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U&L Survival Essentials
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:43 pm
by Mikey
Besides the usual stuff, like first aid kits, flashlights, matches, etc., what should one carry whether hiking Mt. Hood in a whiteout or getting lost on an unmaintained road in the Coastal Range? I'd like to know because if I ever happen to be in one of these situations I don't want to end up like the poor "out of staters" that stumbled into the strange and wonderful world of a U&L winter this week.
Re: U&L Survival Essentials
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:44 pm
by Smackie Chan
Mikey wrote:Besides the usual stuff, like first aid kits, flashlights, matches, etc., what should one carry whether hiking Mt. Hood in a whiteout or getting lost on an unmaintained road in the Coastal Range? I'd like to know because if I ever happen to be in one of these situations I don't want to end up like the poor "out of staters" that stumbled into the strange and wonderful world of a U&L winter this week.
I figgered you wanted to know in case Alex Trebek asks.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:45 pm
by Mikey
I would have asked it in the form of an answer.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:46 pm
by Mikey
I was thinking maybe some extra food, like energy bars or something, but anybody who's worth a shit should be able to catch a huge fresh chinook just about anywhere around there. Maybe you should carry a cedar plank to cook it on, just in case.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:52 pm
by Atomic Punk
Hiking right?
GPS or at least a compass
local terrain map
clothing suitable for those temperatures
appropriate boots
strobe light (easy for rescue aircraft to spot)
MRE's
plenty of water
sleeping bag rated for the temperatures
orange or bright colored tent
for starters...
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:53 pm
by Dasher
RUN PUPPET,
RUN!
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:58 pm
by Ken
Atomic Punk wrote:Hiking right?
GPS or at least a compass
local terrain map
clothing suitable for those temperatures
appropriate boots
strobe light (easy for rescue aircraft to spot)
MRE's
plenty of water
sleeping bag rated for the temperatures
orange or bright colored tent
for starters...
Is this where I put one of those
"Sin,
No fucking shit"
thingies?
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:00 pm
by Mikey
What about some good local microbrew?
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:07 pm
by Atomic Punk
Well, see the great advice of having the gear I've posted is that prior to hiking you plot the LAT/LONG of all of the local microbreweries into your GPS so that you can have that survival instinct and navigate towrd one.
Win Win.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:09 pm
by Milner
shit, I thought all those frickin' Oregonians drank was Olympia or some frickin' stuff like that, shit.
Re: U&L Survival Essentials
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:11 pm
by Mister Bushice
Mikey wrote:Besides the usual stuff, like first aid kits, flashlights, matches, etc., what should one carry whether hiking Mt. Hood in a whiteout or getting lost on an unmaintained road in the Coastal Range?
As soon as it's on the market, and if I was planning on Kimming it I'd buy the Dinsdale Talking Head Doll, provided it comes with a handy off switch and the ability to mute the "I told you so" and the "up here in the U & L we..." rants.
yo dog
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:11 pm
by Quad McWheels
if you're a guy who snapped his spine kicking some MAJOR ass on your HS football kickoff coverage unit, don't forget:
Extra battery for motorized wheelchair
Chains for tires
Someone who can fucking swap that shit out for you
Re: yo dog
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:13 pm
by Mister Bushice
Quad McWheels wrote:if you're a guy who snapped his spine kicking some MAJOR ass on your HS football kickoff coverage unit, don't forget:
Extra battery for motorized wheelchair
Chains for tires
Someone who can fucking swap that shit out for you
and for those of us having to read this shit, an icy cliff.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:17 pm
by Blitzen
A friendly deer with a glowing red nose worked pretty well a few years back.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:19 pm
by Yukon Cornelius
A good supply of peppermint!!
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:26 pm
by Mister Bushice
Blitzen wrote:A friendly deer
I call bullshit.
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:35 pm
by Cupid
Mister Bushice wrote:Blitzen wrote:A friendly deer
I call bullshit.
AP stealing your spotlight, Crash? Don't worry, there are still 13 days left until we kick and spin. Plenty of time to get your rectum prolapsed.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:29 am
by Derron
A brain instead of a heart for starters.
Sincerely,
The Tin Man
or how about this:
Just stay the fuck out of Oregon, if you intend to get lost and put a burden on our emergency services.
Come, spend your money and then fucking leave.
Sincerely,
Gov. Tom McCall.
( Noted Oregon Gov, drunk, hippie lover, bottle bill sponser)
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:22 am
by Atomic Punk
I clicked onto that link and watched it while thinking another government worker getting a paycheck for not knowing her ass other than when Homie taps it.. Might as well be a Korean internet guru if you buy into that clueless bullshit advice. I'll bet the AA/EO government infused worker has had extensive training to be able to stumble through that presentation. Wow!
I've heard there are at least a few books out there you can read to simplify the concept of basic survival.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:29 pm
by Wolfman
Roach is correct. Most of the folks who
get into problems did so because they looked
on a map for a short cut and ran into trouble.
Even on major highways, you can run off the road
like that couple did on I-95 recently. Back in CNY
folks there are aware of the risk of lake effect snow
where you can be driving along say I-81 with
blue skies and the next thing you know, you're in a
white out snow band.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:03 pm
by BSmack
Atomic Punk wrote:Well, see the great advice of having the gear I've posted is that prior to hiking you plot the LAT/LONG of all of the local microbreweries into your GPS so that you can have that survival instinct and navigate towrd one.
Win Win.
Obviously you're a Californian. Otherwise you would know that great microbrews can be picked from the trees any damn time we want them. Stay the hell out of our state.
