the locker room ND is still the bigger game for USC. This all depends of course on how ND and UCLA are doing in any given season but since ND is normally better than UCLA I'd have to say that the majority of the time the ND game is bigger.

Even recently, with USC carrying a seven game winning streak against UCLA and a five game winning streak against ND, it still seemed pretty apparent that the ND game was the one causing the most concern. It's just usually a bigger deal to beat ND than it is to beat UCLA.

I'll take this one step further...

Let's say USC had beaten UCLA this year. Had that happened I think it's fair to say that it's very possible that Cal would've supplanted UCLA as USC's biggest Pac 10 rival...at least for the time being. There sure seems to be more bad blood with Cal right now and Cal's been more of a threat in recent years.

So, good for UCLA. They managed to restore a little bit of lost luster to the rivalry.

Van wrote: it still seemed pretty apparent that the ND game was the one causing the most concern.

Not sure who you've been talking to. Most of the people I know that follow the program with similar energy always had UCLA circled as the toughest game in our final four. It's obvious that Carroll felt the same way, if you watch the way he worked the media both weeks. UCLA had a better matchup against us than ND this year - I don't know many people that saw it the other way around.

No way Kal ever replaces UCLA. They will be a flash in the pan.

Meds, the betting spread was much closer for the ND game than for the UCLA game. ND was ranked #6. They only had one loss, to a very good Michigan team. Charlie Weis had never lost a road game as ND's coach. ND still retained (delusional) thoughts of BCS granduer. USC's home winning streak was on the line and they'd just come off the highly emotional Cal game.

Lotta history there with ND too, obviously, especially in light of last year's "Game For The Ages"...

UCLA? They were not only circling the drain, they were already well on their way down towards the L.A. River. The main question there was who would be Duhrell's replacement?

I didn't see anybody anywhere sweating the UCLA game. Yeah, we all knew we'd better not put the cart before the horse as far as the Ohio St match up. We all preached caution, knowing we still had one more game in which we had to take care of business.

"Why don't we just go ahead and play the UCLA game before we worry about Ohio St..."

Yeah, we were all saying the right things.

That being said, nobody thought we'd actually lose to UCLA, not after the season we'd had. Nobody thought it was all that "big" of a game; certainly not like the ND game. I think the best proof possible of this was on display right there on the field. USC came out lights out intense and fired up for ND.

How'd they come out against UCLA? Flatter than the squeaky clean bottom of Miss C's five gallon tub of Ben & Jerry's, that's how.

UCLA definitely earned that win but make no mistake, they didn't face USC's best effort. USC definitely took them for granted in a way they certainly didn't with ND. USC treated ND like a huge game. USC treated the UCLA game like, well, a game against Oregon St.

No way Kal ever replaces UCLA. They will be a flash in the pan.

Agreed, but for the last three years I think it's fair to say that the Cal series has been more emotional than the UCLA series. This year's game, there was no doubt which one USC approached with more intensity.

I'd say most of it has, yeah, at least from USC's side anyway. It's pretty obvious that USC didn't prioritize UCLA and take them seriously they way they did Cal and especially ND.

I guess that's what happens when you beat somebody like a drum every year to the average tune of 55-2. Eventually you lose your hatred for them.

I know I have. I don't loathe UCLA nearly as much now as I used to back when it was a real rivalry. More than anything now I simply find myself feeling sorry for UCLA.

Pity, basically.

They just goat raped our season though, so fuck 'em. It's now officially time to resume hating them.

Van wrote:It's just usually a bigger deal to beat ND than it is to beat UCLA.

Maybe, but that doesn't make Philbin any less of a clueless douche.

I don't think one is greater than the other. Both are great rivalries on their own merits. You've got the storied tradition of ND and USC, arguably perhaps the two most prestigious schools in CF. Then you have a crosstown rivalry in SC and UCLA which divides all of SoCal. Many of the players have faced each other or even played with them in high school or Pop Warner. Familiarity breeds contempt.

USC-UCLA used to be MUCH better though back when:

-UCLA was usually competitive

-Both teams called the Coliseum home and USC-UCLA was unique in all of football with the way both teams wore their home unis and the 100,000+ seat stadium (back then) was packed to the rafters and split right down the middle between the fans and bands of both teams. The night games in particular used to be.....bad..ass.

Closest thing in my life to ever remind me of how I always pictured the glory of ancient Rome.

To this day it still just plain looks wrong to me to see either team wearing their road whites when the two get together, and the games at the Rose Bowl in particular just look really weird. The series no longer has that former Hatfields vs McCoys feel to it. The red vs the blue, those two iconic unis going at each other like pissed off blood cells inside that equally iconic grand old stadium in Exposition Park, that was some great shit.

Great shit no doubt. I miss those annual Coliseum duels.

I say that even though they're now playing in separate stadiums, fuck it, I don't care. For that one game each year, either stadium, we go back to both teams wearing their home unis.

Believe the Heupel wrote:

smackaholic wrote:don't know. I listened to his SC comments, took a look at his 'lil kathy lee clone (eat sumpin', bitch and buy you some titties, you can afford it) and got the hell outta the room.

So, let me get this straight:

You woke up, watched this guy for a while:



Then bailed as soon as this girl showed up:



Hmmmm.

You have to remember that fagaholic’s favorite TV show ever is “American Idol”. And I see nothing wrong with her titties, other than the fact that they’re all covered up.