minorthreat........FUCK IOWA STATE!

[TheJON]

I'm calling my shot......

Iowa 68
Ames Community College 60


Too bad this game can't be played later in the year because I think both of these teams are gonna be really good by late January. Probably won't be good enough for either to make the tourney, but I guarantee you Big-10 and Big-12 teams won't wanna face these teams late in the season. But next year......both will be Top 15 teams and you can mark it down.

Haluska is going for 25 tonight......guaranteed.

[King Crimson]

reset: jon predicted that Iowa, ISU, and Northern Iowa would all make the sweet 16 last year.

ISU is terrible, they lost to Drake.

so, here's Jon running his mouth.....

[Mook]

Too bad this game can't be played later in the year because I think both of these teams are gonna be really good by late January. but I guarantee you Big-10 and Big-12 teams won't wanna face these teams late in the season. But next year......both will be Top 15 teams and you can mark it down.

Hee, hee

[indyfrisco]

I'll mark it down right next to this...

0-7

[minorthreat]

I'll take the loss to Iowa this season....and to Drake...and to UNI. As soon as McDermott gets the ball rolling in Ames, they will be few and far between. Especially with Steve Awful at the helm for Iowa. The only thing I am looking for out of the B-Ball team is improvement from the beginning to end. Will they challenge for the Big 12 title this year or next? No. But McDermott is a geat coach and has already shown he can recruit. The future is bright at ISU.

Can Iowa say that?

[TheJON]

Steve "Awful" has a winning record in his career against ISU and is 5-3 in the last 8 games against the Clones. This is why I love Clone fans......they're beyond delusional. McDermott hasn't proven jack shit. Until he wins games at the major college level, he hasn't won anything. Remember, minorthreat, Alford led an MVC team to the Sweet 16 the year before coming to Iowa. Of course McDermott's bringing in a good class......everyone does their first year at a new school. Alford did it too. Clone fans keep telling me how they love it that Alford or "Alfraud" is at Iowa, but they fail to realize he has been bitch slapping the Clones quite often.

And Alford's been recruiting too. Tyler Smith is the best player this state has seen since Marcus Fizer. Justin Johnson, Cyrus Tate, Tony Freeman, etc..... all good young players.

And on top of that, we dominated the Clones last night!

Hawkeye state beeyotch!

[the_ouskull]

Doesn't Jan's little infatuation with Iowa State seem a little contrived? I mean, dude, is it one of those things where, if YOU believe it, it will become important to others? I mean, if you want to talk shit, talk shit to Duke or Florida or someone... but Iowa State? Blatantly ripping off Chris Rock, "that's like calling a retarded kid for double-dribble."

Speaking of, at the gym today, I was shooting around with a few guys roughly my age, but at the other end of the court we saw a guy who looked at LEAST H.S. age shooting around and playing a game with a bunch of kids who couldn't have been any older than 10 or 11. My buddy said, "do you think maybe that kid's L.D. or something, to be playing with all of those little kids?" I mean, the guy was taking it pretty seriously too...

Anyway, when they stop playing he walks by us... motherfucker had a tattoo... So I'm assuming at LEAST 18, and playing against, solely to dominate, a bunch of 11 year olds... or younger. How lame is that shit...?

the_ouskull

[Adelpiero]

the state of iowa is owned by Northern Iowa


read it and weap jon, ya hairlipped cunt.




NIU ownz the state

[minorthreat]

the state of iowa is owned by Northern Iowa


read it and weap jon, ya hairlipped cunt.




NIU ownz the state

Agreed. The funny thing is to hear how JON is now back on the Awful bandwagon. If I remember right....he wasn't last year. JON, Iowa beat a bad, inexperienced Cyclone team. Almost every Hawk fan wanted McDermott to come to Iowa and were pissed when ISU jumped on the hire. He has coached 9 games so far. Lets see how he does a few years down the road. Maybe in that time, Jacobson will be ready to leave UNI and Iowa can finally get a coach.

[TheJON]

That's exactly my point, minor...... Give him time BEFORE annointing him the next John Wooden. I'm not saying Mac will be a flop, I'm saying that Clone fans always get way ahead of themselves. I have talked with Clone fans that seriously believe Gene Chizik is the guy to lead the Clones to the promise land. Same with McDermott. Don't get me wrong, back before Pollard hired Chizik I had said to some people that if ISU could somehow land Chizik it would be a great hire. But dude's never coached a game as a head coach. Let's see what he can do as a major college head coach before claiming he's great (same with McDermott).

And I did not want McDermott. If Alford left, I would have preferred going after a major college assistant coach (or NBA assistant). Why would we go after another MVC coach when we just had one? I like Alford. I was not anti-Alford last year, that was 2 years ago. But he's really improving as a coach both recruiting and as a game coach, plus he's got a good coaching staff for once. I may be the only Iowa fan that doesn't want him fired, but that's because nobody can let bygones be bygones.