-Dins
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:17 pm
by jiminphilly
A friend who knows someone about something who can get you something for half the price or even free.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:26 pm
by Trampis
Im not so sure asking Oregonians how to survive is such a good idea seeing how they cant even pump there own gas.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:45 pm
by Uncle Fester
Bring your banjo and a 30-pack of Hamm's.
At least you'll have happy tunes and a quality American macrobrew to quaff as you freeze to death.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:47 pm
by Tom In VA
Uncle Fester wrote:Bring your banjo and a 30-pack of Hamm's.
At least you'll have happy tunes and a quality American macrobrew to quaff as you freeze to death.
Tell me you're in marketting, if not, you should be. Hamm's would PAY you good money for those kind of ideas.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:57 pm
by Uncle Fester
No I'm not, but I'm willing to learn.
I'll be out of job at the end of the year.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:01 pm
by Trampis
Uncle Fester wrote:
I'll be out of job at the end of the year.
Tell those dweebs at the UN to go fuck themselves Mr Bolten.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:04 pm
by Tom In VA
Uncle Fester wrote:No I'm not, but I'm willing to learn.
I'll be out of job at the end of the year.
I'll write a letter. I never wanted a Hamm's before, I'm almost willing to give up four years on the wagon, to try a Hamm's.
Something about your writing.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:04 pm
by Dinsdale
Good things to have --
An appropriate vehicle for where you're going.
4 chains for the vehicle.
A winch or come-along with plenty of rope.
Topo map, and a compass never hurts to go along with it. Give me a compass, a topo, and any sort of visibility, and I'll never be lost. Ain't rocket science.
You know...pretty much all the stuff I listed in the other thread...duh.
But leave it to you green horns to not figure it out...don't go anywhere where your chances of becoming stranded are extremely high.
Sure, I've done it...and paid for it. But I didn't bring infants along for the ride, so it didn't result in nearly the drama. Don't think I've ever gotten so fucked in the woods that I couldn't solve the problem on the same day, or within 12-18 hours at least. A lot of it revolves not being a city-slicker pussy.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:06 pm
by 420
Uncle Fester wrote:No I'm not, but I'm willing to learn.
I'll be out of job at the end of the year.
I'm looking for an apprentice.
Do you like to drink a bunch, and pretend to work?
If you feel you can fill the above qualifications... you may be our guy in the Minnesota division.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:11 pm
by Uncle Fester
420 wrote:Uncle Fester wrote:No I'm not, but I'm willing to learn.
I'll be out of job at the end of the year.
I'm looking for an apprentice.
Do you like to drink a bunch, and pretend to work?
If you feel you can fill the above qualifications... you may be our guy in the Minnesota division.
IN. We could do a T1B interview. I've got Goobs down as one of my references.
And Tom, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-caPGOSBINU
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:40 pm
by Dinsdale
And as far as the dumass Texans/NYer -- they're fucked, unless they're found in the next couple of hours...and since dude's ice cave was thought to be at 11,000 feet, and rescuers didn't figure they'd get above about 7-8000 today...
Sorry.
But there's allegedly a really nastyass storm coming, which will make the weather of the last few days seem like child's play on the hill. If we're supposed to get up to 70MPH winds here in the lowlands, and a big mess of rain, it's not a good time to be outdoors on the mountain, even in civilization.
And since you guys brought it up...there's a bitching microbrewery right on Mt Hood...Mt Hood Brewing, as a matter of fact. I might even be sporting some of their gear as I type. Add 4500 feet of elevation to some 8.0% ABV suds...yeah, buddy. Got way liquored up at that place a couple of months ago...and naturally went home with the only single chicks in Government Camp that day.
100+MPH winds coming to the coast tonight-btw. That'll be the third time so far this season. Where's all of our free shit, FEMA? Buncha pussies Down South.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:44 pm
by YD
my bbq blew off my porch and down a big rock wall this week, the wind was howlin so bad.
I liked that bbq. I'll miss it. Its toast
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:33 am
by jtr
Mikey wrote:What about some good local microbrew?
Say mikey you're a physics kind of guy who I could ask a random question to and not get totally smacked right?
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:20 am
by Mikey
jtr wrote:Mikey wrote:What about some good local microbrew?
Say mikey you're a physics kind of guy who I could ask a random question to and not get totally smacked right?
That depends on the question.
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:55 am
by jtr
mine has to do with light years and the speed of light.
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:15 pm
by Ingse Bodil
jtr wrote:mine has to do with light years and the speed of light.
that reminds me... on some elegant universe type show they were doing black holes, and now they say that black holes don't just suck everything in that crosses the event horizon with no hope of return, they had pictures of black holes geysering intense amounts of energy (? matter? or something). I knew what goes in had to find a way to come out, but that was incredible the picture (theory?) drawn.
The pull of a black hole is incredibly immense; but how much more intense must the spew of a black hole be, to counter it's own pull? what happens to all of that regurgitated matter? and (this is where it dovetails with jess' pre-question) if the black hole captures all light, does the spew of the black hole contain the secret to travel beyond the speed of light?
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:20 pm
by Smackie Chan
Ingse Bodil wrote:but how much more intense must the spew of a black hole be
Softball, anyone?
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:07 pm
by Derron
Dinsdale wrote:.and naturally went home with the only single chicks in Government Camp that day.
And what a fine bunch of good looking St. Bernard rescue dogs they were, and so frisky.....
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:09 pm
by PSUFAN
Smackie Chan wrote:Ingse Bodil wrote:but how much more intense must the spew of a black hole be
Softball, anyone?
It's like whacking a 300lb marshmallow.