And Skull.....

That is the lamest shit you've ever typed. Give me a fucking break. Because ISU is not Duke you can't talk shit about them? If that's the case, let's just change the name of the board to "Only Top 5 Program Smack Talk." ISU is the rival of the team I root for. Just like Texas is the rival of the team you root for.......and might I add, your obsession with Texas is much more than mine with the Clonies. Heck, I even addressed this thread to an ISU fan. If you have an ESPN mentality where you only care about the big name teams and don't wanna read about teams like Iowa or ISU, then fine, don't read it. Move on. No sweat off my sack. But all that does is show that you have a one track mind.


As for whoever said UNI owns the state.......bullshit. They are a fucking horrible team that Iowa completely dominated. It's called a FLUKE. Watch the game. The teams weren't even close. UNI is going to lose a lot of games this year. They can't shoot, can't defend that well, are undersized, and have no athleticism other than Eric Coleman. Anyone that watched the Iowa-UNI game knows if the teams played 100 times, Iowa would win 99 of them. We led by double digits the whole game and then handed it to them the last few minutes. Shit like that happens sometimes. Clearly, the better team won and if you don't wanna take my word for it, get a tape of the game and watch it. If you watch the game and think to yourself "UNI was clearly better, I'll let OUSKULL suck your dick.

[Adelpiero]

state of Iowa officially owned by:

[minorthreat]

That's exactly my point, minor...... Give him time BEFORE annointing him the next John Wooden. I'm not saying Mac will be a flop, I'm saying that Clone fans always get way ahead of themselves. I have talked with Clone fans that seriously believe Gene Chizik is the guy to lead the Clones to the promise land. Same with McDermott. Don't get me wrong, back before Pollard hired Chizik I had said to some people that if ISU could somehow land Chizik it would be a great hire. But dude's never coached a game as a head coach. Let's see what he can do as a major college head coach before claiming he's great (same with McDermott).

And I did not want McDermott. If Alford left, I would have preferred going after a major college assistant coach (or NBA assistant). Why would we go after another MVC coach when we just had one? I like Alford. I was not anti-Alford last year, that was 2 years ago. But he's really improving as a coach both recruiting and as a game coach, plus he's got a good coaching staff for once. I may be the only Iowa fan that doesn't want him fired, but that's because nobody can let bygones be bygones.

And Skull.....

That is the lamest shit you've ever typed. Give me a fucking break. Because ISU is not Duke you can't talk shit about them? If that's the case, let's just change the name of the board to "Only Top 5 Program Smack Talk." ISU is the rival of the team I root for. Just like Texas is the rival of the team you root for.......and might I add, your obsession with Texas is much more than mine with the Clonies. Heck, I even addressed this thread to an ISU fan. If you have an ESPN mentality where you only care about the big name teams and don't wanna read about teams like Iowa or ISU, then fine, don't read it. Move on. No sweat off my sack. But all that does is show that you have a one track mind.


As for whoever said UNI owns the state.......bullshit. They are a fucking horrible team that Iowa completely dominated. It's called a FLUKE. Watch the game. The teams weren't even close. UNI is going to lose a lot of games this year. They can't shoot, can't defend that well, are undersized, and have no athleticism other than Eric Coleman. Anyone that watched the Iowa-UNI game knows if the teams played 100 times, Iowa would win 99 of them. We led by double digits the whole game and then handed it to them the last few minutes. Shit like that happens sometimes. Clearly, the better team won and if you don't wanna take my word for it, get a tape of the game and watch it. If you watch the game and think to yourself "UNI was clearly better, I'll let OUSKULL suck your dick.

All the Hawk fans I have talked to would have killed for McDermott. Major college assistant coach? NBA assistant? You have to be joking. Thank God he has started to improve after 7+ years. We both know his freshman will not get any better. Alford might just be the best Iowa can get. Sorry.

[minorthreat]

state of Iowa officially owned by:

Agreed.

[TheJON]

His freshman will never get better?? You kidding? Forget that first class where he got Sonderleiter, Reiner, Worley, Boyd, and Scott. Every other class he's gotten was filled with players that improved throughout their careers.

Are you trying to tell me Haluska hasn't improved since when he was at Iowa State??? He's gone from a guy scoring 9 PPG to a guy that will be challenging for an All-American spot. Horner and Brunner had max potential and they reached that potential. They improved DRASTICALLY from their freshman seasons. Erek Hansen did too. Tony Freeman, a current sophomore, has gotten much better since last season. Seth Gorney is slowly improving but he has limited ability. Heck, even JR Angle is getting better.

I realize it took Alford a while to get things figured out but dude was 34 years old when he took over the job. Young coaches almost always struggle early.

And what's wrong with hiring a top notch assistant? Indiana had an Orlando Magic assistant high on their list to replace Mike Davis. Craig Neal actually would have been my top choice. Nothing against McDermott, I just don't like going the mid-major route.

[minorthreat]

His freshman will never get better?? You kidding? Forget that first class where he got Sonderleiter, Reiner, Worley, Boyd, and Scott. Every other class he's gotten was filled with players that improved throughout their careers.

Are you trying to tell me Haluska hasn't improved since when he was at Iowa State??? He's gone from a guy scoring 9 PPG to a guy that will be challenging for an All-American spot. Horner and Brunner had max potential and they reached that potential. They improved DRASTICALLY from their freshman seasons. Erek Hansen did too. Tony Freeman, a current sophomore, has gotten much better since last season. Seth Gorney is slowly improving but he has limited ability. Heck, even JR Angle is getting better.

I realize it took Alford a while to get things figured out but dude was 34 years old when he took over the job. Young coaches almost always struggle early.

And what's wrong with hiring a top notch assistant? Indiana had an Orlando Magic assistant high on their list to replace Mike Davis. Craig Neal actually would have been my top choice. Nothing against McDermott, I just don't like going the mid-major route.

It's getting harder to understand you. Are you saying McDermott will be good or bad? In one sentence you tell the rest of the NCAA that both Iowa and ISU will be a team they will need to look out for later in the year and the next you come down on him. It looks to me like you think McD and Chizik would have been great hires for ISU......until they got them. Sounds to me like someone is just bitter.
I'm pretty sure you'd still be asking for Alfords head had they lost to ISU.

Typical Iowa fan.

[TheJON]

No, you're completely off base.

I do think ISU got a solid coach in McDermott. He's a decent hire, but to say that the guy is destined to lead ISU to greatness is a little premature. I'm not saying he can't do it, in fact I think he can, but let's wait and see. This is the Big-12 now. There's no Drake's, Indiana State, and Evansville's. It's a conference that actually has NBA talent in it, unlike the Mo Valley. So let's wait and see how he does coaching in a major conference before we claim he's a great coach.

As for Chizik, it was a slam dunk hire for Pollard. I'll give him props on that. Like it or not, ISU has a terrible football program and don't spend a lot of money on the program compared to other major conference schools. So to go out and get a defensive coordinator from Texas is a great pickup for them. I never would have thought he could pull this hire off. But if I were an ISU fan, I'd be cautiously optimistic. Recruiting players to Texas is not the same as recruiting to Iowa State and let's remember that he's never been a head coach. So there is no guarantee. But, that said, I do think this is a gamble Pollard had to take. And I commend him for that. I'll never blame Bowlsby for hiring Alford even though maybe it hasn't gone as planned......he had to take that gamble. And, regardless of whether or not Chizik pans out, I will not rip on Pollard for taking that gamble. But do I think Pollard is going to raise that $135 million he wants to? Fuck no. Clone fans are poor!

[minorthreat]

No, you're completely off base.

I do think ISU got a solid coach in McDermott. He's a decent hire, but to say that the guy is destined to lead ISU to greatness is a little premature. I'm not saying he can't do it, in fact I think he can, but let's wait and see. This is the Big-12 now. There's no Drake's, Indiana State, and Evansville's. It's a conference that actually has NBA talent in it, unlike the Mo Valley. So let's wait and see how he does coaching in a major conference before we claim he's a great coach.

As for Chizik, it was a slam dunk hire for Pollard. I'll give him props on that. Like it or not, ISU has a terrible football program and don't spend a lot of money on the program compared to other major conference schools. So to go out and get a defensive coordinator from Texas is a great pickup for them. I never would have thought he could pull this hire off. But if I were an ISU fan, I'd be cautiously optimistic. Recruiting players to Texas is not the same as recruiting to Iowa State and let's remember that he's never been a head coach. So there is no guarantee. But, that said, I do think this is a gamble Pollard had to take. And I commend him for that. I'll never blame Bowlsby for hiring Alford even though maybe it hasn't gone as planned......he had to take that gamble. And, regardless of whether or not Chizik pans out, I will not rip on Pollard for taking that gamble. But do I think Pollard is going to raise that $135 million he wants to? Fuck no. Clone fans are poor!

No shit? Recruiting to Texas is different than recruiting to ISU? Recruiting to Nebraska is different than recruiting to Texas. Recruiting to Michigan is different than recruiting to Texas. I've never said Chizik will take ISU to a National Championship and I don't think many ISU fans are saying it either. The whole thing boils down to this: ISU fans are optimistic. You hate this. You say if you were a Cyclone fan you would be cautiously optimistic? Didn't you have Iowa picked to contend for a National Title this year? Tate a Heisman candidate? Take your medicine, JON.

ISU fans know where the Clones sit within college football, mediocre. They want more. Shouldn't they? I honestly think it bothers you that the athletic dept. is taking steps to just that. Cyclone fans poor? You do know that ISU is a pretty good engineering school, right?

Pollard will raise the $$$, the coaches will be just fine, and you will still be on the corner, sucking cock for bus fare and walking home.

[minorthreat]

JON, you guys should have kept Dr. Tom.

[TheJON]

See, this is what I don't understand....

How has McDermott proven to be a better coach than Alford? Let's go back 7 years when Alford took the Iowa job. Alford in 1999 is very similar to McDermott in 2006. They both come in from success in the MVC, and both are young coaches. Before saying Mac is a better coach, let's see what he does in the Big-12.

As for Dr. Tom..........

If he never coached another game at Iowa, I'd be happy. Nice guy, average coach. Nothing more, nothing less. He's a pussy. Flat out. He even admits he doesn't want to play good teams in the non-conference. Got little respect for coaches like that. Say what you want about Alford, but he won't back down from a challenge. Davis is a puss. Always has been. His system at Iowa was a joke and his record was misleading. 20 wins a year with an RPI of about 60 because he almost never got quality wins. His teams constantly got their asses kicked by the top teams in the Big-10. He would press more athletic teams like Michigan State and they'd run layup drills against us. We had 6'2 power forwards, we ran a retarded shot pass that never worked, and we couldn't guard the perimeter for shit. He freeloaded off Geroge Raveling's players his first couple years, but after those guys were gone, the guy didn't do jack shit. He couldn't recruit, couldn't beat anyone good, and had no balls. The only reason people think he is a good coach is because he's a nice guy and it's impossible to not like the guy.

[TheJON]

I'm not gonna argue who the better coach is, but I will say this.......Iowa has more potential with Alford than Davis. I realize potential only gets you so far, but at least there is hope. With Davis we had no hope. We knew we were just going to be an average team. There was no roller coaster ride. Oh sure, the Alford roller-coaster might make you wanna vomit sometimes, but at least there is potential for having seasons like last year. Last years team would donkey punch any teams Davis ever had after he quit freeloading off George Raveling's players.

And I'm never going to give Davis credit for making a lot of NCAA tournaments because that was all bullshit. We played 12 Schools For the Blind and Iowa State every year in the non-conference. Then he'd rack up 2 wins over Northwestern, 1 win at home against Minnesota, 2 wins over Penn State, 1-2 wins over quality Big-10 teams, and a few more wins over whatever other teams happened to suck balls that year. That's how we got to the tournament. That's weak. And, might I add, Dr Tom didn't get us to the tourney every year like many Iowa fans seem to think. 9 out of 13 does not = 100%.

All I'm saying is be a little patient with this team. We suck this year because we have no experience but there is a great recruiting class coming in 2008 and next year is shaping up to be a very good season. Patience is a virtue, Mace.

[minorthreat]

All I'm saying is be a little patient with this team. We suck this year because we have no experience but there is a great recruiting class coming in 2008 and next year is shaping up to be a very good season. Patience is a virtue, Mace.

Steve?

[TheJON]

Shit, you found me out! All I'm saying is Steve Alford......I mean, I am doing a great job (keep forgetting to not speak in the 3rd person). Do you think Pierre Pierce ass raping a couple of ladies was MY fault? It's not like I bent her over and told him to whip his dick out and pound her. And the fans need to quit blaming me for the Recker/Evans debacle. They're not team players. My boyfriend Bobby Knight couldn't even contain Recker. And so we've had a few bad conference records? The Big-10 is tough. It's not like we're losing to shitty teams. Afterall, I nearly have a winning record against Northwestern. How many coaches can say that? Certainly not more than 6,000 or so. And what about last year? Unbeaten at home. Big-10 champs. 3 seed in the NCAA tournament. 25 wins. How you like that? And my hair......look at my fucking hair, asshole. Sorry, didn't mean to use naughty words. That's not the good Christian way. I learned those words when I used to make love to Coach Knight. (Memo to God.....I apologize for my above language. Please forgive me). Back to my hair..... I've been at the University of Iowa for 8 years and not one strand has moved an inch. Could it possibly be anymore perfect? Name 1 single coach with better hair than me, Steve Alford!

And like me or not, but that does not matter. I have the University of Iowa's balls resting on my chin. That's why I keep getting contract extensions. In fact, I added a couple more years to my long-term deal this past offseason. I'll probably go .500 this year and convince Gary Barta to add another 5. Why? Because I'm Steve Alford. And whatever Steve Alford wants, Steve Alford gets. Everyone envies me. The Iowa fans......they obsess about me. I love it. And when they bitch about me on the message boards......what do I do? Go tell Barta to add another 3 years to my contract just to piss them off.